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The squad includes Jack Clarke. Rose and Foyth omitted.
The only way that full squad is kosher is if Dele is considered club trained.
Edit: Just reading twitter and Dele may be included in the Bale deal as a swap????

LLORIS1
GAZZANIGA2
AURIER3
ALDERWEIRELD4
SANCHEZ5
DIER6
HOJBJERG7
SISSOKO8
NDOMBELE9
LAMELA10
LO CELSO11
BERGWIJN12
MOURA13
SON14
DAVIES15
GEDSON16
ASSOCIATION (5)
HART1
DOHERTY2
SESSEGNON3
ALLI???4
CLARKE5
CLUB TRAINED (4)
WHITEMAN1
WINKS2
KANE3
CCV4
Total25

No we are ok we have only 16 overseas trained players listed )one less than maximum 17) so can nominate 5 players (rather than 4) trained by other clubs affiliated to The FA to get to the maximum 25 man squad (with 4 club trained players.

Interesting that CCV is included as a Club Trained player even though it sounds as if he is off to Bournenouth now.
 
No we are ok we have only 16 overseas trained players listed )one less than maximum 17) so can nominate 5 players (rather than 4) trained by other clubs affiliated to The FA to get to the maximum 25 man squad (with 4 club trained players.

Interesting that CCV is included as a Club Trained player even though it sounds as if he is off to Bournenouth now.
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Thanks. The penny just dropped about the association players.

If 17 non-HG then maximum 4 association.
If 16 non-HG then maximum 5 association.
If 15 non-HG then maximum 6 association etc.

Association-trained players – players who were on another club's books in the same association for three years between the ages of 15 and 21.
No club can have more than four association-trained players among their eight 'local' nominees on List A.
 
Prem

HG
1. Kane
2. Winks
3. Davies
4. Doherty
5. Sessegnon
6. Hart
7. Bale
8. Davies
9. Dele

non HG
1. Lloris
2. Gazzaniga
3. Aurier
4. Alderweireld
5. Sanchez
6. Dier
7. Hojbjerg
8. Sissoko
9. Ndombele
10. Lamela
11. Lo Celso
12. Bergwijn
13. Lucas
14. Son
15. Gedson
16. Reguilon
17. New ST

Total: 26*

Clarke, Sess and Tanganga U21. I have already not included CCV, Rose, Foyth and Whiteman yet there is one too many in the squad. Main candidates for removal would be Gedson (wish we never signed him), Lamela (to be sold), Aurier (I think he will stay now) and the most likely option Gazzaniga.

For UEL

Club trained
1. Kane
2. Winks
3. Bale
4. CCV/Whiteman

Association
1. Hart
2. Doherty
3. Sessegnon
4. Dele

non-HG
1. Lloris
2. Gazzaniga
3. Aurier
4. Alderweireld
5. Sanchez
6. Dier
7. Hojbjerg
8. Sissoko
9. Ndombele
10. Lamela
11. Lo Celso
12. Bergwijn
13. Lucas
14. Son
15. Gedson
16. Reguilon
17. New ST
18. Davies

Total: 26*

Again we have one too many in the squad, and that’s with Clarke, Foyth and one of CCV/Whiteman not selected.

TLDR: The only way we would be able to sign Reguilon, Bale and a new ST is if one of our first team foreigners goes. The most likely candidates being Gazzaniga, Lamela and Aurier - we also would need to move on Foyth, Rose and probably Whiteman.
EPL rules say Sessegnon and Gedson are U 21 so don't need to be included in the squad.
I very much doubt we will be selling Whiteman.
 
EPL rules say Sessegnon and Gedson are U 21 so don't need to be included in the squad.
I very much doubt we will be selling Whiteman.
Ah forgot about that, would just mean someone isn’t in the UEL squad. I just think what’s the point in him being here if he’s not registered and we’ve got 3 other keepers. Loan probably more likely I guess.
 
I imagine we now have too many players to register under uefa rules - see other posts summarising squad above your post
Yeah saw that. But we could've easily taken Clarke out and put Foyth in the squad. Currently we have 16 foreign players so Foyth would've completed our foreign players slot. Clarke isn't likely to get much gametime with us. Better to send him out on loan imo.
 
Yeah saw that. But we could've easily taken Clarke out and put Foyth in the squad. Currently we have 16 foreign players so Foyth would've completed our foreign players slot. Clarke isn't likely to get much gametime with us. Better to send him out on loan imo.

I doubt if Foyth (loan or sale) or Clarke (loan) will be at Spurs at end of TW
 
With Bale and Reguilon added the EPL squad is a full 25.
Foyth
was not included in the EL squad. Bale and Reguilon added means we have a total of 27.
Ironically we need to lose 2 HG players if we keep all 17 non-HG.

NON-HG (16) EPLNON-HG (17) EL
1LLORISLLORIS1
2GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA2
3AURIERAURIER3
4ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD4
5SANCHEZSANCHEZ5
6DIERDIER6
7FOYTH
8REGUILONREGUILON7
9HOJBJERGHOJBJERG8
10SISSOKOSISSOKO9
11NDOMBELENDOMBELE10
12LAMELALAMELA11
13LO CELSOLO CELSO12
14BERGWIJNBERGWIJN13
15MOURAMOURA14
16SONSON15
DAVIES16
GEDSON17
HG (9)ASSOCIATION (5)
1HARTHART1
2DOHERTYDOHERTY2
3ALLIALLI3
4DAVIESSESSEGNON4
CLARKE5
CLUB TRAINED (5)
5WHITEMANWHITEMAN1
6CCVCCV2
7WINKSWINKS3
8KANEKANE4
9BALEBALE5
SQUAD TOTAL: 25SQUAD TOTAL: 27
 
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With Bale and Reguilon added the EPL squad is a full 25.
Foyth
was not included in the EL squad. Bale and Reguilon added means we have a total of 27.
Ironically we need to lose 2 HG players if we keep all 17 non-HG.

NON-HG (16) EPLNON-HG (17) EL
1LLORISLLORIS1
2GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA2
3AURIERAURIER3
4ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD4
5SANCHEZSANCHEZ5
6DIERDIER6
7FOYTH
8REGUILONREGUILON7
9HOJBJERGHOJBJERG8
10SISSOKOSISSOKO9
11NDOMBELENDOMBELE10
12LAMELALAMELA11
13LO CELSOLO CELSO12
14BERGWIJNBERGWIJN13
15MOURAMOURA14
16SONSON15
DAVIES16
GEDSON17
HG (9)ASSOCIATION (5)
1HARTHART1
2DOHERTYDOHERTY2
3ALLIALLI3
4DAVIESSESSEGNON4
CLARKE5
CLUB TRAINED (5)
5WHITEMANWHITEMAN1
6CCVCCV2
7WINKSWINKS3
8KANEKANE4
9BALEBALE5
SQUAD TOTAL: 25SQUAD TOTAL: 27
That's not correct, it's a minimum of 8 HG you could have 25 HG if you want. I would say that CCV/Whiteman and Clarke will be on the chopping block for UEL
 
EL rules: Dier was trained in PortugaL: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Dier was trained in Portugal: Non-HG.
EL
rules: Davies was trained in Wales: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Davies: HG.
EL
rules: Gedson: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Gedson: U21.
EL
rules: Clarke has not been with us 2 years: Association.
EPL
rules: Clarke: U21.

EPLEL
NON-HG (16)NON-HG (18)
1LLORISLLORIS1
2GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA2
3AURIERAURIER3
4ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD4
5SANCHEZSANCHEZ5
6DIERDIER6
7REGUILONREGUILON7
8HOJBJERGHOJBJERG8
9SISSOKOSISSOKO9
10NDOMBELENDOMBELE10
11LAMELALAMELA11
12LO CELSOLO CELSO12
13BERGWIJNBERGWIJN13
14MOURAMOURA14
15SONSON15
16VINICIUSVINICIUS16
DAVIES17
GEDSON18
HG (9)ASSOCIATION (4)
1HARTHART1
2DOHERTYDOHERTY2
3ALLIALLI3
4DAVIESCLARKE4
CLUB TRAINED (5)
5WHITEMANWHITEMAN1
6CCVCCV2
7WINKSWINKS3
8KANEKANE4
9BALEBALE5
SQUAD TOTAL: 25SQUAD TOTAL: 27
EPLEL
SQUAD OF 25SQUAD OF 25
MAX 17 NON-HGMAX 17 NON-HG
IF 17 NON-HGIF 17 NON-HG
MAX 8 HGMAX 8 HG
(MAX 4 ASSOCIATION)
U21 on 1st Jan inyear season starts
(UNDER 21)LIST B (UNDER 21)
No restrictionsWith Spurs 2 years

Window closed. Provisional squads above.
EPL squad is kosher at 25.
EL squad we need to lose one non-HG.
It's between Gedson and Gazza IMO.
If he keeps Gazza then Whiteman will be dropped and that is 25 total.
If he keeps Gedson then Whiteman will stay and one other association or club trained player must be dropped.
Highly likely to be CCV so maybe slight chance Jose keeps Clarke and plays him in any dead rubber games?
 
EL rules: Dier was trained in PortugaL: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Dier was trained in Portugal: Non-HG.
EL
rules: Davies was trained in Wales: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Davies: HG.
EL
rules: Gedson: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Gedson: U21.
EL
rules: Clarke has not been with us 2 years: Association.
EPL
rules: Clarke: U21.

EPLEL
NON-HG (16)NON-HG (18)
1LLORISLLORIS1
2GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA2
3AURIERAURIER3
4ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD4
5SANCHEZSANCHEZ5
6DIERDIER6
7REGUILONREGUILON7
8HOJBJERGHOJBJERG8
9SISSOKOSISSOKO9
10NDOMBELENDOMBELE10
11LAMELALAMELA11
12LO CELSOLO CELSO12
13BERGWIJNBERGWIJN13
14MOURAMOURA14
15SONSON15
16VINICIUSVINICIUS16
DAVIES17
GEDSON18
HG (9)ASSOCIATION (4)
1HARTHART1
2DOHERTYDOHERTY2
3ALLIALLI3
4DAVIESCLARKE4
CLUB TRAINED (5)
5WHITEMANWHITEMAN1
6CCVCCV2
7WINKSWINKS3
8KANEKANE4
9BALEBALE5
SQUAD TOTAL: 25SQUAD TOTAL: 27
EPLEL
SQUAD OF 25SQUAD OF 25
MAX 17 NON-HGMAX 17 NON-HG
IF 17 NON-HGIF 17 NON-HG
MAX 8 HGMAX 8 HG
(MAX 4 ASSOCIATION)
U21 on 1st Jan inyear season starts
(UNDER 21)LIST B (UNDER 21)
No restrictionsWith Spurs 2 years

Window closed. Provisional squads above.
EPL squad is kosher at 25.
EL squad we need to lose one non-HG.
It's between Gedson and Gazza IMO.
If he keeps Gazza then Whiteman will be dropped and that is 25 total.
If he keeps Gedson then Whiteman will stay and one other association or club trained player must be dropped.
Highly likely to be CCV so maybe slight chance Jose keeps Clarke and plays him in any dead rubber games?


:roseunsure:
 
EL rules: Dier was trained in PortugaL: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Dier was trained in Portugal: Non-HG.
EL
rules: Davies was trained in Wales: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Davies: HG.
EL
rules: Gedson: Non-HG.
EPL
rules: Gedson: U21.
EL
rules: Clarke has not been with us 2 years: Association.
EPL
rules: Clarke: U21.

EPLEL
NON-HG (16)NON-HG (18)
1LLORISLLORIS1
2GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA2
3AURIERAURIER3
4ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD4
5SANCHEZSANCHEZ5
6DIERDIER6
7REGUILONREGUILON7
8HOJBJERGHOJBJERG8
9SISSOKOSISSOKO9
10NDOMBELENDOMBELE10
11LAMELALAMELA11
12LO CELSOLO CELSO12
13BERGWIJNBERGWIJN13
14MOURAMOURA14
15SONSON15
16VINICIUSVINICIUS16
DAVIES17
GEDSON18
HG (9)ASSOCIATION (4)
1HARTHART1
2DOHERTYDOHERTY2
3ALLIALLI3
4DAVIESCLARKE4
CLUB TRAINED (5)
5WHITEMANWHITEMAN1
6CCVCCV2
7WINKSWINKS3
8KANEKANE4
9BALEBALE5
SQUAD TOTAL: 25SQUAD TOTAL: 27
EPLEL
SQUAD OF 25SQUAD OF 25
MAX 17 NON-HGMAX 17 NON-HG
IF 17 NON-HGIF 17 NON-HG
MAX 8 HGMAX 8 HG
(MAX 4 ASSOCIATION)
U21 on 1st Jan inyear season starts
(UNDER 21)LIST B (UNDER 21)
No restrictionsWith Spurs 2 years

Window closed. Provisional squads above.
EPL squad is kosher at 25.
EL squad we need to lose one non-HG.
It's between Gedson and Gazza IMO.
If he keeps Gazza then Whiteman will be dropped and that is 25 total.
If he keeps Gedson then Whiteman will stay and one other association or club trained player must be dropped.
Highly likely to be CCV so maybe slight chance Jose keeps Clarke and plays him in any dead rubber games?

And if Rodon joins - overseas trained for both UEFA and EPL

Still a space for Rodon in the EPL side, but not in UEFA squad until January (and then only if we offload an overseas trained player) ?
 
And if Rodon joins - overseas trained for both UEFA and EPL

Still a space for Rodon in the EPL side, but not in UEFA squad until January (and then only if we offload an overseas trained player) ?
How is he overseas in the EPL ?

Surely he would be in the same bracket as Davies ?
 
And if Rodon joins - overseas trained for both UEFA and EPL

Still a space for Rodon in the EPL side, but not in UEFA squad until January (and then only if we offload an overseas trained player) ?
Gazza highly likely to go in the Jan window to make space for Rodon.
But then we have to make a HG space for Whiteman! :)
 
Gazza highly likely to go in the Jan window to make space fro Rodon.
But then we have to make a HG space for Whiteman!
Why would we have to lose a HG for Whiteman ?

Surely you can have as many HG as you like ?

I thought you could have as many HG as you like as the rules say minimum allowed ?
 
Why would we have to lose a HG for Whiteman ?

Surely you can have as many HG as you like ?

I thought you could have as many HG as you like as the rules say minimum allowed ?
Whiteman is over 21. The maximum squad is 25. If we have 17 non-HG then we can only have a maximum of 8 HG.
If we have 16 non-HG we can have max 9 HG. 15 non-HG max 10 HG. Etc.
 
Whiteman is over 21. The maximum squad is 25. If we have 17 non-HG then we can only have a maximum of 8 HG.
If we have 16 non-HG we can have max 9 HG. 15 non-HG max 10 HG. Etc.
Yeah.
Sorry, I misunderstood your post. Thought you meant we'd have to drop a HG to include Whiteman.
 
I think we have to leave 2 foreign trained players out of our EL squad. Guess it will be Gazza and Gedson but given these are the only matches they would likely play before the January window it feels a bit crap on them. My main annoyance about this window is we havent sorted this issue out.
 
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