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Player Pedro Porro

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So by logic, when we and you see other teams, boo and jeer the opposition when they have the bank, it’s because we want to rattle them, throw them off and force a mistake. We all know that’s the point, and we all celebrate when it works. If that’s the case, how on earth does aiming the same treatment at our own players do anything but harm us? Booing one of ours every time he touches the ball can only unsettle him and the team around him. The only person it benefits is the one doing the booing, because it lets them vent. It does nothing to help the side actually win a match.

Nobody is excusing the fact that three home wins is dreadful, but it’s worth asking why defeats keep happening. You can put some of it down to poor tactics, the manager getting things wrong, the level of the opposition or the players simply not being good enough. But once you get to the fifth, tenth defeat, you have to start looking at other common factors too, including the pressure and tense atmosphere they’re playing in.

Again, if people want to boo at the end of the match, fine. Come on here afterwards and let it all out. But during the game, maybe try something different for once. I can’t stand Liverpool fans, yet you can’t deny they turn Anfield into a place nobody enjoys playing in. Their constant sense of injustice and shouting at the referee works in their favour. Even when they weren’t as strong as us a few years ago, their home form stayed solid. You never hear them booing, even if they lose, whether you like them or not.
 
So by logic, when we and you see other teams, boo and jeer the opposition when they have the bank, it’s because we want to rattle them, throw them off and force a mistake. We all know that’s the point, and we all celebrate when it works. If that’s the case, how on earth does aiming the same treatment at our own players do anything but harm us? Booing one of ours every time he touches the ball can only unsettle him and the team around him. The only person it benefits is the one doing the booing, because it lets them vent. It does nothing to help the side actually win a match.

Nobody is excusing the fact that three home wins is dreadful, but it’s worth asking why defeats keep happening. You can put some of it down to poor tactics, the manager getting things wrong, the level of the opposition or the players simply not being good enough. But once you get to the fifth, tenth defeat, you have to start looking at other common factors too, including the pressure and tense atmosphere they’re playing in.

Again, if people want to boo at the end of the match, fine. Come on here afterwards and let it all out. But during the game, maybe try something different for once. I can’t stand Liverpool fans, yet you can’t deny they turn Anfield into a place nobody enjoys playing in. Their constant sense of injustice and shouting at the referee works in their favour. Even when they weren’t as strong as us a few years ago, their home form stayed solid. You never hear them booing, even if they lose, whether you like them or not.
Liverpool have lost 11 times in 5 years at home in the PL. Thats why you don’t hear their fans boo. They’ve also won it all in recent times lol.

What do you think of Porros tantrum both on the pitch and online after?
 
Also just amazing how thick and ignorant some of those players are :wall:
Do you THINK?

WHY ELSE was Tony Galvin merely a Trivia Question for years and treated like some kinda unique FREAK for having a Degree in Russian?

Why else was Graeme Le Saux derided (and even had his sexuality questioned) for DARING to have read a book in his life...?

Footballers are footballers for a reason... and not Astro Physicists!

...they're good at kicking a ball about, and get paid ridiculous sums to do it... (so who's the REAL winner?)
...but most are as thick as pig shit when it comes to everyday skills like, we, I dunno, having a modecum of intelligence!!

A football brain is not the same as an actual intellectual brain!!!
 
I am vehemently against booing Vicario after that mistake, I think you are a disgrace of a fan and frankly a human being if you do something like that to someone who is supposed to be on your side. The guy isn’t the best goalie in the world but he never hides and always tries his best. Take your anger out on the club, enic etc but booing our own players individually should be reserved for the likes of if we had a Partey or Greenwood in the squad.

Porros attitude worries me though, as does this “they’re nervous to play at home” kind of talk Frank was alluding to excuse the shunning from VDV and Spence post Chelsea. I think that’s not a good mentality to have as a player. The elite players have an attitude of “I’m gonna be the man to turn this whole thing around”, hence why they go to Madrid, get booed for insane reasons and are still motivated to win a UCL and perform at a really high level. It’s worrying that Porro and seemingly quite a few of our squad don’t have that in them.
 
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I don't like the booing during the game. I think it makes the players even more nervous and encourages the opposition.

But I don't like the players having a pop about the booing. More than happy to come over when they have done well to milk it.
 
I don't like the booing during the game. I think it makes the players even more nervous and encourages the opposition.

But I don't like the players having a pop about the booing. More than happy to come over when they have done well to milk it.

I agree with this though Andy. I wouldn’t have booed Vicario if I were at the game. But I can understand why it’s happening. Everyone has just had enough of standards slipping so far. Don’t tell me it would be happening if Lloris, Verts, Son and Kane were still at the club. No chance.
 
Connection between players and fans has never been so bad. They’re kept in a bubble. When things are good they’re untouchable super beings. When things are bad it’s utterly toxic. It’s just another symptom of modern football and the fact that we lost our game decades ago.
 
So by logic, when we and you see other teams, boo and jeer the opposition when they have the bank, it’s because we want to rattle them, throw them off and force a mistake. We all know that’s the point, and we all celebrate when it works. If that’s the case, how on earth does aiming the same treatment at our own players do anything but harm us? Booing one of ours every time he touches the ball can only unsettle him and the team around him. The only person it benefits is the one doing the booing, because it lets them vent. It does nothing to help the side actually win a match.

Nobody is excusing the fact that three home wins is dreadful, but it’s worth asking why defeats keep happening. You can put some of it down to poor tactics, the manager getting things wrong, the level of the opposition or the players simply not being good enough. But once you get to the fifth, tenth defeat, you have to start looking at other common factors too, including the pressure and tense atmosphere they’re playing in.

Again, if people want to boo at the end of the match, fine. Come on here afterwards and let it all out. But during the game, maybe try something different for once. I can’t stand Liverpool fans, yet you can’t deny they turn Anfield into a place nobody enjoys playing in. Their constant sense of injustice and shouting at the referee works in their favour. Even when they weren’t as strong as us a few years ago, their home form stayed solid. You never hear them booing, even if they lose, whether you like them or not.
I don't like the booing but Vicario's error was terrible and to label fans that have not seen us win in the league since the opening day of the season and Porro's reaction is pathetic. Then his non apology in the end he can do one.
 
Connection between players and fans has never been so bad. They’re kept in a bubble. When things are good they’re untouchable super beings. When things are bad it’s utterly toxic. It’s just another symptom of modern football and the fact that we lost our game decades ago.
What is worse a player like Richarlison is alloewd to stink up the place week after week with his inability to control a ball or win a header and then rolls around because he got a wonder goal and a couple of free headers than a player like Dane Scarlett gets no minutes who came through here is a fan and it would mean everything to is a joke. Not saying Scarlett would be good but at least he would try.
 
What is worse a player like Richarlison is alloewd to stink up the place week after week with his inability to control a ball or win a header and then rolls around because he got a wonder goal and a couple of free headers than a player like Dane Scarlett gets no minutes who came through here is a fan and it would mean everything to is a joke. Not saying Scarlett would be good but at least he would try.
Dane came on against Copenhagen and performed very well, and won us a penalty which he should have taken.

Dane 100% deserves an opportunity when our players are so inconsistent and generally poor.

Squad needs a shakeup of massive proportions.
 
Liverpool have lost 11 times in 5 years at home in the PL. Thats why you don’t hear their fans boo. They’ve also won it all in recent times lol.

What do you think of Porros tantrum both on the pitch and online after?
Ask yourself why they’ve only lost that many times. Even when they dipped below us, they still barely lost at home, and a huge part of that is the lift they get from the crowd. That atmosphere turns tight games their way. Ours does the opposite at the moment. As for Porro, he was fuming like the rest of us, but that doesn’t change the point about how we support the team during the ninety minutes. Boo if you like afterwards if that’s your choice but not during the game and whenever one of our players touches the ball.
 
I don't like the booing but Vicario's error was terrible and to label fans that have not seen us win in the league since the opening day of the season and Porro's reaction is pathetic. Then his non apology in the end he can do one.
It was a bad error, no doubt, and nobody’s asking fans to pretend everything is rosy. But there’s a line between frustration and turning on your own players while they’re still out there trying to dig themselves out of a rut.

As for Porro, was the reaction over the top? Probably. But he’s human, he’s frustrated and he’s living that run every day, not just every other weekend. You can call the apology weak, but writing him off completely helps nobody. The whole point is to stop adding to the spiral, not speed it up.
 
Ask yourself why they’ve only lost that many times. Even when they dipped below us, they still barely lost at home, and a huge part of that is the lift they get from the crowd. That atmosphere turns tight games their way. Ours does the opposite at the moment. As for Porro, he was fuming like the rest of us, but that doesn’t change the point about how we support the team during the ninety minutes. Boo if you like afterwards if that’s your choice but not during the game and whenever one of our players touches the ball.
Liverpool have made better investments than us and overall play a much better style of football hence their recent accolades. They do have a good relationship with their fans. It’s a two team city and I don’t believe for one second it’s their support that created their success.

Sounds like you’re advocating a professional athletes performance is affected so badly by hurt feelings caused by boos they can’t complete basic training professional standards. Vics position on it was interesting. He didn’t point fingers at fans and speaks about the team.

This is kind of a chicken and egg thing. When we 1st moved to new WHL the players were commenting how loud it is there.

I agree with you that the atmosphere is stale at best there now. The team, results and playing style needs to take more responsibility for that. To point fingers at fans is lunacy IMO.

It should make no difference to a player booing if it does I question the mentality and perhaps that’s the real reason for our ineptness. Personal abuse is different.

We have a squad of fucking pussies.
 
So by logic, when we and you see other teams, boo and jeer the opposition when they have the bank, it’s because we want to rattle them, throw them off and force a mistake. We all know that’s the point, and we all celebrate when it works. If that’s the case, how on earth does aiming the same treatment at our own players do anything but harm us? Booing one of ours every time he touches the ball can only unsettle him and the team around him. The only person it benefits is the one doing the booing, because it lets them vent. It does nothing to help the side actually win a match.

Nobody is excusing the fact that three home wins is dreadful, but it’s worth asking why defeats keep happening. You can put some of it down to poor tactics, the manager getting things wrong, the level of the opposition or the players simply not being good enough. But once you get to the fifth, tenth defeat, you have to start looking at other common factors too, including the pressure and tense atmosphere they’re playing in.

Again, if people want to boo at the end of the match, fine. Come on here afterwards and let it all out. But during the game, maybe try something different for once. I can’t stand Liverpool fans, yet you can’t deny they turn Anfield into a place nobody enjoys playing in. Their constant sense of injustice and shouting at the referee works in their favour. Even when they weren’t as strong as us a few years ago, their home form stayed solid. You never hear them booing, even if they lose, whether you like them or not.
Would champions league wins league wins even cup wins when shithave sonething to do with that?? Even when shit they were entertaining. Had a sense of purpose thst they might be close to something.
What have we got?
Plus they dont have neighbours possibly winning it all?? highest ticket prices in football.
I dont agree with individual booing but fucking hell its been shit for do long this frustration has been building for years
 
If some of these lot can’t handle a bit of booing, they want to thank their lucky stars they don’t play in Italy or Turkey in front of the ultras
 
Here’s an idea Porro, if you and your team mates had actually bothered to turn up for the games for example against Woolwich and Chelsea then you might have banked some goodwill with the fans for when you need it.

The well of goodwill isn’t infinite Pedro, keep playing shit at home for long enough and your supporters will get fucked off eventually. I can’t name our last three league wins at home, keep being shit long enough and people will snap.
 
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