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News Premier League star arrested on suspicion of rape

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Raumdeuterz said:
You can believe what you're being told without condemning the accused. False accusations are incredibly rare statistically. There's a big difference between 'I believe & will support you' and going off to begin a witch hunt against the person they're accusing.

Believe & comfort the potential victim, and recognize the right of the accused to defend themselves.
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I think it's an issue of wording. You shouldn't believe a woman accusing anyone of rape than anyone accusing anyone of any other crime. What you should do is, take the accusation seriously, investigate as you would any other serious allegation such as murder.

That does mean that you eventually have to question her and see if there are any holes in her story. Even though it might be adding trauma on top of trauma, it's something that needs to be done for the sake of due process.
 
KaneIsAble said:
I think it's an issue of wording. You shouldn't believe a woman accusing anyone of rape than anyone accusing anyone of any other crime. What you should do is, take the accusation seriously, investigate as you would any other serious allegation such as murder.

That does mean that you eventually have to question her and see if there are any holes in her story. Even though it might be adding trauma on top of trauma, it's something that needs to be done for the sake of due process.
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No one can disagree with that
 
Herclueless said:
Great, but there is some investigation carried out between accusation and charge isn't there? The tweet posted suggested that belief of the accuser be the starting point, I just can't see how that would be a viable option.
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Perhaps I misunderstood. Yes, there always needs to be an investigation before charges are laid. The investigation is based on reasonable grounds to suspect an offence (so lower standard than believing). The standard for charging is significantly higher than belief. (realistic prospect of proving all ingredients of offence beyond reasonable doubt)
Police officers are trained and legally required to be victim focused or victim centric. At the same time, they also need to be objective investigatos, assessors, decision makers. Its a tricky thing for Police / Crown to balance but is practicable.
 
LeParisien said:
It seems powers to prosecute sexual assault committed by U.K. nationals and residents abroad already existed since 2003 if the victim is under 18. There’s no evidence of a rule change to allow a victim to be protected if she’s over 18 but it’s possible ?
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She did mention something about Woolwich not being able to do anything because she's over 18, but I guess she meant the police, that would make sense in light of this info.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
That was the same here in the uk not so long ago, so I'd not be to quick to look down at 'other cultures'. Its not in the front of my mind but was the law only change on this as late as 1992? (Don't quote me on that, or someone do due diligence). We have a very fake cultural perception of who we are here and how long we have been enlighten. I'd also point out that there is a very active campaign by people who like to throw around the term woke, to overturn lots of the rights people seem to think we're always part of our "culture ". They weren't they were fought for bitterly . By 'woke' campaigns.
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I will look down on other cultures where it seems to be the majority view and I will look down on those (there are still around) who believe it in the UK, basically anyone who believes that I will look down on them. I used other cultures in this instance as that is where the tweets were coming from, well all the ones I saw.

*also purposely used "some cultures" not other countries as I am sure some within the UK believe this also
 
jgn88 said:
ValenicaYid ....Is a cunt
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As I said two weeks ago when he was dropping cute transfer hints in the summer transfer thread.

The Absolute GOAT The Absolute GOAT I demand an apology from you. Please delete this post and let the record duly reflect that ValenciaYid is a blight on the earth.
cretinousgoat said:
Disgusting post and bang out of order. VY is no 'hercules' and has always posted decent stuff, regardless of your stance on itk (which I agree for the most part is bullshit).

Calling him a 'blight on the earth' though? Bin vote cast. Suggest you apologise or delete your account.
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VirginiaSpur said:
As I said two weeks ago when he was dropping cute transfer hints in the summer transfer thread.

The Absolute GOAT The Absolute GOAT I demand an apology from you. Please delete this post and let the record duly reflect that ValenciaYid is a blight on the earth.
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Eh?

What has that got to do with his comment lol. We were talking previously about his ITK record (which is good).

His comment in this thread was out of order, and as such I cast a bin vote.

You can demand what you like! I demand £1 billion pounds worth of mars bars, but I ain't going get 'em.

sorry
 
cretinousgoat said:
Eh?

What has that got to do with his comment lol. We were talking previously about his ITK record (which is good).

His comment in this thread was out of order, and as such I cast a bin vote.

You can demand what you like! I demand £1 billion pounds worth of mars bars, but I ain't going get 'em.
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Once a cunt, always a cunt.

Being ITK on an internet forum probably overlaps significantly on a venn diagram of various crimes and misdemeanors.
 
Herclueless said:
TBF, and in no way does this make Woolwich's stance in the matter any more palatable, all of the communication that she has posted there is from the FA, it is their policy that no action (whatever that would have been...) be taken due to her age, not Woolwich's.
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What it does show that Woolwich knew about Partey. knew of the pretty compelling evidence and chose to continue to play him. This is going to get very murky.
 
Dogstar said:
What it does show that Woolwich knew about Partey. knew of the pretty compelling evidence and chose to continue to play him. This is going to get very murky.
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Not a chance in hell that the FA were talking to her without woolwich being party to all discussions. If Spurs were in a similar situation and simply abdicated all responsibility to the FA, I'd call for Levy and everyone on the board to be sacked and banned from the club for life.

If nothing else it's a dereliction of duty towards the club.
 
I think we can all accept that now that ValYid is binned, I am the undisputed king of itk.

Do not expect any more INs before the start of the PL window. Everything you read is just clickbait, monetising your attention. This thread will be utter shit now for a couple of weeks.

Im not itk on this but I think we’ll draw against Southampton and then spend big on an AM
 
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