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His finishing is nowhere near world class. Not saying Toney's is either but he's defintely a more natural goal-scorer than Richarlison. I thnk he would be an ugrade, but how much of an upgrade is open for debate.

Richarlison's strength is that he can do a bit of everything. But he's the master of nothing.
He's posted 11 goals in 16 games. He can be wearing clown shoes and use a McDonald's straw to blow it into the goal for all I care. He's been delivering of late and I can't see the point in getting rid of him right now. We do need someone to challenge him, ideally so we have some consistency when one of them's injured.
 
In the one period in the past two seasons that Richie has had a good run of games, with no injuries, he did very well, and banged in what, about 9 goals in 9 games or something? He is better than the numbers to date suggest b/c of the injuries. He's actually the only one of those below who I really think we should keep for 24-25

Son
Richie
Johnson
Werner
Kulu
Solomon
 
So everyone wants to keep him now? I thought we wanted to buy a new striker? I defended Richarlison for these past 2 years but getting back the £60m for him is a no-brainer.

That’s too much money to turn down for a player that everyone wanted replacing a few days ago
 
His finishing is nowhere near world class. Not saying Toney's is either but he's defintely a more natural goal-scorer than Richarlison. I thnk he would be an ugrade, but how much of an upgrade is open for debate.

Richarlison's strength is that he can do a bit of everything. But he's the master of nothing.
hes got that competitive spirit and right now we badly need that. we look better when richarlison is on the pitch, not down to his quality with a ball but just through his hunger alone, it probably tells us how bad the others are when this becomes a huge reason to have richarlison.
 
So everyone wants to keep him now? I thought we wanted to buy a new striker? I defended Richarlison for these past 2 years but getting back the £60m for him is a no-brainer.

That’s too much money to turn down for a player that everyone wanted replacing a few days ago
As much as I like him I do agree you can't turn down 60mil.. he's 2 yrs older and has 2 yrs fewer on his contract from when we bought him so have to accept such a bid.
 
I know it’s a long read ( link is at the bottom) and written in 2012 , when Richi was 15 ( fifteen ) . Back then he probably never even dreamt that in a few short years he’d be playing for Watford .

I know he was too young to be included in this list ; but where would you rank him ??? ( serious question ) .

Make it easier , above or below (number 10 in the list ) ; Vasco Da Gama’s Roberto Dinamite ?? All time top scorer in Brazil’s série A , but never established himself in the Selecao , but still hit 20 in 38 apps ( 1970’a 1980’s) ) btw Richi’s currently 20 in 48 . Probably because he has to spend more time tracking back and is inherently less selfish than Dinamite in front of goal ( my guess) ..

Just a few rungs below Dinamite
(who’s mid-table) is Bebeto .

The player ranked above Dinamite played in the 1920’s and was nicknamed “the Tiger “ ; a player previously unknown to me , but presumably , decent enough .

FYI : The top four are : Jairzinho , Romario , Ronaldo and Pele .

The Selecao’s centro said yes to Spurs !!!

Vamos Celebrar !!

Ranking Brazil's 20 Greatest Strikers of All Time
 
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Re Richi’s place in the list , and could he be doing more for us ( say ; long range free kicks ) .

Remember Dinamite never established himself in the Selecao and is number 10 thus a mid-table mediocrity in the rankings .

OTH : Richi HAS established himself as first pick in the Selecao and made the move to Watford whilst almost a teenager . Dinamite remained at Vasco for , essentially, his whole career.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-ANfEqE9KY&pp=ygUQcm9iZXJ0byBkaW5hbWl0ZQ%3D%3D


Remember : Never , unlike our Richi , the established Selecao number 9 .

Have a look at the vid ( the musics good as well ) and think / ponder :

Richi a little bit better than Dinamite ; thus a 9 on the list OR

a little bit worse ; thus more in Bebeto territory.

Have a think and enjoy the tunes .

Remember - he’s the Brazilian National Team’s number 9 .

Underrated or under-utilised; let me know what you think !
Kendrick Lamar Rap GIF by RightNow
 
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So would I but Toney would give us a presence and knows the league. He wouldn’t need to settle in . We don’t have that with Richy or Sonny. They are easy to play against especially when teams sit in and there’s no space for them because they can’t play in tight spaces. They can’t link the play with clever touches and both have a touch like a set of railings when a defender goes tight with them.
Sonny and Richy would be subs at best for me next season. Would they accept that ??
They will all get games with Ropey league marathon….
 
Toney scored 4 goals and assisted 2 so far in the league this season, having made his return in gameweek 21. Richarlison has scored 11 and assisted 4. Minutes played for Richarlison is 1428 and for Toney 1269. Richarlison is severely outperforming Toney.

Last season Toney scored 12 goals from open play and assisted 4 in 2953 minutes. Goals per minute, Richarlison has contributed about twice as much this season in g/a than Toney did in his best season ever. Of course it depends on the team you play in etc. but Toney's contribution seems overrated.

Toney is 28 years old. Doesn't seem like the best use of money. I'd rather see that we stick with Richarlison than going for Toney.
 
Look at Richy's xG for first time finishing and compare to goals scored.. Tifo did a piece on this earlier this season, Richy is actually number 1 in the league for outperforming his xG for first time finishers. He has the best goals vs touches ratio of anyone in the league also. That is world class. And regarding his pressing check out his heat maps.. they are off the charts in terms of his defensive output .. very very underrated player
You good sir are either on drugs, Richarlison himself using google translate or not a spurs fan - wtf are you talking about?
Wish people would STFU with this Xg nonsense ffs
 
Toney scored 4 goals and assisted 2 so far in the league this season, having made his return in gameweek 21. Richarlison has scored 11 and assisted 4. Minutes played for Richarlison is 1428 and for Toney 1269. Richarlison is severely outperforming Toney.

Last season Toney scored 12 goals from open play and assisted 4 in 2953 minutes. Goals per minute, Richarlison has contributed about twice as much this season in g/a than Toney did in his best season ever. Of course it depends on the team you play in etc. but Toney's contribution seems overrated.

Toney is 28 years old. Doesn't seem like the best use of money. I'd rather see that we stick with Richarlison than going for Toney.
toney defo the better footballer. richarlison is literally a war dog, who when you flood the box with service he will get you goals. hes just not any good for buildup. hes a bit like haaland in the sense that if hes in a side that wants to dominate the ball you need to keep it away from him as much as you can until youre in the box.

the problem richarlison has had at spurs is hes had real shite service. if he had two wide players that could actually thump a cross in to near where he is and give him half a chance youd see a lot better richarlison.
the wide players need to be proper footballers if youre dealing with a striker like richarlison. having son with him is putting two poor build up players together and it kills the pair of them. son needs the striker to be harry kane and richarlison needs his wingers to be players with brains and technical ability.
 
In the one period in the past two seasons that Richie has had a good run of games, with no injuries, he did very well, and banged in what, about 9 goals in 9 games or something? He is better than the numbers to date suggest b/c of the injuries. He's actually the only one of those below who I really think we should keep for 24-25

Son
Richie
Johnson
Werner
Kulu
Solomon


So you really think we should only keep 1 of our forwards for next season?? We would need at least 5 replacements then.. do you seriously think that it's something we should do.. ? This isn't a computer game like football manager of FIFA.
 
He's posted 11 goals in 16 games. He can be wearing clown shoes and use a McDonald's straw to blow it into the goal for all I care. He's been delivering of late and I can't see the point in getting rid of him right now. We do need someone to challenge him, ideally so we have some consistency when one of them's injured.

I never implied we should get rid of him though? He's fine as a squad player. But I can't ever seen him being the main man up top for any top club. I know he gets in the Brazil team but they have a major lack of top quality strikers.
 
I’d keep Richy but only bc I think the winger positions are more important now. Kulu is done for us, Solomon who knows, Johnson only scores from a yard, and Werner can’t even score from there. We need a Mane or the next Son.
 
I’d keep Richy but only bc I think the winger positions are more important now. Kulu is done for us, Solomon who knows, Johnson only scores from a yard, and Werner can’t even score from there. We need a Mane or the next Son.
BJ is ok on the right and has showed potential.

Hope Kulu, Werner and Solomon are all moved on
 
I never implied we should get rid of him though? He's fine as a squad player. But I can't ever seen him being the main man up top for any top club. I know he gets in the Brazil team but they have a major lack of top quality strikers.
Yeah I agree with you and your comment about him being 'the master of none'. I was typing out-loud, so to speak, about how in-form he is and how it seems a bit mad to get rid of him right now (as a few recent articles seem to imply might happen).
 
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