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Management Ryan Mason - Has he been sacked yet ?

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Fuck me. That's 25 grand a cone!

I like Mason, he seems like a good guy, but we're not good enough and I genuinely don't know if he fits anymore.
Hehe I nearly put "earns £250k* putting out cones" but I thought that was mean. I think he's probably an adequate part of the coaching team but we definitely need some proper tactical coaches.

Most of us hated the drilled rigidity of Mourinho and Conte but the other extreme is a liability.


* A pure guess
 
According to Gold, Christian Stellani was our defensive set piece coach the previous 2 years, and also he and Conte changed from man marking to Zonal during their time here. And there was nothing too poor about our defending of corners under Conte.

which is exactly the same as what's happening now, no defensive set piece coach, just someone of the coaching team handles it as well as their other coaching.

also Ryan Mason is nothing to do with defensive set pieces. Also of interest i thought is that Villa are statistically worse at set pieces than us this season .

But there you go anyway, Stellani is still out of a job so we can get him back if you like
No. I'd like a competent set piece coach
 
Hehe I nearly put "earns £250k* putting out cones" but I thought that was mean. I think he's probably an adequate part of the coaching team but we definitely need some proper tactical coaches.

Most of us hated the drilled rigidity of Mourinho and Conte but the other extreme is a liability.


* A pure guess
It's not mean if we're losing and playing like dogshit. That's why he gets the big money. We have to have *somewhere* to pour our frustration.

Genuinely, I have no idea what he brings to us. I'd love to see his job description.
 
the point is, youd get it it was a big ex player as they at the very least demand respect. mason doesnt, he hasnt earned the right to have an important role in any way shape or form.
Right, but you have no evidence that he isn't a decent coach other than he wasn't a great player - which, again, means nothing. You don't know that he hasn't earned the right to have a role. What he does as a coach is behind closed doors, so unless you're monitoring training you're merely speculating that he's not a good coach out of general frustration and preconceived notions because you don't like the cut of his jib.

I honestly can't recall another coach being discussed like this on this forum. Just weird, honestly.
 
Right, but you have no evidence that he isn't a decent coach other than he wasn't a great player - which, again, means nothing. You don't know that he hasn't earned the right to have a role. What he does as a coach is behind closed doors, so unless you're monitoring training you're merely speculating that he's not a good coach out of general frustration and preconceived notions because you don't like the cut of his jib.

I honestly can't recall another coach being discussed like this on this forum. Just weird, honestly.

Some on here are just hateful, same way they were towards Harry Winks.

Conte and Ange have both deemed Mason good enough to be on their staff. That’s good enough for me.
 
Right, but you have no evidence that he isn't a decent coach other than he wasn't a great player - which, again, means nothing. You don't know that he hasn't earned the right to have a role. What he does as a coach is behind closed doors, so unless you're monitoring training you're merely speculating that he's not a good coach out of general frustration and preconceived notions because you don't like the cut of his jib.

I honestly can't recall another coach being discussed like this on this forum. Just weird, honestly.
youre the exact type of person they bank on having support from. fucking naive. how could he of earned it? hes 32, no previous experience where hes worked his way up...the football has been shit for years (bar moments from kane individual brilliance etc)... how the fuck has he earned his role. hes there out of sympathy its as simple as that. but yea, lets let 32 year old ryan mason with fuck all experience continue with an important role at a club that generates top 10 revenue in the world. get little winksy in next when he has a career ending injury.

id expect a club like tottenham to have some of the best coaches in the world...they generate the revenue to warrant that...you telling me that ryan mason is that?

if we was norwich it would be acceptable...its meant to be tottenham hotspur. billion pound stadium, 'meant' to be fighting for major honours, pulls in more money than 99.9% of clubs...handing out important roles to unqualified people...stinks!

you wouldnt see man united give luke chadwick an important coaching role and they are a shambles.

more spursyness...son captain, ryan mason assistant coach spursyyyyyyy
 
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youre the exact type of person they bank on having support from. fucking naive. how could he of earned it? hes 32, no previous experience where hes worked his way up...the football has been shit for years (bar moments from kane individual brilliance etc)... how the fuck has he earned his role. hes there out of sympathy its as simple as that. but yea, lets let 32 year old ryan mason with fuck all experience continue with an important role at a club that generates top 10 revenue in the world. get little winksy in next when he has a career ending injury.

id expect a club like tottenham to have some of the best coaches in the world...they generate the revenue to warrant that...you telling me that ryan mason is that?

if we was norwich it would be acceptable...its meant to be tottenham hotspur. billion pound stadium, 'meant' to be fighting for major honours, pulls in more money than 99.9% of clubs...handing out important roles to unqualified people...stinks!

you wouldnt see man united give luke chadwick an important coaching role and they are a shambles.

more spursyness...son captain, ryan mason assistant coach spursyyyyyyy
United employs a Craig Mowson as GK coach, who spent his career in League 2 and until 2019 was an academy coach at Burnley. And their attacking coach is Benni McCarthy, the "storied" Blackburn forward for all of 3 seasons.

Liverpool has Pepijn Linders who never even played senior football, was a coach for AVB at Porto then went to Liverpool under Rodgers and hasn't left.

I don't have time to turn over other teams' rocks, but suffice to say you're completely wrong about what it takes to be a good coach and how clubs go about identifying and hiring coaches. Being a great top flight player doesn't mean you'll make a good coach, and, statistically, actually makes it less likely.

On the list of reasons we've had a shit spring, Mason is nearer the bottom than the top.
 
If it were true that Mason was just an extension of Levy and Daniel required Conte and Ange to put him on the staff, each of them would have had Mason standing outside the shower waiting to snap up the used towels after training.

The fact that both coaches have given him an “important” role shows that he’s doing something well. Whether that transitions to becoming a top manager or not is to be determined (at any level). There are so many great assistants that never make it as the head man across many different sports.
 
United employs a Craig Mowson as GK coach, who spent his career in League 2 and until 2019 was an academy coach at Burnley. And their attacking coach is Benni McCarthy, the "storied" Blackburn forward for all of 3 seasons.

Liverpool has Pepijn Linders who never even played senior football, was a coach for AVB at Porto then went to Liverpool under Rodgers and hasn't left.

I don't have time to turn over other teams' rocks, but suffice to say you're completely wrong about what it takes to be a good coach and how clubs go about identifying and hiring coaches. Being a great top flight player doesn't mean you'll make a good coach, and, statistically, actually makes it less likely.

On the list of reasons we've had a shit spring, Mason is nearer the bottom than the top.
Don't think denigrating a CL winner and title winner in a couple of different leagues is the way to defend a player who never kicked a ball for his country or in the CL and who left here to join Hull.

Also think you'll find both McCarthy and Linders have worked for several teams in their coaching careers, not been given a role at one club they used to play for.
 
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