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Transfers Summer 2017 transfer window or, waiting for Godot

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Oracle said:
CCV
KWP
Onomah
Winks
Edwards

Total outlay £00.00

5 squad players.

How much would a Winks or a Tom Davies go for in this climate if they didn't come through your academy?
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Per 90 Winks is right at the top of midfielders in the league...obviously still has to prove he can do it in a larger role consistently across a season, but with prices what they are you'd be mad to think you could get that combination of youth, talent, and homegrown less than £20m anymore.
 
MemphisWill said:
Per 90 Winks is right at the top of midfielders in the league...obviously still has to prove he can do it in a larger role consistently across a season, but with prices what they are you'd be mad to think you could get that combination of youth, talent, and homegrown less than £20m anymore.
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If Harry Winks is able to do for 2-3000 minutes this season what he did for 500 minutes last season then Spurs will have found another star player in their Academy. And the fans of other clubs and the media will spend the next 10 years pretending he's a League One-level player at best.
 
Oracle said:
Equivalent costs to recruit the same level per player then please in this market? Put your money where your mouth is.

Not saying their starting XI or perfect, but we've all agreed the starting XI is hard to improve and people are saying we need to improve the squad?
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I neither suggested they shouldn't be nowhere near the first team, nor we need to buy bunch of cheap squaddies for covers. I was simply stating my subjective views on current abilities of those youngsters as potential squad players for next season.
 
MindBlown said:
I neither suggested they shouldn't be nowhere near the first team, nor we need to buy bunch of cheap squaddies for covers. I was simply stating my subjective views on current abilities of those youngsters as potential squad players for next season.
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Fair enough, I guess my reasoning was you're looking at £50m, possibly more the lot and that's why it makes sense to give them a go.
 
Jayc1 said:
Inventions are never simply "made". Often there is a gradual process where someone has an idea, someone else tries it, and then finally someone else, years later, perfects it. I appreciate you've pulled many of these from a click bait "top 10 things you didn't know Australians invented", but many are a bit iffy.



Wifi - Vic Hayes came up with the idea. John O'sullivan, an Australian, improved it. Some credit there, but to say you "invented it", is a little far fetched.

Pacemaker - This one is true, but it wasn't what we imagine a pacemaker to be like today. In 1920 Mark Cowley Lidwill, Australian, put an electrical needle into a dead babies heart and revived it. Is this a pacemaker or a defibrillator? Weird semantics, but I'll give you that one.

Flight Recorder - The first Flight Recorders were made around 1939. The British used Flight Recorders during WW2, to see how and why a plane crashed. In 1953 Warren, an Australian, added voice recording and made the item more durable. Funnily enough these flight recorders were manufactured by *Drum roll* Britain, because no one else in the world gave a fuck.

There's about 5 countries who have claimed to have "invented" or "patented" the Flight Recorder/Black Box. Adding voice recording to an already existent item does not mean you "invented" it.

I'm not even going to google google maps as it's not really a historical bragging point.

Ultrasound - If you mean Ultrasound in a medical sense I.e. For babies then it was made by a Scottish bloke called Ian Donald in 1956. Australians didn't touch Ultrasound until 1962.

A lot of these are stretching the truth very far. You improved a lot of this technology, but to say you invented it is baffling. The Black Box was around 14 years before you touched it. Ultrasound was around 6 years before you touched it. Wifi already existed before John O'Sullivan touched it, but he made it far more reliable.

Again, anyone bragging about inventions is always suspect to people disagreeing because every country claims to have invented everything. Someone will make the theory, a bloke will patent it, someone else across the globe will invent it, another guy in the middle of nowhere will actually test it and everyone of them is claiming to have invented it.
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Volta is credited with inventing the battery, but they were being used in what is now Iraq around 200 year before Christ.
In a market place in ancient Mesopotamia: ' your gonna need 5 of these wired together to get 5 Azzidis mate'
Apparently there is also evidence of the use prophylactics in cave paintings.

can anyone shed any light on if we are near on any signings of players we need in certain positions
 
Oracle said:
CCV
KWP
Onomah
Winks
Edwards

Total outlay £00.00

5 squad players.

How much would a Winks or a Tom Davies go for in this climate if they didn't come through your academy?
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you're joking, right? 2 squad players at best. it's a season too soon for most you listed. i hope they all get some game time but imagining walker and carter replacing potentially injured trippier and alderweireld doesn't scream 'sorted' to me.

£50M for those five players lol!
 
Bagelboy said:
Volta is credited with inventing the battery, but they were being used in what is now Iraq around 200 year before Christ.
In a market place in ancient Mesopotamia: ' your gonna need 5 of these wired together to get 5 Azzidis mate'
Apparently there is also evidence of the use prophylactics in cave paintings.
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Little known fact, America invented the missionary position, you're welcome.

 
The Dane said:
Lamela is very injury prone and his main attribute is that he runs a lot. Siggurdson has saved Swansea from relegation two seasons running, put Lamela in that team instead of him, would he do the same?
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There's a reason players like Sigurdsson end up battling relegation regularly - you have to build you team around them to get the most out of them.....every attack, corner, freekick, penalty is through him......except he's not good enough for that.

Put him in a better team and ask him to play a bit part role (like with us) and he's average.
 
The way I see it is Lamela would get in our team. Sigurdsson wouldn't.

I love Sigurdsson. Most of that love comes because he has played for us previously. He always seems to score against the likes of Chelsea, Woolwich, Man Utd which is always nice and tends to help us out - he has brilliant technique but there is a reason why he plays for Swansea and only Everton really show interest.
 
Jayc1 said:
In 1920 Mark Cowley Lidwill, Australian, put an electrical needle into a dead babies heart and revived it. Is this a pacemaker or a defibrillator? Weird semantics, but I'll give you that one.
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Good post, but just to add: Mark Cowley Lidwill was English, not Australian. He was working there at the time, so it's a bit of an odd one in terms of "does that make it an Aussie invention?"
 
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