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coughymachine said:
Accepted, though I guess it depends on how tightly you define it. The PeopleFirst website, for example, appears to have a broader definition that could be interpreted as including those under the influence of alcohol.
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I suppose it depends on how habitual the use of alcohol is. There are lots of people who are situationally at risk at closing time on a Friday night. Safeguarding policies are drafted for habitual, occupational and involuntary factors as opposed to an otherwise functioning person drinking too much in a given situation. Having said that, I've just assumed her PTSD (and any other issues) were caused by the offence.
I think Woolwich have massively failed but more in terms of optics /opprobrium rather than safeguarding in this instance. As another poster commented, it will be interesting to see what their sponsors do
 
I don’t use social media (unless WhatsApp is counted as SM now?) so I’m not one to talk about it’s merits/negatives etc

But surely giving this girl the platform to get her story heard and not just brushed under the carpet is a positive thing?

In years before social media, the player in question would have gotten away with this

Yes she’s getting trolled but also in a way it’s probably a relief to her to get this all out there
 
Shadydan said:
So bye bye TFC forum then.
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El Noel said:
Good point. What we have here is a case in point of how it can breach censorship of the press. It just comes with a shitload of damaging baggage.
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Yeah, it has its downsides, but there have been so many instances of it being the one thing to breach the narrative driven by mainstream media.

In extreme cases like in the arab spring, it was the only way to get the word out for those opposing the dictactorships. It remains the only free channel of communication for the Mayanmar rebels.
 
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Lego man is true to his word, I guess. Reap what you sow.
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He always gave me a creep vibe. I know you shouldn't condemn a man just off vibes, but this whole saga stinks and I get the sense he's got his fingerprints all over it.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
You can do as you please obvs.But we the UK are far from pristine on this, which is the substantive point. Also 'where it seems to be the majority' means practically nothing. If we have learned one thing about social media it is that its very performative. It can't be used as a barometer of any kind of concensus thank fuck. It's the home of attention seeking halfwits. Also be wary of where 'Tweets' claim to come from, as analysis post the racist abuse of Saka Rashford and Sancho highlighted.
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"Some cultures " that includes some in the UK but you go ahead and read into it what you like.

I could have put some people and that would be equally as true but not taking into account that it's largely a cultural thing which has more meaning imo.
 
VirginiaSpur said:
I'm sure the media is all over this one. Let me go check Sky.

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Hmm, that's odd. I thought this story would be getting top-billing. Surely it's right beneath?

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Okay, I have some questions. Are they covering this story at all?

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THERE IT IS!

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Its an ongoing police investigation, would they be allowed to report as it could influence a jury assuming it goes to trial.
 
Warehouse Eyes said:
I suppose it depends on how habitual the use of alcohol is. There are lots of people who are situationally at risk at closing time on a Friday night. Safeguarding policies are drafted for habitual, occupational and involuntary factors as opposed to an otherwise functioning person drinking too much in a given situation. Having said that, I've just assumed her PTSD (and any other issues) were caused by the offence.
I think Woolwich have massively failed but more in terms of optics /opprobrium rather than safeguarding in this instance. As another poster commented, it will be interesting to see what their sponsors do
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The safeguarding isn't of the accuser but others that would come in contact with him via the club. They would have a narrow definition of at risk within their remit, perhaps the remit needs to be looked at.

I.e. If she was u 18 they would get involved due to contact with u18 at the club.
 
bunburyist said:
Indeed. Few years back an athletic club I had the honour of chairmaning for a couple years had 1000+ kids at a weekend from 5-16.

One evening we received multiple anonymous tips that there had been an incident where one of our coaches, who also coached at a local school, had been accused of 'being inappropriate' with some of the boys at the school. We knew no details, and were provided no evidence.

We immediately stood him down until the matter was cleared up. It turned out that nothing could be proved, but that there had been a similar complaint several years prior, also with no definitive outcome.

Innocent until proven guilty but not where children's safety is concerned I'm afraid. After a tearful phone conversation where he denied everything, he left the country the week after. Make of that what you will but it has made me think - it could well have been an attempt to ruin him by someone and he was actually innocent. Much of life depends on people being honest.
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Sounds a bit like The Hunt

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The Hunt: Directed by Thomas Vinterberg. With Mads Mikkelsen, Thomas Bo Larsen, Annika Wedderkopp, Lasse Fogelstrøm. A teacher lives a lonely life, all the while struggling over his son's custody. His life slowly gets better as he finds love and receives good news from his son, but his new luck...
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Raumdeuterz said:
You can believe what you're being told without condemning the accused. False accusations are incredibly rare statistically. There's a big difference between 'I believe & will support you' and going off to begin a witch hunt against the person they're accusing.

Believe & comfort the potential victim, and recognize the right of the accused to defend themselves.
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Good post mate. Couldn’t agree more with what you wrote.
 
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