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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Can't wait for all the excuses as to why we haven't signed anyone once the season ends and the summer begins

-Season just ended
-Levy and Poch on holiday
-Have to wait until internationals are out the way
-transfer fees too high
-players on holiday
-cant sign anyone officially until July 1st
-have to wait for bigger clubs to do their business before we can enter the market
-Brexit
-unwanted players must be sold first to make way for new signings
-players are cheaper at the end of the window
-we can save on wages by delaying signing anyone until the later stages of the summer

What fun
The classic 'No business will be done until Levy is back from holiday' line.

Has there legit ever been a Summer where that BS hasn't been trotted out?

:dembelelol:
 
But I’m just wondering exactly what most of them aren’t good enough for?

What if we get to CL final? What if we win it?
Is the back up still shit?

Personally I think the back up have been by and large ridiculously reliable.
What’s let us down has been the “star players” crapness, the age old problem of wasting chances in the final third, managerial/tactical errors, mentality and injuries.

Changes need to be made.....but not because the squad is shit.
bang on.

the blanket argument that we lack quality in depth is a lazy one thrown out by Sky "experts".

they didn't strengthen = must lack depth
not competing with city/lolpool = must lack depth

totally lacks context.

in reality, you look at our injuries this season, our position in the league, and CL semi, and this offers more support to the notion that our depth is actually very good than it does otherwise. Where would lolpool be now if they'd lost Mane and Salah for the 23 games we've been without Dele and Kane, and what if Firmino had disappeared for two major tournament mid-season. What if VVD had been missing for 15 games like Jan? Does anyone actually expect that even with those injuries we should have been up there with city and lolpool? no fucking way. 4th and a CL semi (minimum ffs, could get even better!), is proof our depth is good.

Does this mean we couldn't have strengthen, or that we wouldn't have benefited from that? no of course not. We all want to improve the squad, just lets not lose our fucking minds.
 
Where would lolpool be now if they'd lost Mane and Salah for the 23 games we've been without Dele and Kane, and what if Firmino had disappeared for two major tournament mid-season. What if VVD had been missing for 15 games like Jan?
Well I’ve had this discussion before and apparently Lallana, Origi and Sturridge are all as good as Salah....I mean “look at our rivals bench”. It’s only Spurs who don’t have an equal to their first choice on the bench right...?

We’ve actually won pretty much every game Kane hasn’t played and in an ideal world Llorente would be an integrated and integral part of our squad by now.

But Harry’s Golden Boot came first for two years and it was deemed that he should play every single minute of every single game even if half fit.
The fans lapped it up too, then slag off Levy.

Sorry Poch had 35M pounds worth of back up strikers sitting at home playing PlayStation for two years.
 
Having suffered the Dippers excellent play this season, I'm of the mind that fullbacks remain key to our play. With Walker and Rose on song, we used to bomb forward and press like monsters. Roberston gives Liverpool that down the left.

We need that again. It would take some of the pressure off our midfield to boot. Not sure who we can get to do that - perhaps that's what they're hoping Sessegnon will provide, with Attal on the right.
Bissaka at Right Back and Sessegnon at Left Back and we are sorted for 10 years.
 
Right now thats the case......but the same people said the same things about the same players when we were finishing above City and Liverpool just a couple seasons ago.

The it was ONE marquee signing. Now we need half a squad.

The bar is always raised......do people seriously expect us to outspend City? We just had a season like this, with the back up playing most of it.
You think Chelsea would be 3rd in the same situation.....or Liverpool with Sturride and Origi instead of Salah

You make some sound points - and no, of course, we will never ever in a billion years come close to City's spending. I don't think anyone seriously expects that.

What I think people do expect, however, is a big investment in the squad this summer. No signings for two windows + the Dembele money + the extra CL money + the money from player sales should be used to back Poch.. and I think his statements suggest he wants investment in the squad as well.

Our current starting 11 is good enough to challenge (maybe minus Trips), but we've been very unfortunate with injuries this season. Our backups have not done well enough (and I'm not talking about Llorente. To me he has done very well for a backup striker)
 
I want to throw in a name for the right back position. Stefan Lainer.

26 year old right back at Salzburg (turns 27 in August so just starting to hit his peak years). Really impressed with him in the Europa. Just the right mix of offensive and defensive for a right back.


Napoli wanted him last year and he wanted to leave but wasn't allowed. Kept his head down and was still fighting for the team, so has a good mentality too. Could be a good squad addition and certainly better than Aurier, but I think we should go for someone with a higher ceiling.
 
The squad needs reinvigoration. It's run its course.

We need those who have always got picked to be unsure of a starting place, we need a return to a football philosophy that all the players understand and I believe we need a return to a first 11.

We may just about have got away with it this season because United have completely flattered to deceive but even Woolwich for all their defensive frailty have shown they may get better next season and if they win the Europa it will give them a big boost.

Add to that the real threat of 3 or 4 other teams from the mid-table pack and I think anything other than a net 4 or 5 players in would be a worry.

We will soon start the long journey of transfer hope.

I hear every single year that Woolwich will be a threat and Utd will improve and Chelsea will do this and Liverpool will do that.

I mean, people said for 6 straight years Liverpool have surpassed us, then the one season they get above us it’s “I told you so”.

Every year we “cant keep up with our rivals” and every year we finish above at least three of them. Maybe just the two this year which is fine all things considered.

But their failings are always seen as “but they won’t be this crap next season”.

Well neither will we hopefully.
 
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Trippier's Mrs making the decision for him?

Ancelotti has also refused to rule out a move for Tottenham defender Kieran Trippier, 28, after the England international's wife was reportedly spotted looking for schools in Naples. (Talksport)
 
Thought that clubs could sign players at any time of the year, but they couldn't register them outside of the transfer windows? Thus, the whole "window hasn't opened yet" thing is a bullshit excuse imo.
 
You make some sound points - and no, of course, we will never ever in a billion years come close to City's spending. I don't think anyone seriously expects that.

What I think people do expect, however, is a big investment in the squad this summer. No signings for two windows + the Dembele money + the extra CL money + the money from player sales should be used to back Poch.. and I think his statements suggest he wants investment in the squad as well.

Our current starting 11 is good enough to challenge (maybe minus Trips), but we've been very unfortunate with injuries this season. Our backups have not done well enough (and I'm not talking about Llorente. To me he has done very well for a backup striker)

I’ve always believed that the stadium will free up funds, as was planned.

People lost their shit that we didn’t spunk a couple gazillion while paying for Wembley and not knowing the final costs of the new ground.
And they are quick to completely ignore the new contracts for Poch, Kane and Dele..( fat lot of use Deles pay rise was)

I’ll be honest, this second half of the season has been poor, and as I said in January a striker and Dembele replacement should have been signed.
We pulled it off, but it could have been worse.
A mixture of our squad digging deep, and some of our rivals being fairly shit considering they outspent is by hundreds of millions, played at home, and didn’t have the injuries we did.

But THIS coming window is not the same as the last summer window.
THIS window we need to make changes based on the season we just had.

People will slag off Levy for last year, and berate Trippier, and Dier etc etc, but to reach the CL semis, knocking out City, spanking Dortmund and coming through that group the way we did just goes to show they were wrong about last summer.

You cannot predict being surpassed by our rivals, and the when we finish top 4 dismiss it and say “well next year they’ll be better”.

We gambled, and we won. Battered and bruised, with some luck and a lot of determination.

Whatever happens now, barring a 9 goal swing with Woolwich on Sunday, the season has been a success. Our target was top 4, we all know that, and the squad was rightly deemed good enough to get there.
 
the pair of them have had reasonable 12 months of form. Suggesting they're ready made to dominate the fullback positions for the next 10 years is one hell of a statement.
Granted, but we have the full back whisperer as manager who just needs the raw ability to be there to start with. Trippier and Davies lack the pace needed and Aurier is a mentalist. Let Danny continue and rotate as Sess is still very raw, I think Wan-Bissaka is ready to go.
 
bang on.

the blanket argument that we lack quality in depth is a lazy one thrown out by Sky "experts".

they didn't strengthen = must lack depth
not competing with city/lolpool = must lack depth

totally lacks context.

in reality, you look at our injuries this season, our position in the league, and CL semi, and this offers more support to the notion that our depth is actually very good than it does otherwise. Where would lolpool be now if they'd lost Mane and Salah for the 23 games we've been without Dele and Kane, and what if Firmino had disappeared for two major tournament mid-season. What if VVD had been missing for 15 games like Jan? Does anyone actually expect that even with those injuries we should have been up there with city and lolpool? no fucking way. 4th and a CL semi (minimum ffs, could get even better!), is proof our depth is good.

Does this mean we couldn't have strengthen, or that we wouldn't have benefited from that? no of course not. We all want to improve the squad, just lets not lose our fucking minds.

Worth noting Liverpool had a mini-spell with a RB crisis.... Went on a streak of draws and subsequently LOST the league title.

#DEPTH :angryscouser:
 
Janssen, GKN, Lamela and Trippier are the ones we should shift this summer. As much as Wanyama hasn't looked the same since the injury and some people don't rate Davies, I think it's unrealistic to expect such a big clear out as we'd then need to get even more players in. A new right back and two CM's should be our priority (a CB if dreamy Toby leaves).
 
The big factor we aren’t considering is the Levy factor! The man is notorious when it comes to deals, I just really wish the club would push on with at least one marque signing this summer! And no I don’t mean Grealish or Sessongon, someone who will come into the first team and change us for the better. Only problem is that type of player costs you 70m + these days and levy just won’t pay that sort of fee.

I’ve also been wondering about our recruitment lately as a general thing, we seem to be getting it wrong more than right lately. Sure we’ve got lucky with bargains like Dele, but there’s been more of Auriers, Lamelas and Janssens thrown into that mix. Do people think our scouting is wrong is it coming from above, I.e. board telling scouts we only want players that are gonna cost x amount? I know every clubs wants bargains but does the cost have to be the main factor, sometimes I am not sure our rivals think the same, certainly not Utd or chelski.
 
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