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I’m firmly in the ‘yes nuno’ camp.
Our players seem to do better under a gentle father figure type rather than these neurotic primadona sorts.
Our players seem to do better under a gentle father figure type rather than these neurotic primadona sorts.
TBF, Southgate always gets ripped to pieces re his formation and selections.
Not sure I follow?
Yeah I did a lot of ridiculing. All the hearts cunts I know said he was a clever guy, total football nerd stat moneyball type. He was a fucking terrible manager but apparently a decent coach
I think my point is, despite his stellar name and reputation, there is absolutely no guarantee of success.
So what are you willing to sacrifice in chasing it?
At a time when finances are precarious, to say the least, should we go balls out backing one guy in the hope it works? (should we ever?)
Should we really gut our entire back room, hire all Contes mates, and be bound into him/them? What happens when its time to move on - could we even afford to sack him at that point? (in both compensation, but also - "oh fuck we need a new medical/scouting/fitness department" too).
All on a guy that is combustable in nature and proven to walk away from a club if it suits him (or doesnt, depending on your POV).
What happens after a year, when youve leveraged yourself to the eye balls for £150m spent, and he demands more and more the following year?
We arent backed by oil money, we are self sufficient (like it or not) and we do need to tread carefully.
Mourinho was supposed to be a sure thing, remember all the "Ill put up with the shit football because at least we'll win something" talk? How did that go?
Id have loved Conte to come in, but more on our terms than his (ideally some compromise found). In so much as, we have limitations to operate within - largely to protect the clubs longevity - and if he came in knowing this, that would have been really exciting. A bit like Mourinho, the chance to prove his nous with lesser resources, really cement his reputation and legacy.
That we werent able to agree a deal is as much on him as it is us, yet everyone seems to think "Just back him and give him what he wants" - reckless at best.
There is no version of events where Id choose Nuno over Conte, but if the choice was between Coach and DoF working in tandem (with a remit for attacking football) or a Crazy genius likely to last only a season or two, as much fun as the latter sounds Id have to go with the one that actually has some structure and vision to it.
I realise the vision bit is somewhat weak here, but hoping that regardless of how we arrived here itll be the way we work from here on.
It’s happened with Utd assistant coaches too, who were great under SAF, but failed when they took the step up.
Thierry Henry is probably the most high profile case.
Very highly regarded as an assistant under Martinez, but both his spells as head coach at club level were at best "okay".
i couldn’t agree with you more.
Crystal Palace got a more exciting manager
But Nuno coaching them might be a bit premature don't you think ?
Ian Cathro
| Personal information | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Club information | |||
| Youth career | |||
| Teams managed | |||
 Cathro with Newcastle United in 2015 | |||
| Date of birth | 11 July 1986 (age 34)[1] | ||
| Place of birth | Dundee, Scotland | ||
| Current team | Tottenham Hotspur (assistant) | ||
| Team | |||
| Forfar Athletic | |||
| Brechin City | |||
| Years | Team | ||
| 2008–2012 | Dundee United (youth coach) | ||
| 2012–2014 | Rio Ave (assistant) | ||
| 2014–2015 | Valencia (assistant) | ||
| 2015–2016 | Newcastle United (assistant) | ||
| 2016–2017 | Heart of Midlothian | ||
| 2018–2021 | Wolverhampton Wanderers (first-team coach) | ||
| 2021– | Tottenham Hotspur (assistant) |
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Playing career[edit]
Cathro played youth football for Forfar Athletic and Brechin City.[2]Coaching career[edit]
Youth coach[edit]
After working as a local youth coach in Dundee, Cathro became the head of Dundee United's youth academy at the age of 22.[3] During his time with Dundee United, he also worked for the Scottish Football Association's local youth programme.[3] Ryan Gauld has cited Cathro as one of the biggest influences on his career.[4][5]Assistant manager[edit]
In 2012, he became the assistant manager of Portuguese club Rio Ave.[3] In 2014, he followed Nuno, his manager at Rio Ave, to Spanish club Valencia, where he also became assistant manager.[1][6] The two had first met at an SFA coaching course in Scotland in 2009.[1][6] He resigned his Valencia post on 11 June 2015.[7]A fortnight later, he agreed to join Premier League side Newcastle United as assistant to Steve McClaren, the recently appointed manager.[8] When McClaren was sacked by Newcastle United in March 2016 and replaced by Rafa Benítez,[9] Cathro was thought highly enough of to be retained as assistant manager.[9]
Heart of Midlothian[edit]
Cathro was appointed head coach of Scottish Premiership club Heart of Midlothian on 5 December 2016.[10] The appointment caused some debate within Scottish football. Kilmarnock player Kris Boyd questioned whether such a young manager, with limited playing experience, could command the respect of the squad.[11] Hearts performed poorly in the second half of the 2016–17 season, winning 5 of 22 league games after Cathro was appointed.[12] They fell to fifth place in the league and were knocked out of the 2016–17 Scottish Cup by their Edinburgh derby rivals Hibernian.[12] After Hearts failed to qualify from the 2017–18 Scottish League Cup group stage,[13] Cathro was sacked.[12][14] Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers said that there appeared to be a "confused" approach at Hearts, with a mismatch between the style of play Cathro wanted to implement and the type of players signed by the club.[15][16] After Cathro left, Hearts interim manager Jon Daly and player Cole Stockton claimed that the physical training under Cathro had lacked intensity.[17]Wolves[edit]
After almost a year out of football, Cathro was appointed first-team coach at Wolverhampton Wanderers in June 2018, linking up again with Nuno, who Cathro worked with in Portugal and Spain.[18]Tottenham Hotspur[edit]
On 3 July 2021, Cathro followed former-Wolves manager Nuno to Tottenham Hotspur, after being appointed assistant head coach.[19]Managerial statistics[edit]
As of match played 29 July 2017References[edit]
- ^ Jump up to: a b c Alan Campbell (5 July 2014). "First the apprentice, now the master graduates". Herald Scotland. Retrieved 3 October 2014.
- ^ Richard Winton (3 October 2014). "From Dundee United to Valencia: The rapid rise of Ian Cathro". BBC Sport. Retrieved 3 October 2014.
- ^ Jump up to: a b c Moira Gordon (14 October 2012). "Interview: Coach Ian Cathro on why he left Scotland for Portugal". The Scotsman. Retrieved 3 October 2014.
- ^ Eric Nicholson (8 January 2015). "The rise and rise of Ian Cathro". The Courier. Archived from the original on 12 March 2016. Retrieved 11 March 2016.
- ^ Eric Nicholson (4 July 2014). "Ryan Gauld's Sporting Lisbon move opens doors for best mate John Souttar". The Courier. Archived from the original on 12 March 2016. Retrieved 11 March 2016.
- ^ Jump up to: a b Gavin Berry (6 September 2014). "Scotsman Cathro not content as assistant at Valencia – he wants to make mark in hot seat". Daily Record. Retrieved 3 October 2014.
- ^ "Valencia: Assistant manager Ian Cathro exits La Liga club". BBC Sport. 11 June 2015.
- ^ "Newcastle: Ian Cathro to be Steve McClaren's assistant manager". BBC Sport. 25 June 2015.
- ^ Jump up to: a b "Rafa Benitez explains why he kept Ian Cathro at Newcastle United". Chronicle Live. 12 March 2016.
- ^ "Newcastle: Cathro joins Hearts as head coach". Newcastle United FC. 5 December 2016.[permanent dead link]
- ^ https://www.scotsman.com/sport/foot...ris-boyd-was-right-about-ian-cathro-1-4519499
- ^ Jump up to: a b c "Hearts: Ian Cathro sacked as head coach after seven months in charge". BBC Sport. BBC. 1 August 2017. Retrieved 1 August 2017.
- ^ "Hearts: Ian Cathro appointment was mistake - Gary Mackay". BBC Sport. BBC. 31 July 2017. Retrieved 1 August 2017.
- ^ "Club Statement - Ian Cathro". Heart of Midlothian FC. 1 August 2017. Retrieved 1 August 2017.
- ^ "Celtic's Brendan Rodgers has empathy for Ian Cathro over Hearts sacking". BBC Sport. BBC. 4 August 2017. Retrieved 4 August2017.
- ^ McLaughlin, Chris (7 August 2017). "Chris McLaughlin's words of the weekend: Jon Daly slams Brendan Rodgers". BBC Sport. BBC. Retrieved 7 August 2017.
- ^ "Hearts: Cole Stockton questions methods of former head coach Ian Cathro". BBC Sport. BBC. 25 August 2017. Retrieved 25 August 2017.
- ^ "Ian Cathro: Ex-Hearts boss teams up with Wolves manager Nuno Espirito Santo". BBC Sport. 28 June 2018. Retrieved 29 June2018.
- ^ "First Team coaching staff update". www.tottenhamhotspur.com. 3 July 2021.
- ^ "Ian Cathro: Hearts announce new head coach". BBC Sport. 5 December 2016. Retrieved 16 March 2017.
- ^ "Managers: Ian Cathro". Soccerbase. Centurycomm. Retrieved 16 March 2017.
Yeah. Happens all the time at professional clubs.