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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Spaniel said:
Maybe two. VVD and Aubameyang
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Just goes to show that its not always spending the money but spending it wisely that's important.

As in getting the right player with the right mental attitude to fit in, the desire to want to fight for the team and the belief in what we are doing.

I'm not saying we would have been interested in those players but I'd love to know which players we have looked at or had the chance to buy in recent seasons but have passed by for attitude, work rate, disruptive reasons.
 
r-u-s-x said:
No I wouldn't be happy and they lose trust, you then question all of their decisions.

I also wouldn't be happy with buying shit players just for the sake of it, if they did the club would lose my trust and I would then begin to question all their decisions.

Unless other infromaiton comes to light.


--- Would you be happy regardless of the players as long as he spends 150M because its showing intent? me either but that's the same logic you are trying to apply on others.
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So you would lose the trust you had despite all the trust they had built up over the last 5 year's. If we sign no one you wouldn't trust the club anymore & would be unhappy.
Thats all I wanted to pin you down to. Because it seemed like you would still be happy & trust the club if we signed no one & did the opposite of what you wanted.
 
scott said:
So you would lose the trust you had despite all the trust they had built up over the last 5 year's. If we sign no one you wouldn't trust the club anymore & would be unhappy.
Thats all I wanted to pin you down to. Because it seemed like you would still be happy & trust the club if we signed no one & did the opposite of what you wanted.
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Yes that's how it works you only have a track record why you have a track record. This is the same in trading, in business and in relationships. You think otherwise?


It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently. Warren Buffett


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r-u-s-x said:
Choosing or unable to understand?

one of your examples- in a car crash there is always someone to blame? you cant think of a time where there isn't?
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The only thing where an individual is not to blame in a car crash is natural disaster, for example, a flood or a tree falling on a car, in which case the earth is to blame, so there is still something to blame for the incident.

Every other possible scenario is down to human error, even if the car has something wrong with it unknown to the user, it's still the error of the manufacturer of the car, therefore they are to blame.

Can you name me a scenario in a car accident where nothing or nobody is to blame?

Now when we are talking about our inability to win a trophy you have to look at the likely causes of that and narrow it down based on the evidence.

And the likely cause of that, more than any other reason, is down to our lack of transfer activity in the last 18 months imo.

The point I am trying to make is, there is always someone or something to blame, that's just logical.

Now I ask you, who is to blame for us not winning a trophy if you think we have been good enough to win one the last 3 years?
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
You mean it would be nice if you could sit and defend our transfer policy unchallenged?

None of what we are saying is "going off on a tangent" it's questioning your position on the matter and so far all you have basically said is, you want the club to spend money but you trust them if they don't because they have built up the good will to afford us not questioning them, so you are accepting whatever outcome is given, that's not logical thinking, that's you giving non-commital answers whilst lambasting others for having an opinion based on previous knowledge.

I and many others are saying that we barely scraped into the top 4, our CL run is not indicative of where we truly are as a club, our manager wants us to spend money and if our owners fail to back him with the signings he wants after 18 months of inactivity, inactivity which has had, imo, a huge impact on our results last season in the league, then it would be an abject failure on their part, irrespective of any good will they have built up.

You not liking people questioning our transfer policy doesn't mean they are wrong for doing it, that's where the issue seems to lay here, you and a few others want for people to blindly accept whatever the owners tell us and if we fail to do that then we are "impatient" or don't understand that we "can't afford it" because that's what the owners have told us.

It's blind faith, you can write a million paragraphs about it but that's what it is, you are placing your faith in our owners based on optimism rather than fact.

Fact and evidence show us we haven't purchased a player for 18 months and that the players we are linked with would be our highest ever transfer fees which makes it very unlikely we will get them unless we have changed our current transfer policy or Levy has fallen victim to complete amnesia and leaves his chequebook in Pochs office by accident.

If we don't make any signings or we sign players that weren't Pochs first choice targets and we fail to make top 4 next season would you blame Levy and ENIC then? Or would you take the approach of "Well nobody is to blame" which frankly is simply a redundant way to look at things.

If I go outside and step in dog shit is nobody to blame?

If a car crashes is nobody to blame?

If I whip my dick out in public and start masturbating in front of everybody is nobody to blame?

It's a logical fallacy to suggest that blame is an irrelevance, if we fail to make top 4 next season then someone will be to blame at our club, that is a FACT, even if you don't like it and if we fail to sign the players our manager wants then our owners will be to blame, that is also a FACT, if we sign the players and fail to make top 4 then our manager and players will be to blame.

You can't just say "nobodies to blame" because it just means you always have an excuse to continue blindly following whatever the fuck our owners do and never hold them to account.

You talk about using our owners behaviour as a measuring stick as to if they will back our manager or do the right thing, well here's a measuring stick for you, no signings in 18 months and a squad that was depleted come the end of the season and our manager who is basically begging for signings.

That's a pretty good measuring stick imo.
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r-u-s-x said:
Yes largely, I think we have a decent squad and need to improve it. I hope last year was a bit of a freak on the injury front, this also led to poor performance's.

I think we will buy players this summer and trust the club to do the business. The thing that's got me going is the people not understanding the realities of our position and/or not waiting to see the outcome before wetting the bed.

This is an alright position but then they keep on going on about it, every conversation is just pay the money Levy. Multiple times in the same conversation, then misrepresenting others views just to win internet points.
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r-u-s-x said:
Yes that's how it works you only have a track record why you have a track record. This is the same in trading, in business and in relationships. You think otherwise?


It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently. Warren Buffett


Read more at: Warren Buffett Quotes
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I agree, Welcome to the dark side. No signings & you have no trust in levy & Enic. Airfixx will be fuming! bwahahah!
 
Macch said:
Yes. I believe he also said the same thing about Mendy about a week before he was sold to Real Madrid
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lol there is absolutely no chance Levy is going to get a cut price deal on Ndombele, Lyon will keep the player and sell him for more next window if nobody is interested this window, the fact that we even stand a chance of signing him is utterly incredible to me, he could sell for £70m in the current market, easy.

Brinksmanship isn't going to work with Aulas either,
 
AlabamaSpur said:
Not trying to be a jerk here, but its a freaking internet message board. Why you getting so bent out of shape over this? Its not like he fucked your wife on live TV or something.
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Works both ways mate.... Smug cunt is happy to sneer at and mock others.

As I've also noted, hasn't got the balls to quote or @ people when doing so.

Worm.
 
AlabamaSpur said:
Not trying to be a jerk here, but its a freaking internet message board. Why you getting so bent out of shape over this? Its not like he fucked your wife on live TV or something.
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Had him on ignore but had a feeling I knew who you were talking about and I was right LOL.

He self-projects, basically everything he accuses others of he indulges in himself, doesn't want to engage in reasonable discussion and the second you get him in a corner he reacts like a petulant child.

He craves the attention, that's why it's so much fun ignoring the cunt because I know it's tearing him up inside not responding to him isn't it Airfixx Airfixx ? Oh actually, don't bother responding because I can't read it anyway :levylol::kaneear:.

I want us to spend money like Man City and Liverpool...*waits for response*

Ahhhh silence...
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
Had him on ignore but had a feeling I knew who you were talking about and I was right LOL.

He self-projects, basically everything he accuses others of he indulges in himself, doesn't want to engage in reasonable discussion and the second you get him in a corner he reacts like a petulant child.

He craves the attention, that's why it's so much fun ignoring the cunt because I know it's tearing him up inside not responding to him isn't it Airfixx Airfixx ? Oh actually, don't bother responding because I can't read it anyway :levylol::kaneear:.
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You truly are a bit of a twat as well to be fair.
 
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