You'd think? It reminds me of the poster on here earlier who said they became more calm when they saw Werner was being subbed on- they knew we'd lose and didn't have to worry about the outcome anymore




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You'd think? It reminds me of the poster on here earlier who said they became more calm when they saw Werner was being subbed on- they knew we'd lose and didn't have to worry about the outcome anymore
Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted was what I was aiming for , clearly it didn’t land. I never actually watched the clipI gotta be honest- I quit around minute two without finding a definite punchline or point, though it was strangely entertaining?
We were extremely unlucky, we should have won at least 5-0, Wermer hit the post twice, perfect Richy goal disallowed and denied 2 pens.First game I had to fully miss in a while. Not that gutted, obvs.
Any positives?
That he wins a Trophy in his second season is fact, but I have never heard him set that as an objective here, I have heard him say winning a Cup or finishing top four isn't an achievement though in the long term of things.Last 25 PL games: 11 W - 3 D - 11 L. Knowing our wins included mighty Sheffield, Forest, Luton, Burnley, Palace (last season) and Everton, Utd and Spam (this season). Brighton & Villa were also struggling when we defeated them last season.
We can't beat big teams, win derbies, win away, keep clean sheets. We've had many a dire performance under this supposedly exciting manager & system. We were seconds away from losing to shitty Coventry. We were shite vs Qarabag, Ferencvaros and AZ...three teams who are Champo level. We keep making the same dumb mistakes time & time again. He's arrogant, rude, stubborn.
That's damning. He just ain't good enough. Go cough & look menacing elsewhere.
Nasty Crusty Palace went and put a £69m buyout price on his head....I am all for buying youth and players for the future, but we are full of them now, we need a leader of the team not a prospect that will, maybe, could be good.
What happened to Eze over the Summer that ended up us getting Odobert?
And what im saying is we're still not getting the results enough when we are playing well!! Were not getting the results playing bad either!I'm not sure what your point is though. Yes, sometimes you play bad and still win - we did it a lot under Jose at the beginning of a season a few years back if remember rightly? But so what? That's more good fortune than anything else. I'd rather have good performances. I mean obviously I'd rather win games, but over time, i.e. over 38 games most seasons, it is the best football that has played the best football that has the most points. So yes, sometimes you can play badly and win, but we've not really been in a position to test that this season (in my opinion, today is the first game we've 'played badly', and we've not gotten lucky and won it - but it's just one game, it doesn't signify anything).
i've been rick rolledClosing the stable door after the horse has bolted was what I was aiming for , clearly it didn’t land. I never actually watched the clip
Oh man I temporarily forgot he had said that. Making blatantly hubristic statements like that is like asking the Universe itself to arrange itself against you and put you in your place. I hate when people I am close with say things like that publicly because you know you're being (publicly; dramatically) setup for a huge failure.That he wins a Trophy in his second season is fact, but I have never heard him set that as an objective here, I have heard him say winning a Cup or finishing top four isn't an achievement though in the long term of things.
Making statements like this removes responsibility from the results he presides over.
So many teams we "outplay" and win null points.When you say "again", which games are you adding it to? We were awful today, worst league performance of this season by far. But 'again'? When did we last have a 'poor, poor game' in the league? We were excellent 1st half against Brighton, then threw it away in the 2nd half. We outplayed Newcastle and were very unlucky to lose there. I thought we were pretty good against woolwich, certainly not 'poor'. So what do you mean by 'again'? :/
I agree. But so what? You can't do anything about either of those things. Over the long term, playing well usually does result in winning games, and I'm sure it will for us too. But playing badly and winning, that's some kind of dark arts that no one really understands. As i said before, under Jose didn't we start a season with loads of results that we didn't deserve? Weren't we top in early November that season? But, predictably, it wasn't sustainable, we fell apart for the rest of the season. To win consistently over the long term, you need to play well, that's the (pretty obvious) key. So performances are very important. Yes, I'd love so scrape a result that we don't deserve sometimes, but playing well over the long term is much more important for success - and for me, this season, we've mostly been playing very well.And what im saying is we're still not getting the results enough when we are playing well!! Were not getting the results playing bad either!
I get some people saying Coventry but that was a weakened team , we were full strength today but palace wanted it more , that is not an ability problem that’s a mentality problem , let’s hope Ange can fix itAbsolutely this. All of it. We were rubbish today, for the first time this season, in the league anyway. Hopefully just a bad day at the office, and hopefully therefore we'll be much better next week.![]()
Sahin not sure he would change much he is still new to coaching
Fascinating analogies.So many teams we "outplay" and win null points.
Spurs are the UK of the European Song Contest, sound pretty good in rehearsals but live they sound like fingernails being dragged down a chalkboard.
Ange will win nothing with us, nothing, and he can say as many patronizing "mates" as he wants in his suck my dick prezzer meetings.
Bob the builder couldn’t fix usI get some people saying Coventry but that was a weakened team , we were full strength today but palace wanted it more , that is not an ability problem that’s a mentality problem , let’s hope Ange can fix it
He offers nothing unless he gets on the end of a cross for a tap in. When you want out ball he is not your man. Too weak, not commited enough and never wants to beat a man. As for his general passing less said the better.
It true, when he's not scoring, it seems like he's not doing very much. I wish he would take his man on down the line much more- we are missing some directness in our running.He offers nothing unless he gets on the end of a cross for a tap in. When you want out ball he is not your man. Too weak, not commited enough and never wants to beat a man. As for his general passing less said the better.
Great i hope we continue to play this well and finish 12th.I agree. But so what? You can't do anything about either of those things. Over the long term, playing well usually does result in winning games, and I'm sure it will for us too. But playing badly and winning, that's some kind of dark arts that no one really understands. As i said before, under Jose didn't we start a season with loads of results that we didn't deserve? Weren't we top in early November that season? But, predictably, it wasn't sustainable, we fell apart for the rest of the season. To win consistently over the long term, you need to play well, that's the (pretty obvious) key. So performances are very important. Yes, I'd love so scrape a result that we don't deserve sometimes, but playing well over the long term is much more important for success - and for me, this season, we've mostly been playing very well.
Eze was right there and we dropped the ball.That he wins a Trophy in his second season is fact, but I have never heard him set that as an objective here, I have heard him say winning a Cup or finishing top four isn't an achievement though in the long term of things.
Making statements like this removes responsibility from the results he presides over.
I can't say that we look any more solid, robust or different than last season when you actually look at our overall results.
I am all for buying youth and players for the future, but we are full of them now, we need a leader of the team not a prospect that will, maybe, could be good.
Without rubbing salt in the wounds, Woolwich went and shored up their midfield with Rice, the cost was irrelevant they knew who they wanted and went and got him.
What happened to Eze over the Summer that ended up us getting Odobert?
There’s no way Levy is spending 60 million-plus on a forward and then another near 70 million on a player to split time with Maddison.What happened to Eze over the Summer that ended up us getting Odobert?