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Transfers Summer 2016 Transfer Window Thread
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He was their best player over 2 legs vs us.The Dane said:
You need to read more red tops if you think that's a complete list
We'll end up with whoever gets the lowest result of this calculation:
(Transfer fee up front + performance bonus transfer fee / 4) * yearly wage cost / (40 - age) / (ability on a scale 1-10 * 10) / (adaptability to PL on a scale 1-10 * 7) / (ability to fit into the squad on a scale 1-10 * 5) / estimated value of additional shirt sales
You just run the numbers and you'll know :chadliblow:
I starting writing that in jest, but I honestly do think that football (and not just Levy) has gotten to the point where that's the approach most clubs are working from; the exceptions being money's no object dirty oil money "clubs" :lameladisgust: Which is why none of us really have a clue.
Doesn't we cannot have no clue guesses though
I just can't right now wrap my head around sorting out who I believe, we'll sign. Too many possibilities and all too many unknowns 
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This is a slightly more complete list, courtesy of reddit:You need to read more red tops if you think that's a complete list
Goalkeepers
Name Age Position Club Estimated Fee Date Source
Dragowski 18 keeper Jagiellonia Bialystok ? 14/05 Link
Peacock-Farrell 19 keeper leeds ? 16/05 Link
Pickford 22 keeper sunderland ? 30/05 Link
Defenders
Name Age Position Club Estimated Fee Date Source
Umtiti 22 CB Lyon ? 26/04 Link
Bartra 25 CB barcelona ~£10m 28/04 Link
Holding 20 cb bolton £10m 07/05 Link
Musacchio 25 CB Villarreal ? 09/05 Link
Glik 28 CB Torino ? 14/05 Link
Vestergaard 23 CB werder bremen ? 18/05 Link
Chilwell 19 LB leicester ? 19/05 Link
Tymon 17 LB Hull ? 25/05 Link
Henry 19 LB Walsall ? 27/05 Link
Coulibaly 19 CB Rennes €400k 30/05 Link
Midfielders
Name Age Position Club Estimated Fee Date Source
Kovacic 22 CM Real Madrid ? 18/04 Link
Kante 25 CM Leicester ? 28/04 Link
Suarez 22 midfielder villareal ? 04/05 Link
Diarra 31 DM Marseille free (contract clause) 08/05 Link
Dahoud 20 CM Monchengladbach ? 09/05 Link
Tielemans 19 cm anderlecht ? 16/05 Link
Walace 21 DM Gremio ? 18/05 Link
Wanyama 24 DM Southampton ? 19/05 Link
Coric 19 midfielder dinamo zagreb ~£10m 19/05 Link
Brozovic 23 CM Inter £11.5m 25/05 Link
Wijnaldum 25 CM Newcastle £12m 26/05 Link
Bazoer 19 CM Ajax ? 27/05 Link
Forwards
Name Age Position Club Estimated Fee Date Source
Lapadula 26 striker pescara ? 13/04 Link
Wilfried Kanga 18 striker PSG ? 25/04 Link
Kalinic 28 striker fiorentina ? 28/04 Link
Baston 23 striker Atletico (Eibar loan) ? 28/04 Link
Pedro Ruiz 16 striker real madrid ? 29/04 Link
Nathaniel Amamoo 18 striker freiburg ? 30/04 Link
Jovetic 26 striker inter ? 30/04 Link
Ibe 20 winger liverpool ? 03/05 Link
Boufal 22 Winger Lille £18m 03/05 Link
Konate 23 striker sion ? 04/05 Link
Dembele 19 striker fulham ? 09/05 Link
Lallana 28 winger liverpool ? 10/05 Link
Ikone 18 winger PSG ? 10/05 Link
Ramirez 20 striker/winger Barcelona free 11/05 Link
Morata 23 striker real madrid ? 11/05 Link
Lacazette 24 ST Lyon ? 11/05 Link
Batshuayi 22 ST Marseille ? 12/05 Link
Gabbiadini 24 FW Napoli ? 13/05 Link
Parigini 20 winger Torino (on Perugia loan) ? 13/05 Link
Peñaranda 18 FW Watford ? 14/05 Link
Slimani 27 FW Sporting €30M (clause) 14/05 Link
C. Wilson 24 ST Bournemouth ? 14/05 Link
Embolo 19 ST Basel £20M 14/05 Link
Success 20 ST Granada ? 14/05 Link
Malli 24 AM mainz ~£10m 14/05 Link
Berahino 22 striker WBA ? 14/05 Link
Berardi 21 striker sassuolo ? 14/05 Link
Thauvin 23 winger newcastle ? 14/05 Link
Niang 21 forward AC milan ? 17/05 Link
Griezmann 25 forward atletico ? 17/05 Link
Schurrle 25 winger wolfsburg ? 18/05 Link
Vasquez 27 forward palermo ? 19/05 Link
Calleri 22 striker São Paulo FC ? 23/05 Link
Marlos 27 winger Shakhtar Donetsk ? 23/05 Link
Mane 24 Forward Southampton ? 26/05 Link
Ibrahimovic 34 Striker PSG ? 27/05 Link
Long 29 Striker Southampton ? 27/05 Link
Janssen 21 Striker AZ Alkmaar ? 28/05 Link
Bellarabi 26 winger Leverkusen ? 28/05 Link
Grenier 25 forward Lyon ? 28/05 Link
Pereyra 25 forward Juventus €20m 30/05 Link
Bolasie 27 winger Palace ? 30/05 Link
Grealish 20 AM Villa ? 30/05 Link
Deeney 27 striker Watford ? 31/05 Link
Mkhitaryan 27 forward Dortmund ? 01/06 Link
Hugo is a great keeper. But as you rightly point out, he does get an easy ride when it all goes brainfart mode. I hope he has a tremendous euros & comes back even better. Love him, but he isn't exempt from criticism. And as the captain, he should be hitting his prime now.
Name me a goalkeeper who doesn't make mistakes? We're lucky to have the useless cunt.
You guys seriously think that the club (Levy, Poch, Mitchell, et al) intentionally wait until the last minute? You think they don't know the benefits of wrapping up business early? But for the majority of the players we're looking at, we're not exactly their top destination. We can get a Fazio done early, but when it comes to a Batshuyai, a Jansen, or an Embolo, think again. These players and their teams are going to hold out as long as it takes to get the best fee and the best wages and there's zilch we can do about it, unless we start offering silly money and Manure, City, or Chelski we ain't.
So get real here and stop deluding yourselves that getting transfers done early is in our hands exclusively and therefore it's all Levy's fault.
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We are not deluding ourselves, it happens year after year! How long have you been supporting us? Clubs and players have a price, if you want the deal done, pay the asking price, don't go haggling over a few £££ at the last minute. See the deals for Moutinho, Berahino, Dembele mk2, Damiao, any striker we are supposedly in for. We have a set budget for transfers, don't try wasting our time getting players that are unreachable. We cannot compete with the rich elite teams and we have to be smarter in our player purchases. More Alli's than Paulinho's. Players that are properly scouted and then purchased in good time.
We now have the added pull of being able to offer Champions League, a new stadium (Wembley), an excellent young coach, we are an attractive draw again. We want to hit the ground running and get players in asap. If a player wants to fuck about waiting for other deals, bin them off as they are clearly not interested in our club.
Have you honestly just used three examples which very much prove that by not paying the asking price we avoided overspending on shit players? Berahino and Damiao's careers have both fallen waywards and Dembele Mk 2 failed because we refused to loan him back.
He's given a solid argument and it's always the same argument, but some fans seem to just think we should spunk money at every given opportunity. We aren't the only party involved in transfers, you need to start understanding that.
Who is to say they would have been crap for us? We clearly wanted them and at the time whilst playing regularly were on an upward trajectory. In hindsight their careers have not panned out the way they had hoped, players are able to have sliding doors moments. Would WBA have dealt with us had we offered £25m instead of lowballing them. We could have still agreed the instalment package, but give them what they want. As for 3rd party ownerships, pay them off and get the player, everyone wants their piece of the pie.
We've also underspent on shit players, where we've tried to get an imitation of the player the coach wants. It was clear that Pochettino wanted Schneiderlin and Musacchio. Look at who we ended up with, Stambouli and Fazio.
Looking back at our transfers during the ENIC era it has been about a scatter gun approach of signing players and getting value for money. The only times I remember us signing the players the coach wanted were under Redknapp when we got Parker and Adebayor, players he wanted and we needed, both had outstanding seasons for us.
Yes, but splashing 25 million on Berahino was too much. And even if we agree a fee with a club, it doesnt always mean we will get the player to agree to anything straight away.
I woudnt expect us to sign anyone going to the euros until the euros are over, because that player knows a good international competition is the difference between signing for spurs or signing for madrid.
Players that are holding out for a better deal are the ones who will leave at the first sign of someone else bigger sniffing around. I want players that want to come to us and have bought into what we as a club offer. Not someone who says they will join us, unless they get a better offer.
also theres no excuse for not signing a 2nd striker last summer & then in january. It was poor work from levy.
Hopefully he learns from it this summer.
Its clear levy is a hinderance in signing players.
He also rubs other clubs up the wrong way with insulting opening offers.
He puts them on the defensive straight away.
Not sure why he thinks this approach is working well!
Sigh... Here we go again.
Some people think that Levy's penny pinching attitude and insistence in protracting every transfer to the last minute to save a few bob is to blame for every rumoured target that we "miss out on" .
Other people believe that transferring a footballer has become a increasingly complex process with agents, wages, intellectual rights, 3rd party ownership, sponsorship, work permits, singing on fees and bonuses, the selling club agreeing on a fee and finally the player and their family all needing careful consideration.
Like all things from a football supporters limited perspective: the truth probably lies somewhere in between
#endofstory
Some people think that Levy's penny pinching attitude and insistence in protracting every transfer to the last minute to save a few bob is to blame for every rumoured target that we "miss out on" .
Other people believe that transferring a footballer has become a increasingly complex process with agents, wages, intellectual rights, 3rd party ownership, sponsorship, work permits, singing on fees and bonuses, the selling club agreeing on a fee and finally the player and their family all needing careful consideration.
Like all things from a football supporters limited perspective: the truth probably lies somewhere in between
#endofstory