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glad to hear it.

i assumed we would have had the same deal.

by the way. is this a case of corruption or incompetence?

Very much a case of both..
The original deal was as corrupt as hell in the fact that that the Mayor of Newham, who approved the original £40m loan, is a West Ham season ticket holder..
He gave them £40m of taxpayers money when many businesses, schools and people could have benefitted much more..
To make them pay just £15m of a £272m conversion is as incompetent as you can get..just think how many struggling people could have benefitted from that sort of money and yet it's gone to a sports club that pay minimal rent in return and wil,use the stadium 25 times a year.
Barry Hearn has been spot on from day one..
 
Yeah, I forgot that sharing that our scouts are watching a football team in a European competition means I am a football expert.

Slice? I'm still waiting on your Mothers hot ass to get here so we can fuck off to some Roma forum. Ciao.

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When European Football Experts Die On Their Arse Part 1.

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Can someone point me towards the Poch quotes where he said neither Lennon or Adebayor would play for Tottenham again. Cheers mitts
Are you trying to make a point of some sort? They don't have a squad number...That must be pretty telling. Additionally I thought there was a quote that said Ade & Lennon weren't in his plans. I'm a drunk though so who fucking knows.
 
Very much a case of both..
The original deal was as corrupt as hell in the fact that that the Mayor of Newham, who approved the original £40m loan, is a West Ham season ticket holder..
He gave them £40m of taxpayers money when many businesses, schools and people could have benefitted much more..
To make them pay just £15m of a £272m conversion is as incompetent as you can get..just think how many struggling people could have benefitted from that sort of money and yet it's gone to a sports club that pay minimal rent in return and wil,use the stadium 25 times a year.
Barry Hearn has been spot on from day one..
It's nice to see people kicking up a fuss about this over there. Public funding for stadiums happens all the time in America and it's pretty fucking disgraceful. Especially when some communities put so much into a team and initially build a stadium and then get held for ransom later on. There are plenty of owners that say update my facilities/build me a new stadium or we are relocating. It's fucking disgusting.

EDIT: And just for emphasis, it's not after 30+ years or something. Some owners are doing this after less than 20. It's insane...
In America the whole capitalistic bullshit has pitted even local jurisdictions & counties against each other to try and court professional teams with tax write offs, etc in order to land a deal. At what cost to local infrastructure?! It's fuckin weird.. I don't mean to get on a soap box or anything, sorry.
 
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Are you trying to make a point of some sort? They don't have a squad number...That must be pretty telling. Additionally I thought there was a quote that said Ade & Lennon weren't in his plans. I'm a drunk though so who fucking knows.
No agenda mate. Genuinely curious if he actually said they wouldn't be involved or if people on here had just figured as they don't have a squad number they won't be. Hope you're having a good night!
 
Yes, and? Bought him from Athletico Madrid.
Who are you to fucking question. If you actually read the quote it states we used to buy international quality so I responded by saying Alderweireld is. I don't see where buying him from matters. It's Atletico by the way, don't make that mistake again now you've been taught. Good lad.
 
My assumption is based on how these things actually work, here with me in the real world of multiparty negotiations. Your "summit talks" assumption isn't based on very much of anything outside of your head. So our assumptions are not entitled to equal weight.

Yes Im sure you are there, under the table, while we frantically try to sign Berahino
 
Not trying to be funny but I could swear I remember reading an article that Levy barely negotiates at all until the transfer is getting near the finish line. I think it said that Darren Eales did a lot of the negotiating back when he was Director of Football Administration. Plus, we also know based on pictures and reports of him meeting other club's representatives that Baldini did a fair share of negotiation as well.

EDIT: Article on Eales noting him as a key negotiator and singling out his role during the Bale deal. http://atlutd.com/mls-atlanta-announces-darren-eales-as-club-president/

Also, didn't Levy just get back from vacation in Florida? Presumably the club didn't have the closed sign out in his absence. The scuttlebutt has always been that since the illness of his wife that Levy has had less day to day responsibility on the footballing side of things. Everything still requires his approval but he doesn't have the same level of day to day involvement. I'm sure we have a wide array of people who negotiate and work the transfer phones. No club or company as big as Tottenham would have only one person negotiate. Especially with all the business related stuff Levy has been doing recently. Plus we have about 39393595 technical, executive, and non-executive directors who have to be up to something.


Tottenham transfer secrets revealed: Daniel Levy is one of football's fiercest negotiators... here's how his extraordinary bargaining has infuriated rival teams
  • Daniel Levy incensed West Ham with his deadline day negotiating methods
  • He refused to let Emmanuel Adebayor join a perceived top four rival
  • His tactics meant Tottenham got a world record fee for Gareth Bale
  • Click here for all the latest Tottenham Hotspur news
By NEIL ASHTON FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:06 GMT, 6 February 2015 | UPDATED: 18:41 GMT, 6 February 2015

Around an hour before kick-off in the north London derby, Daniel Levy will welcome a delegation of Woolwich officials into his spacious boardroom at White Hart Lane.

The conversation with Woolwich’s chief executive Ivan Gazidis will be polite and cordial, barely scratching the surface before Levy sits down for pre-match brunch with a table full of Tottenham executives.

Later this month, when David Sullivan, David Gold and Karren Brady walk up the stairs of the West Stand on February 22, the atmosphere will be a little bit more chilly.

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Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy relishes the negotiating battle that comes with player transfers

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Levy blocked a loan move for striker Emmanuel Adebayor to rivals West Ham United on deadline day

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Levy's tactics when talking to West Ham irked Hammers executives David Gold and Karen Brady (right)

West Ham are tired of Levy, irritated by his negotiating tactics on transfer deadline day after he refused to allow Emmanuel Adebayor to move to Upton Park. They are in no rush to deal with him again.

Levy has an extraordinary reputation within the game and he is always willing to come to the table in the transfer window, so long as the terms are in Tottenham’s favour.

As one owner of a Barclays Premier League club told Sportsmail in the aftermath of deadline day: ‘Daniel likes to squeeze your balls until your eyes start to water’.

Levy comes alive in the window, spending hours on the phone to a network of agents.

Leon Angel, plus Gareth Bale’s representative Jonathan Barnett and his assistant David Manessah are all on speed dial as he plots Tottenham’s next move.

Levy was anointed by Tottenham’s principal owner Joe Lewis, who is also his godfather, when his investment vehicle ENIC bought the club from Sir Alan Sugar in 2001. All three are ruthless businessmen.

He is at the training ground most days, arriving anywhere between 8-8.30am to begin work.

Levy rises early, responding to text and WhatsApp messages long before he leaves the family home in Totteridge, north London, for the journey to the training centre.

It is there, at their magnificent new hub on the outskirts of Enfield, that Levy spent the day setting up deals by telephone and email last Monday.

He appointed Franco Baldini as technical director in 2013, partly to detach himself from the frenzied atmosphere at the club on deadline day. Two years on, he cannot resist.

‘Daniel never raises his voice or shouts, even when transfers or deals are at their most delicate stage,’ revealed the club’s former director of football Damien Comolli.

‘That is why he always wins, because others lose their temper or start shouting. He is a calculated guy and he is prepared to wait and wait.

‘Most people get nervous or anxious, but he enjoys the challenge. He is an excellent negotiator.’

When Robbie Keane went on loan to West Ham in January 2011, an argument over removal cost amounting to £5,000 nearly scuppered the deal. Levy squeezes the pips on everything.


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Damien Comolli (right) praised Levy for his composure when negotiating transfer deals for Spurs

He spends hours in his vault on the first floor during the transfer window, pacing up and down a spartanly furnished office hypothesising over potential transfers on a notepad on his desk.

Last Monday, when Levy swept into Tottenham’s training centre, he was ready for business. Deals were there to be done.

Delle Alli, who has earned comparisons to Frank Lampard in the scouting reports filed for the club’s new head of recruitment Paul Mitchell, was already on his way for a medical.

By then his football-mad son Josh, who works in the City for an investment bank, was asking people he has come across in the game whether Alli was good for the money. The day was starting to take shape.

West Ham and West Brom had both made enquiries for midfielder Etienne Capoue. Roma wanted to get something going for central defender Vlad Chiriches.

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Tottenham signed 18-year-old Dele Alli on transfer deadline day before loaning him back to MK Dons

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West Ham and West Brom had both asked about the availability of midfielder Etienne Capoue (left)

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Central defender Vlad Chiriches (left) had also caught the interest of Italian club Roma in Serie A

The pace picked up again when that nuisance Emmanuel Adebayor cropped up again in conversation.

There was an air of anticipation because Levy somehow had to convince the £100,000-a-week forward to swap a Capital One Cup final against Chelsea on March 1 for a relegation battle with QPR.

Rangers were desperate, calling up and offering to pay £75,000 towards Adebayor’s salary for the rest of the season.

Predictably he didn’t fancy it.

Later that afternoon, around 3pm, Adebayor’s agent Darren Dein, the son of former Woolwich vice-chairman David, believed he had devised a plan to suit all parties. West Ham would take him.

It is at this moment, against the advice of practically everybody involved in the decision-making process at White Hart Lane, Levy refused to cede any ground.

In the past, during negotiations to move to the Olympic Park for a year or to tenant Upton Park during the rebuilding of a new super-stadium at White Hart Lane, Brady felt he attempted to push her around.

Anyone who has ever come across West Ham’s chief executive will tell you that Brady is a formidable lady. She can look after herself.

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When Levy negotiated with Real Madrid for the Gareth Bale deal, Tottenham got a record transfer fee

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Bale (left) eventually signed for Real Madrid from Tottenham for a transfer fee of £86million

West Ham were offering to pay 50 per cent of Adebayor’s wages, £50,000-a-week, but Levy was well within his rights to point out the offer on the table from QPR. West Ham needed to up the ante.

With the clock ticking on deadline day, Levy also made it clear that he did not want to sell to a perceived rival for fourth place in the Barclays Premier League, or to leave his squad weaker than when the window closed.

Others felt differently, concerned that Adebayor’s dreadful attitude would affect the team’s rhythm in the run up to the Capital One Cup final at Wembley. Levy re-iterated that he calls the shots.

His behaviour, along with his bargaining position, infuriated West Ham and it prompted some stinging criticism from Gold via social media when the window closed at 11pm. There are no winners here.

There have been times when Levy has used reverse psychology, working a situation to his advantage to get the best possible deal for Tottenham.

In the summer of 2013, Real Madrid offered £55m up front for Bale. Levy told Tottenham’s board that he would not sell the forward, but Bale’s heart was already set on a move to the Bernabeu.

What followed was unusual for Levy, but he played the role of the junior partner in negotiations with Real’s president Florentino Perez in spectacular fashion.

Levy played him like a fiddle, deferring to Perez when he agreed to fly out to Madrid on a private jet on two separate occasions to negotiate the terms over Bale’s transfer from Spurs.

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Levy wants to see more homegrown players such as Harry Kane (centre) play in the Tottenham first team

When he emerged from dinner on the second occasion, Perez had agreed to pay a world record fee of £86m to sign Bale from White Hart Lane.

The dispute between the two clubs over the precise figures is because the transfer fee will be substanially less if Real can pay quicker than the five-year schedule agreed by Levy and Perez.

Occasionally Levy’s staff see a softer side and they were surprised when he agreed to take the ice-bucket challenge after he was nominated by Andre Villas-Boas last year.

Levy responded by nominating Perez, citing the departures of Luka Modric and Bale to Real Madrid over the past few years as the reasons behind his decision.

He can be generous too and he once delivered a Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (but not a 4S, which is more expensive) to Martin Jol’s home as a gesture of goodwill when Spurs were performing well under their Dutch coach.

Mostly, though, he is working on the serious business of making Spurs competitive and he has an almost pathological desire to reassert themselves in the top four.

With the rapid progress of Harry Kane and Ryan Mason, he wants John McDermott, academy manager and head of coaching, to bring more young players into the first team.

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Levy has also been delighted to see Ryan Mason (centre) make his way into the Tottenham senior squad

The decision to sign Alli from MK Dons is another sign that Tottenham are once again investing in raw talent.

In a few months time the transfer window will be on his radar and he can start to prepare for a serious turnover of playing staff before next season.

As ever, Levy will walk away with the feeling that he has the upper hand






So, just to clear things up, once again.

There is no transfer team
It was not Eales negotiating despite playing a "key role"
It is not Baldini negotiating
It is not Mitchell negotiating
It is not a secretary
Or some staff


It is our Chairman, Daniel Levy who negotiates our transfer dealings with Chairmen from other clubs

Thats why they are chairmen. Maybe some of you work in companies where its ok to send Steve from the canteen over to sign for a parcel.

That doesnt work at this level though.
 
Tottenham transfer secrets revealed: Daniel Levy is one of football's fiercest negotiators... here's how his extraordinary bargaining has infuriated rival teams
  • Daniel Levy incensed West Ham with his deadline day negotiating methods
  • He refused to let Emmanuel Adebayor join a perceived top four rival
  • His tactics meant Tottenham got a world record fee for Gareth Bale
  • Click here for all the latest Tottenham Hotspur news
By NEIL ASHTON FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:06 GMT, 6 February 2015 | UPDATED: 18:41 GMT, 6 February 2015

Around an hour before kick-off in the north London derby, Daniel Levy will welcome a delegation of Woolwich officials into his spacious boardroom at White Hart Lane.

The conversation with Woolwich’s chief executive Ivan Gazidis will be polite and cordial, barely scratching the surface before Levy sits down for pre-match brunch with a table full of Tottenham executives.

Later this month, when David Sullivan, David Gold and Karren Brady walk up the stairs of the West Stand on February 22, the atmosphere will be a little bit more chilly.

25656DDA00000578-2942774-image-a-7_1423235101745.jpg

Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy relishes the negotiating battle that comes with player transfers

254EA50E00000578-2942774-Levy_blocked_a_loan_move_for_striker_Emmanuel_Adebayor_to_rivals-a-1_1423234889889.jpg

Levy blocked a loan move for striker Emmanuel Adebayor to rivals West Ham United on deadline day

061C0B330000044D-0-image-a-33_1423229987602.jpg

Levy's tactics when talking to West Ham irked Hammers executives David Gold and Karen Brady (right)

West Ham are tired of Levy, irritated by his negotiating tactics on transfer deadline day after he refused to allow Emmanuel Adebayor to move to Upton Park. They are in no rush to deal with him again.

Levy has an extraordinary reputation within the game and he is always willing to come to the table in the transfer window, so long as the terms are in Tottenham’s favour.

As one owner of a Barclays Premier League club told Sportsmail in the aftermath of deadline day: ‘Daniel likes to squeeze your balls until your eyes start to water’.

Levy comes alive in the window, spending hours on the phone to a network of agents.

Leon Angel, plus Gareth Bale’s representative Jonathan Barnett and his assistant David Manessah are all on speed dial as he plots Tottenham’s next move.

Levy was anointed by Tottenham’s principal owner Joe Lewis, who is also his godfather, when his investment vehicle ENIC bought the club from Sir Alan Sugar in 2001. All three are ruthless businessmen.

He is at the training ground most days, arriving anywhere between 8-8.30am to begin work.

Levy rises early, responding to text and WhatsApp messages long before he leaves the family home in Totteridge, north London, for the journey to the training centre.

It is there, at their magnificent new hub on the outskirts of Enfield, that Levy spent the day setting up deals by telephone and email last Monday.

He appointed Franco Baldini as technical director in 2013, partly to detach himself from the frenzied atmosphere at the club on deadline day. Two years on, he cannot resist.

‘Daniel never raises his voice or shouts, even when transfers or deals are at their most delicate stage,’ revealed the club’s former director of football Damien Comolli.

‘That is why he always wins, because others lose their temper or start shouting. He is a calculated guy and he is prepared to wait and wait.

‘Most people get nervous or anxious, but he enjoys the challenge. He is an excellent negotiator.’

When Robbie Keane went on loan to West Ham in January 2011, an argument over removal cost amounting to £5,000 nearly scuppered the deal. Levy squeezes the pips on everything.


022D1ED9000005DC-0-image-m-37_1423230349629.jpg

Damien Comolli (right) praised Levy for his composure when negotiating transfer deals for Spurs

He spends hours in his vault on the first floor during the transfer window, pacing up and down a spartanly furnished office hypothesising over potential transfers on a notepad on his desk.

Last Monday, when Levy swept into Tottenham’s training centre, he was ready for business. Deals were there to be done.

Delle Alli, who has earned comparisons to Frank Lampard in the scouting reports filed for the club’s new head of recruitment Paul Mitchell, was already on his way for a medical.

By then his football-mad son Josh, who works in the City for an investment bank, was asking people he has come across in the game whether Alli was good for the money. The day was starting to take shape.

West Ham and West Brom had both made enquiries for midfielder Etienne Capoue. Roma wanted to get something going for central defender Vlad Chiriches.

25488E5B00000578-2942774-Tottenham_signed_18_year_old_Dele_Alli_on_transfer_deadline_day_-a-2_1423234889939.jpg

Tottenham signed 18-year-old Dele Alli on transfer deadline day before loaning him back to MK Dons

2544D04300000578-0-image-m-41_1423230773367.jpg

West Ham and West Brom had both asked about the availability of midfielder Etienne Capoue (left)

2546011900000578-2942774-Central_defender_Vlad_Chiriches_left_had_also_caught_the_interes-a-3_1423234889958.jpg

Central defender Vlad Chiriches (left) had also caught the interest of Italian club Roma in Serie A

The pace picked up again when that nuisance Emmanuel Adebayor cropped up again in conversation.

There was an air of anticipation because Levy somehow had to convince the £100,000-a-week forward to swap a Capital One Cup final against Chelsea on March 1 for a relegation battle with QPR.

Rangers were desperate, calling up and offering to pay £75,000 towards Adebayor’s salary for the rest of the season.

Predictably he didn’t fancy it.

Later that afternoon, around 3pm, Adebayor’s agent Darren Dein, the son of former Woolwich vice-chairman David, believed he had devised a plan to suit all parties. West Ham would take him.

It is at this moment, against the advice of practically everybody involved in the decision-making process at White Hart Lane, Levy refused to cede any ground.

In the past, during negotiations to move to the Olympic Park for a year or to tenant Upton Park during the rebuilding of a new super-stadium at White Hart Lane, Brady felt he attempted to push her around.

Anyone who has ever come across West Ham’s chief executive will tell you that Brady is a formidable lady. She can look after herself.

09AB14C700000514-0-image-a-44_1423231084692.jpg

When Levy negotiated with Real Madrid for the Gareth Bale deal, Tottenham got a record transfer fee

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Bale (left) eventually signed for Real Madrid from Tottenham for a transfer fee of £86million

West Ham were offering to pay 50 per cent of Adebayor’s wages, £50,000-a-week, but Levy was well within his rights to point out the offer on the table from QPR. West Ham needed to up the ante.

With the clock ticking on deadline day, Levy also made it clear that he did not want to sell to a perceived rival for fourth place in the Barclays Premier League, or to leave his squad weaker than when the window closed.

Others felt differently, concerned that Adebayor’s dreadful attitude would affect the team’s rhythm in the run up to the Capital One Cup final at Wembley. Levy re-iterated that he calls the shots.

His behaviour, along with his bargaining position, infuriated West Ham and it prompted some stinging criticism from Gold via social media when the window closed at 11pm. There are no winners here.

There have been times when Levy has used reverse psychology, working a situation to his advantage to get the best possible deal for Tottenham.

In the summer of 2013, Real Madrid offered £55m up front for Bale. Levy told Tottenham’s board that he would not sell the forward, but Bale’s heart was already set on a move to the Bernabeu.

What followed was unusual for Levy, but he played the role of the junior partner in negotiations with Real’s president Florentino Perez in spectacular fashion.

Levy played him like a fiddle, deferring to Perez when he agreed to fly out to Madrid on a private jet on two separate occasions to negotiate the terms over Bale’s transfer from Spurs.

25446D4600000578-2942774-Levy_wants_to_see_more_homegrown_players_such_as_Harry_Kane_cent-a-5_1423234889997.jpg

Levy wants to see more homegrown players such as Harry Kane (centre) play in the Tottenham first team

When he emerged from dinner on the second occasion, Perez had agreed to pay a world record fee of £86m to sign Bale from White Hart Lane.

The dispute between the two clubs over the precise figures is because the transfer fee will be substanially less if Real can pay quicker than the five-year schedule agreed by Levy and Perez.

Occasionally Levy’s staff see a softer side and they were surprised when he agreed to take the ice-bucket challenge after he was nominated by Andre Villas-Boas last year.

Levy responded by nominating Perez, citing the departures of Luka Modric and Bale to Real Madrid over the past few years as the reasons behind his decision.

He can be generous too and he once delivered a Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (but not a 4S, which is more expensive) to Martin Jol’s home as a gesture of goodwill when Spurs were performing well under their Dutch coach.

Mostly, though, he is working on the serious business of making Spurs competitive and he has an almost pathological desire to reassert themselves in the top four.

With the rapid progress of Harry Kane and Ryan Mason, he wants John McDermott, academy manager and head of coaching, to bring more young players into the first team.

24F3B07E00000578-2942774-Levy_has_also_been_delighted_to_see_Ryan_Mason_centre_make_his_w-a-6_1423234890008.jpg

Levy has also been delighted to see Ryan Mason (centre) make his way into the Tottenham senior squad

The decision to sign Alli from MK Dons is another sign that Tottenham are once again investing in raw talent.

In a few months time the transfer window will be on his radar and he can start to prepare for a serious turnover of playing staff before next season.

As ever, Levy will walk away with the feeling that he has the upper hand






So, just to clear things up, once again.

There is no transfer team
It was not Eales negotiating despite playing a "key role"
It is not Baldini negotiating
It is not Mitchell negotiating
It is not a secretary
Or some staff


It is our Chairman, Daniel Levy who negotiates our transfer dealings with Chairmen from other clubs

Thats why they are chairmen. Maybe some of you work in companies where its ok to send Steve from the canteen over to sign for a parcel.

That doesnt work at this level though.

LOL, the article doesn't even remotely prove your conclusion. You're just assuming (again)

1. How the fuck would you know if we have a "transfer team" or not?
2. It says Levy blocks the Ade to West Ham deal on deadline day (hint: someone else might have been negotiating the deal up to that point)
3. Of course our chairman will negotiate a £86 million deal with Madrid - using that to "prove" that's he's spent 3 weeks on a £2.1 million deal in Colombia is pathetic.
4. Conclusively, you don't know squat about the points you're trying to make, so does everyone else on here.
 
Time will tell. He's not had the best start though has he?

Belgium hardly set the world alight at the WC.
Four teams objectively did better than Belgium at the WC. Whom from the Brazil, Argentina, Germany, or Holland side—who also "set the world alight at the WC"—should we have realistically signed to show proper ambition?

David Luis? Paulinho? Messi? Klose?

There are interesting names on those squads (Lavezzi, Kramer, Clasie), but we're talking about worlds ON FIRE here.
 
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