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News Premier League star arrested on suspicion of rape
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Has he been found guilty then?
He played in games last week, let’s see what happens this weekend
Not a dickie bird from that pathetic club. Partey should absolutely have been suspended by now. End of.
Richarlison would be worth every pound of that transfer fee including the addons if he Cantona's Partey in October should that scumbag be on the pitch.
you'd put him on leave even if he's innocent at this point until you can totally clear allegations publicly. If he plays next Friday he'll get murdered, maybe literally
No, and cannot be charged due to the alleged offence taking place abroad before new legislation was enacted.
I see where you are going here and would be intrigued to know whether you think Man Utd’s actions to suspend Greenwood were appropriate given that he has not been convicted either?
I’d rather a Roy Keane on Haland type tackle personally.
I'm just uneasy about people being damned based on an accusation. That's all.
I think both him and Greenwood are probably guilty (well...Greenwood obviously is) in which case they can fuck off to hell as far as I'm concerned. But I do believe in innocent until proven guilty.
I agree with judging a case on its merits. Which is why I love the European court of human rights. It consistently comes to good decisions. I’m glad you would extend that court the same courtesy.
But anyway - the moment you start listening to unfounded rumours about a judge being biased because of made up internet rumours then that’s the moment I stop engaging.
Honestly, the U.K. should be REALLY proud of its judges and the legal system. It is genuinely something you can put your hand on your heart and sing Rule Britannia about. It’s a shame if you don’t appreciate it.
That may be so, I wouldn’t know.
I can say that there are significant differences. For example, the High Court in London admitted contemporaneous text messages from Depp’s agent clearly showing abuse on a plane and Depp’s subsequent contrition for that abuse. This was significant in finding Depp abused Heard on one occasion.
The Virginian court refused to accept these text messages as admissible (hearsay) on the grounds that his agent wasn’t acting as his agent when he sent those texts to Heard. This is far from clear and despite the fact the guy was acting on Depp’s behalf and referring to events he witnessed when he indisputably was acting as Depp’s agent. It’s farcical.
So the rules of admissibility were interpreted in a way that denied justice in Virginia. The U.K. court did a better job of that.
AAAAAANYWAY… massive tangent here from scummy Partey.
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It's been a long time since I read up on it, and tbh, I'm not inclined to revisit it, but I found the links between Heard and the judge compelling/convincing at the time.
I don't why/how you got the impression that the British courts are in any way special or outstanding compared to their peers in the developed world. We're the country of super injunctions ffs.
He is innocent until proven guilty.
It isn't a new-fangled idea to put someone on leave and suspension pending the results of an investigation or criminal trial.
And the kicker is that it's the right thing to do from a footballing perspective, too. Even if this is the frame-up job to end all frame-up jobs, Partey and his teammates can't hardly expect to be clear minded and laser focused, either. The other players are going to have their own demands and ideas about playing alongside Partey while this is all going on.
Common sense dictates that something be done. Whatever that something is can be recalibrated after the fact, but the silence here is absolutely deafening and it's creating a vacuum for people to create their own narratives, which is enormously damaging to absolutely everyone.
From having read hundreds of decisions rendered by British courts, learning about the jurisprudence they have developed which has protected citizens against government overreach despite the absence of a codified constitution, and from attending many lectures by senior judges.
They compare favourably with judges in France.
And the US… there are good people but electing judges is a bad idea and the politicisation of senior judges has corrupted the system in the past few decades.
Im open to other countries having great judges though.
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Well, I'll take your word for it I guess. From my layman's POV it does seem that while Britain is capable of great innovations and developing frameworks, in practice power and connection still rules supreme.
Now I guess it makes me feel sorry for the French and others.
Bang on the money.
The price for being found criminally guilty is high - reputationally, practically in terms of employment and visas, and in terms of punishment. That is why we have a high bar to legal guilt.
But our judgements can rightly come sooner based on evaluating the evidence (or lack of evidence) that we have.
As a club they have known about this for 10 months. They have continued to play him in numerous games during this period. At the same time they removed the captaincy from Aubameyang and dropped him from the team and paid him to leave for missing training for personal reasons and being late to training.
There are real concerns and the Conservative party have been appalling on justice issues.
To name three things:
- restricting legal aid, which exacerbâtes the extent to which people with money have more access to justice
- restricting access to judicial review based on false narratives about NIMBYs, even though statistics show this is not a significant concern
- mounting a sustained campaign against the European convention on human rights, despite the fact the U.K. wins 99% of cases there (and the U.K. has a proud record of promoting human rights throughout the world!).
That's a thoughtful and reasonable way of seeing it.
But what happens if every Spurs player (or any other team) gets accused by people looking to make some cash?
To be clear I'm not implying that these are false accusations. Just pointing out how it's open to abuse.