yeah but stats rarely tell the full story.Have you seen the stats for GLC goal/assists?
Nowhere near as good as Deli, even when Deli went off form. Same goes for Ndombele.
No way would I play either of those two in AMF ahead of Ali.
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yeah but stats rarely tell the full story.Have you seen the stats for GLC goal/assists?
Nowhere near as good as Deli, even when Deli went off form. Same goes for Ndombele.
No way would I play either of those two in AMF ahead of Ali.
If you cant see the difference between Gio and Winks then football probably isn't for you.Yea but across a whole season GLC isn't far ahead of Winks (if ahead at all) in his stats or play. So why does he get away with it and Winks not?
Sure but we want an ATM who has more than one goal and three assists in him since he joined the premier league a couple of years ago.yeah but stats rarely tell the full story.
Hiring NES has knocked the stuffing out of me. Grave reservations about Paratici already, and the players we are being linked with, but we shall see. It does not appear that Levy has stepped back from the footballing side of things, and then there is the familiarly glacial pace of negotiations, which begs the question as to whom is doing the negotiating. Looking like a cosmetic change from where I am sitting, here in my little mudhut in Ireland.Fair enough
What's made you so disillusioned out of interest?
I don't see how GLC has done anything to help the team succeed beyond what Winks has done, that's my point. GLC has no end product, 3 assists and 1 goal in his spurs career, some of which was played as ATM.If you cant see the difference between Gio and Winks then football probably isn't for you.
But how often was Gio actually played as an attacking mid? I seem to remember most of his games came as a two with Hojberg.Sure but we want an ATM who has more than one goal and three assists in him since he joined the premier league a couple of years ago.
I was actually just making the point that 90% of his highlights reel is nutmegs, I wasn't comparing him to anyone else. But, as you bring it up...Have you seen the stats for GLC goal/assists?
Nowhere near as good as Deli, even when Deli went off form. Same goes for Ndombele.
No way would I play either of those two in AMF ahead of Ali.
Please scroll down on GLC's stats here... Giovani Lo Celso Statistics | Premier LeagueBut how often was Gio actually played as an attacking mid? I seem to remember most of his games came as a two with Hojberg.
From that position he is more of a pre-assister. See ball to Tanganga for the recent goal against Woolwich
He gives us a bit of control and tenacity in the middle which Sissoko, Winks or Dele can't.
My point is that Winks Deli et al get shit with other under performers ie GLC, Ndomblele seem to get an easier ride, that's because they never did fuck all good to start with. Winks did have some good seasons so did Deli, moreso than Winks.I was actually just making the point that 90% of his highlights reel is nutmegs, I wasn't comparing him to anyone else. But, as you bring it up...
As someone else has just said, stats don't tell the full story. GLC looks usefully involved more than Deli does. GLC doesn't easily concede possession the way Deli does. GLC doesn't huff up his shoulders in a sulk, or alternatively just laugh, when he tries something and it goes wrong the way Deli does - in those situations, GLC runs back like crazy to try to atone for his error. He also presses much better. I don't completely ignore stats - that's as stupid as basing everything on them - but I do also let my eyes interpret the play as I watch (on internet I mean) the full 90 mins of every competitive game we play. And for me, even despite his continual injury set-backs, GLC has looked to me like he brings much more to the team than sub-par Deli.
I'm not anti-Deli by the way - I'd absolutely love him to get back to his best and start competing for a place in the team, and even the national team - but in the last couple of years, for me he has been a long way off that, and some way behind GLC. In my opinion of course - it's a subjective topic, you're welcome to think differently.
Dele was never be that creating force in our midfield.
I have absolutely no issue with self funded rich clubs spending more than us eg Utd, Liverpool, Real, even Woolwich
it’s the financially doped that kills me
Levy propably tood him to fuck off after we agreed the 60M Martinez dealDid Paratici go on holiday or something?
wHeRe ARe ThE SigNiNGS?
Paratici you mean, Italian clubs well known for their use of loans with options and with an Italian DoF and the fact we are looking at players in the Italian league it's pretty obvious it's Paratici not LevyTrust Levy to want to scrooge out a loan deal. Maybe Atalanta will take some of the moths from his wallet in part exchange.
Reservations over Romero, Gil, Gollini deals and potentially Tomiyasu/Martinez/Vlahovic?Hiring NES has knocked the stuffing out of me. Grave reservations about Paratici already, and the players we are being linked with, but we shall see. It does not appear that Levy has stepped back from the footballing side of things, and then there is the familiarly glacial pace of negotiations, which begs the question as to whom is doing the negotiating. Looking like a cosmetic change from where I am sitting, here in my little mudhut in Ireland.
Would take either of those Sheff Utd playersSheff Utd paid £22m for him so I doubt they will accept any bid lower than that.
While on about Sheff. Utd., I wouldn't mind Spurs going for Jayden Bogle.
Because he's shit, and Paratici knows it. We should look at players to upgrade the team, and I'd rather have Dier than Romagnoli.I still don't understand why we aren't looking into Alessio Romagnoli...
He has one year left on his contract and he's left-footed.
AC Milan was reported to be interested in Sissoko, so an added bonus might be if we can decrease the amount paid by offering Sissoko as part of the deal.
I've already outlined to you in my above post all the things that GLC has done to be thought of by most on here as a much better player than Deli in the last 2 years.My point is that Winks Deli et al get shit with other under performers ie GLC, Ndomblele seem to get an easier ride, that's because they never did fuck all good to start with. Winks did have some good seasons so did Deli, moreso than Winks.
What has GLC or Ndombele done that is so much better?
Stats don't mean anything. Lo Celso enables us way more than Dele Alli. It's also why he was brilliant in Copa America, even though he didn't score or assist.Look at GLC stats Giovani Lo Celso Statistics | Premier League
Someone explain why he should be AMF ahead of Deli?