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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?

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Who to replace Ange?

  • Andoni Iraola

  • Edin Terzic

  • Graham Potter

  • Thomas Frank

  • Marco Silva

  • Kieran McKenna

  • Ryan Mason (Full Time)

  • Michel

  • Xavi

  • Mauricio Pochettino

  • Dino Toppmoller

  • Simone Inzaghi

  • Sean Dyche (Click here if you're an idiot)

  • No-one (Ange new contract)

  • Oliver Glasner

  • Vincenzo Italiano

  • Vitor Pereira

  • Scott Parker

  • Will Still

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John Duncan said:
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To be completely fair :

When OGS said that a few years ago he was referring to Man Utd in the recent era .

To put things in perspective:,

Since KB left ; in 38 odd years we’d won precisely two ( 2) League Cups
( in 38 odd years ) .

In the same space of time Man Utd had won :

13 Premier League titles

8 FA Cups

6 League Cups

12 Charity Shiejds ( incl shared ) .

2 European Cups / Champions League

1 Uefa Cup / Europa League

1 European Super Cup

1 World Club Cup

That’s 32 ( thirty-two ) trophies ( 44 if you include the Charity Shiejds ) .

How on EARTH would OGS’s comments apply to us ie our Club ?

To remind you ; in that space of time we won 2 (two ) League Cups . (For which I will forever be grateful for btw ) .

Sorry Fella ; but citing OGS
(talking about Man Utd over the past 40 odd years ) and thinking it applies equivalently to our Club ; is just plain wrong or just utter madness; take your pick .
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For heaven’s sake, how do any Spurs fan dare to be ambition and think big by quoting a former head-coach of Man Utd. who think big.
Man Utd won the EPL last time back in 2012 and the CL last time in 2008. But they still think big.
Maybe instead you could post some inspirational quotes about ambitions from clubs like Brentford, Hull, Brighton, Crystal P., Bristol City etc…

So this is how you think then:
“Now that Spurs have finally won a cup trophy, they should not at all worry about the poor league form and finishing 17th in the EPL. This cup win papers over all that went wrong last season. How dare Spurs think like a big club!”
 
Pathfinder said:
For heaven’s sake, how do any Spurs fan dare to be ambition and think big by quoting a former head-coach of Man Utd. who think big.
Man Utd won the EPL last time back in 2012 and the CL last time in 2008. But they still think big.
Maybe instead you could post some inspirational quotes about ambitions from clubs like Brentford, Hull, Brighton, Crystal P., Bristol City etc…

So this is how you think then:
“Now that Spurs have finally won a cup trophy, they should not at all worry about the poor league form and finishing 17th in the EPL. This cup win papers over all that went wrong last season. How dare Spurs think like a big club!”
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The problem is your argument is that you're ignoring what happened in the past and you're conflating what Utd were doing compared to what we are doing, It's a total false equivalence.

Firstly Utd have far higher expectation than us, their remit is to be winning Leagues and CL's, the odd cup win for them doesn't prove anything because they are used to winning, the odd cup win does much more for us because as a club we needed to get over the line and change the mentality and the fortunes of the club so that we can start to believe we can win.

Secondly as you know we were challenging for the league before and got to the CL final, where exactly did it get us? Because the very likelihood is that under ENIC that we won't ever see a title challenge again unless they pull their finger out (which would never happen) and if we will see one we'd have to hit the jackpot once again with a manager like Poch and all the stars need to align for us and even if we get up there do you really trust the board to sustain it?, I don't.

So whilst the poor league for was shit for a club our size, the upside was finally winning a trophy, getting the monkey off our back and another season of CL football, it was a success in that regard.
 
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Shadydan said:
The problem is your argument is that you're ignoring what happened in the past and you're conflating what Utd were doing compared to what we are doing, It's a total false equivalence.

Firstly Utd have far higher expectation than us, their remit is to be winning Leagues and CL's, the odd cup win for them doesn't prove anything because they are used to winning, the odd cup win does a much more for us because as a club we needed to get over the line and change the mentality and the fortunes of the club so that we can start to believe we can win.

Secondly as you know we were challenging for the league before and got to the CL final, where exactly did it get us? Because the very likelihood is that under ENIC that we won't ever see a title challenge again unless they pull their finger out (which would never happen) and if we will see one we'd have to hit the jackpot once again with a manager like Poch and all the start need to align for us and even if we get up there do you really trust the board to sustain it?, I don't.

So whilst the poor league for was shit for a club our size, the upside was finally winning a trophy, getting the monkey off our back and another season of CL football, it was a success in that regard.
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Sadly you’re probably right, aiming for a trophy in the EL and fucking the league is about where we are, thank fuck it came off. That being said my happiest time as a Spurs fan was during the Poch era, by far the best football in the whole league not just with us and players growing into footballers I never thought they could become, not getting a PL or CL was hard to take but it won’t dull my memories of the 16/17 season when we went unbeaten at WHL and could legitimately beat anyone in world football.

I think the issue is we are a very big club. Even Woolwich fans admit we are, just a very underperforming big club. Very few clubs can get quarter of a million fans for a trophy parade on a day or twos notice, very few can sell out Wembley week after week, we can.

We just have a business model that is just about as unambitious as it could be. Only ever spend what you earn if that, no investment despite being called the English National investment company even if the asset value is balloning and you will make a killing with a sale while rivals have either oil money or in the case of Forest/Villa/Brighton owners that will invest a decent amount knowing they will make major hay in years to come.

A club our size should be more than able to dream of signing Mbeumo or Cherki or Gyokeres but we knows its going to be Dibling and Gomes. We have a chairman who is in desperate need of being visited by 3 ghosts.

There is nothing I have seen that has made me think getting rid of Levy and ENIC won’t improve us.
 
The topic is who replaces Ange, if it happens. My first choice is Glasner, second choice is Xavi (If he is interested and not just after a pay day).. They are talking about Thomas Frank which to start with I wasn't against... But the more I think about It i just think it would be Nuno all over again... I just think Glasner is classy, on and off the pitch and he has the full support of his players.
 
Pathfinder said:
For heaven’s sake, how do any Spurs fan dare to be ambition and think big by quoting a former head-coach of Man Utd. who think big.
Man Utd won the EPL last time back in 2012 and the CL last time in 2008. But they still think big.
Maybe instead you could post some inspirational quotes about ambitions from clubs like Brentford, Hull, Brighton, Crystal P., Bristol City etc…

So this is how you think then:
“Now that Spurs have finally won a cup trophy, they should not at all worry about the poor league form and finishing 17th in the EPL. This cup win papers over all that went wrong last season. How dare Spurs think like a big club!”
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I hear you .

But because the Mancs and the Arse won the lottery ( with their choice of managers ) and then “ caught the wind “ once the whole Sky / Premier League break-away happened ; We were left trailing in their wake . A very , very bitter pill to swallow.

If we’re going to turn things around: a first ( single) significant trophy after 41 years shouldn’t be taken lightly.

OGS won ten plus medals at Man U under SAF ; in an era when SAF brought 32 trophies back to OT .

No wonder OGS wouldn’t consider a single trophy for MU to be a “ a back in the big-time “
moment . I totally get what you’re saying there .

But for US it does matter a lot in fact. Because that UEFA / Europa League Cup ; hopefully proves to be
OUR “ launch pad “ .

As Mao Zhe Dong said , all those years ago ; “ Tbe Longest Journey Starts With the First Step “ .
 
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Inzaghi has been managing at the top level nonstop for a decade now. He might need a break from the game to recharge himself. The fact that he's even entertaining these Saudi offers is pretty telling in this regard, even if he doesn't end up over there.

The last time we dragged here a mentally exhausted manager was Nuno, who clearly needed a break after all those years with Wolves. He wasn't going to work out no matter what, but his state of mind at the time certainly didn't help.
 
I’ve just got a funny feeling in my bones that Paratici thinks he can get Inzaghi if they win the CL on Sat. Probably a mic drop moment for Inzaghi and Inter will have to sell and rebuild.

Would explain why Levy has been holding off on the Ange decision.
 
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I’ve just got a funny feeling in my bones that Paratici thinks he can get Inzaghi if they win the CL on Sat. Probably a mic drop moment for Inzaghi and Inter will have to sell and rebuild.

Would explain why Levy has been holding off on the Ange decision.
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Can't imagine Levy wanting him really, pat might like him but not sure Levy is feeling that kind of money outlay on coach after Jose and Conte.
Also I dont think he can speak a lick of English, it really isn't ideal for the squad to work with him smoothly. It's not like Poch who could kinda speak it at Southampton but chose not to publicly.
Suppose Vicario would have to be his translator and he could just ignore Levy's bollox so that's an upside .
 
Kaz Hirai said:
Can't imagine Levy wanting him really, pat might like him but not sure Levy is feeling that kind of money outlay on coach after Jose and Conte.
Also I dont think he can speak a lick of English, it really isn't ideal for the squad to work with him smoothly. It's not like Poch who could kinda speak it at Southampton but chose not to publicly.
Suppose Vicario would have to be his translator and he could just ignore Levy's bollox so that's an upside .
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Maybe. I think there was a rumour going around a while back that he was learning English. I don’t think he’s got much of a rep for improving young players so that’s something that would be an awkward fit given the profile of the squad.

Given the lack of managerial talent out there at the moment l, if he was interested in the PL, Levy would have to be seriously thick not to consider it.
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
I’ve just got a funny feeling in my bones that Paratici thinks he can get Inzaghi if they win the CL on Sat. Probably a mic drop moment for Inzaghi and Inter will have to sell and rebuild.

Would explain why Levy has been holding off on the Ange decision.
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I’d bet the house we were putting out feelers for new managers leading up to the Europa final. The longer this drags out the more likely Ange stays.
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
I’ve just got a funny feeling in my bones that Paratici thinks he can get Inzaghi if they win the CL on Sat. Probably a mic drop moment for Inzaghi and Inter will have to sell and rebuild.

Would explain why Levy has been holding off on the Ange decision.
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Everyone seems to be raving about him, if he did come what could we expect from his style of play, and could he work under the same ENIC that big name like Jose and Conte struggled with?
 
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