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Player Rodrigo Bentancur

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justin said:
They are a big part of the problem just like the owners . We have finished 17th two seasons in a row. So evidently they are a problem .
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Part of the problem yes but any team in the world can looks terrible when it is led by 2 consecutive managers that are completely clueless, disorganised and uninspiring.

Essentially we have been a PL team run by a Sunday league setup the past 2 seasons and in the PL the margins are very fine.

You are very angry and rightly so but bleating on about selling the entire squad except Kinsky and danso is going to get you nowhere. What are you going to do next season when we still have at least 12 of the current playing squad still at the club?
 
Notabadsquad said:
Much as I think some of the comments about our players during the season were way over the top, I also think a lot of them are smeared by the last 2 seasons, and whether integral or bit part, that is problematic

Iread next to nothing into the last 7 games other than the fact we found a way to pick up the points we needed in order to survive.

If we were so good we would not be seeking to bring in what appear to be a number of new players.
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Not saying we were amazing in those 7 games and certainly not saying we don’t need new players, but the results weren’t flukes and we stopped conceding loads of chances and generally only conceded one goal. In the last four months prior we conceded at least two goals every game which made it so tough to pick up points
 
Teach said:
Not saying we were amazing in those 7 games and certainly not saying we don’t need new players, but the results weren’t flukes and we stopped conceding loads of chances and generally only conceded one goal. In the last four months prior we conceded at least two goals every game which made it so tough to pick up points
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I agree. We were by no means peak Barcelona but what RDZ achieved (with the players help) is remarkable.
We had a tight defence, could play better football and actually keep it having more possession in every game (I think?). The attack was horrific but we did enough.

This was all achieved with the same squad that hadn't won in months and without RDZ really changing too much. He kept it simple and basic.

Adding the players he wants and a full pre season Im sure that at least a few of these same players will be unrecognisable next season. People to are too quick to go from 'oh hes brilliant' to 'hes shit, get him out the club'.

Next year we will be top 3 in terms of football quality i am certain of that and that will be with alot of these same players
 
justin said:
Has he fuck. Our best player has been kinksy.
After that probably Danso. Which isn’t saying much. Remember we literally fell over the line to stay up, got very lucky.
Bentencur has offered very little. It’s been a very forgetful few years with him He needs to be moved on. It’s time for a new start .
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lol. We dominated the midfield in every single game pretty much and he was a huge part of them whilst allowing very very few chances again him being a huge part of that. He was world class under conte and is a very talented player. We would spend insane money trying to replace him with a player as ready made as him. But you probably think Bergvall is “way better” bentacur right now
 
djchotspur said:
lol. We dominated the midfield in every single game pretty much and he was a huge part of them whilst allowing very very few chances again him being a huge part of that. He was world class under conte and is a very talented player. We would spend insane money trying to replace him with a player as ready made as him. But you probably think Bergvall is “way better” bentacur right now
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Ha ha ha ha … world class my arse . Jesus fucking Christ get a grip
 
Doom_Spur said:
Part of the problem yes but any team in the world can looks terrible when it is led by 2 consecutive managers that are completely clueless, disorganised and uninspiring.

Essentially we have been a PL team run by a Sunday league setup the past 2 seasons and in the PL the margins are very fine.

You are very angry and rightly so but bleating on about selling the entire squad except Kinsky and danso is going to get you nowhere. What are you going to do next season when we still have at least 12 of the current playing squad still at the club?
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There has to be major changes amongst senior personnel.

Ange was majorly flawed, but the players liked him.

Frank was awful on every level.

However it was 2 different playstyles which tells me the composition/chemistry of the players is just plain bad.

I don’t even think the players as individuals are particularly bad, but as a collective, the group is short on passing ability and IQ.

Out of the whole squad, I think it’s only Romero (going), Maddison (won’t be firing properly until the new year), & Kulusevski (not a factor) who are capable of slowing the game to their own pace and passing well.
 
TeamSpirit™ said:
There has to be major changes amongst senior personnel.

Ange was majorly flawed, but the players liked him.

Frank was awful on every level.

However it was 2 different playstyles which tells me the composition/chemistry of the players is just plain bad.

I don’t even think the players as individuals are particularly bad, but as a collective, the group is short on passing ability and IQ.

Out of the whole squad, I think it’s only Romero (going), Maddison (won’t be firing properly until the new year), & Kulusevski (not a factor) who are capable of slowing the game to their own pace and passing well.
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Ange didn't and doesn't know what an elite EPL player is, Frank doesn't know anything. I have spent way too much time listening to what they both had to say in tactical break downs of their playing philosophy and team setups. They are both absolutely nothing burgers. With Ange at least genuinely wanting his horribly flawed football to attack the oponent.

But your point is spot on because these manifestly flawed coaches have helped along side Flange to construct the mother of all utterly unbalanced clusterf**ks.

Fifty million on Brennan Johnson, the sale of Keeley to be replaced with Kinsky, the stockpile of Gallagher,Sarr, Bissouma, Bentancur, Grey, Bergvall, the sale of Dier to buy Radu Dragusin. 60 million on Solanke when your other number nine is Richarlison, the purchase after a failed loan of Matty Tel, and adding a totally disinterested Randall Kolo Muani. The use of Porro, having him Lump the ball down the channel in lieu of ball progression. This is next level footballing illiteracy.
 
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Doom_Spur said:
I agree. We were by no means peak Barcelona but what RDZ achieved (with the players help) is remarkable.
We had a tight defence, could play better football and actually keep it having more possession in every game (I think?). The attack was horrific but we did enough.

This was all achieved with the same squad that hadn't won in months and without RDZ really changing too much. He kept it simple and basic.

Adding the players he wants and a full pre season Im sure that at least a few of these same players will be unrecognisable next season. People to are too quick to go from 'oh hes brilliant' to 'hes shit, get him out the club'.

Next year we will be top 3 in terms of football quality i am certain of that and that will be with alot of these same players
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Way over the top.

Reason to be optimistic and hopeful but our football quality improving dramatically and a number of last season's players being part of that, I am less certain.

Let's see what the turnover is like and how quickly it is put together, and then go from there.

We escaped and played a bit better. We could hardly have looked worse.
 
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