Does it even matter?
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Management Roberto De Zerbi
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I get it, you're on this doom and gloom train but let's be serious no-one is walking away from that much money, that's not how things work - people don't just walk away from life changing money like that - if anything if he gets frustrated he's more likely to do something that will get himself sacked, probably speak out against the owners in a press conference or something that is considered gross misconduct but to walk away from £50-60m?, sorry you're off your head lol
I agree he won't be here for 5 years though.
His entire demeanour in pressers, intervews, touchline has felt a bit low energy and subdued by his standards. Maybe because we gave him an offer he couldn't refuse and he wasnt quite ready.
Hopefully after the summer he'll be more up for it, whichever division we're in as he can have a bit of a rest, reevaluate and start fresh.
Howe wouldnt step down to the Champo after what he's done at Newcastle imo. Think he'd have his sights set higher. Similarily don't think De Zerbi wouldve joined if relegation was confirmed even with the mega contract.
IF relegated, I don’t know if I want him to manage us in that league. You need strong mentality and leaders and a good knowledge of that leagues teams and players. I have little to no hope our clown car of a board and scouting would adapt to such a level. You need manager who knows the league and our fans will have to adjust their expectations whilst we sign players to do the job in this league - will sign more internet lookup players than ever before but tell you now, they’ll run through walls to play for us, unlike the silky powder puff excuses for players we currently have. Give me Hayden Hackney any day in our midfield.
Only the gullible think he is staying
He wouldn't be giving up £60m. It's not like if he left us he would decide to just sit around watching homes under the hammer for the five years he would have been with us. He'll just pick up another job earning a shit ton of money.
Not for £60m over 5 years, that's the point
It wasn't the point you made. He's not giving up £60m if he resigns is he. He's just giving up the difference between what we pay him and whatever his next job pays him.
I think it would have to be a pretty large difference to convince him to stay considering he's looked like a hostage every time he's talked since joining us.
Did we at any stage look like really going for it in that game. Like for example how Leeds were up for it yday. Surely the manager, coaches, players and all the board if they watched Leeds last night must be embarrassed and ashamed of what they have all done. The players defo should look at that and think have they put the same effort in and played for the fans. Who pay the highest prices in the PL yet the players have only provided 2 home wins all season. How can they look in the mirror. Heads need to roll with compo. In hindsight we should kept Ange for first 3 months at least. No point replacing him with someone inferior like Frank. I wanted Ange gone but not for Frank. We needed a serious upgrade to take us forward. At best Frank would have just kept us a float playing shit football. Is that what the club really wanted. Sure wasnt what the fans wanted. Gross mid management and negligence by those in charge.
Yeh I can’t see many paying him near £12m per year. He is about as proven as Pochettino that sort of level, he isn’t Klopp or Pep. We are overpaying him which means any club getting him would have to be big and desperate like us.
That's assuming he walks into another job straight away and that's assuming he gets paid anywhere near to what we are paying him.
You don't get it, walking away from that much money is a risk in itself because of the above factors, contracts like that don't just magic out of thin air you know.
The advantage De Zerbi has in accepting the job now, is that come next season (whichever league we are in) he would have had six games and many training sessions to assess who he wants to keep going into nest season.
He possibly already knows which players will be going, those likely to want to force a move and may already be planning for transfer targets give a worse case scenario.
I think it's good to have a manager preview the attitude, ability, and reliability of players before a summer. Had enough of new managers coming in and thinking the likes of Kaboul/Capoute/Adebayor are "the leadership team" and not the toxic crew, and in this instance whatever our current titanic crew is
Like a pre-season for pre-season. Sensible.
I mean anyone with eyes can see who the lazy, problem players are. It's harder to see who isn't lol.
Anyone with eyes might have concluded that Vertonghen was one of those pre-Poch, it's not just a case of deducing who's been shit and apathetic to now, some of them are redeemable and it needs to be established who they are.
I think a lot bridges were burned with this squad both ways when a siege mentality was developed against our own fans, that stupid huddle at HT to walk off the pitch in solidarity, and a fucking idiot gaffer that was a wallaby's whisker away from having a full on punch up with the fans on more than one occasion...
Some of these players have seen that and gotten a chip on their shoulder that makes remaining here untenable I think.
So true!!
This all falls back on levy for hiring or allowing that idiot to be hired in the first place. Having Postecoglou as manager for 2 years has destroyed this club. He shouldn't have even been given the second year after the fall off from the first 10 games, it was obvious.
It's a massive shame that Forest didn't keep him longer.
Man united bound probably
Probably…there will be plenty of interest
Team selection against Sunderland was a big red flag. No time for fuck ups like that. Xavi has to play, Tel has to play and Richarlison must be CF.