You're conflating rational vs irrational.
There are lots of posters here that police the forum and tell people they're not fans for accepting the situation, and they're basing that off hopes and dreams, whereas every bit of evidence suggests that we're going down.
It's not a gotcha thing, no one wants us to go down, maybe 1 or 2 idiots who believe it'll force a sale (it won't), but when you see the happy clapper nonsense, ignoring all of the evidence right in front of your face, it's irritating, and these are emotional times. If there was any argument based off logic, then that's grand, but just being delusional is just annoying.