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Transfers Summer 2026 Transfer Thread

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Papafeels said:
How is it a straw man? I responded to someone who said we shouldn't buy anymore players and only play players that have come through ffs. Most of our youth players play at that level when they leave. Not all of them are Harry Kane's.

We don't have the level of players coming through our academy that other clubs do. Name players that have slipped through the cracks in the last 5/6 years.
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The "he's not Harry Kane" line is another irritating straw man. They don't have to be one of the 5 best players to ever play for the club to help the team out. If you go back 6 years Troy Parrott must still have been in the Academy. You mean there was no time in the last 3 years when he couldn't have played first team minutes if we had handled him properly?

5 years ago must have been about the time Donley, Devine and Scarlett were getting games in the U21s as 16/17 year olds. The next year or the year after would have been when Mikey Moore and Lankshear started playing up a group with the U21s. All 5 of those have the ability to play for the first team, maybe they might still have a chance.

Would I rather watch them than watch Simons get rag dolled by average Premier League midfielders ... yes I would.
 
Crockett said:
The "he's not Harry Kane" line is another irritating straw man. They don't have to be one of the 5 best players to ever play for the club to help the team out. If you go back 6 years Troy Parrott must still have been in the Academy. You mean there was no time in the last 3 years when he couldn't have played first team minutes if we had handled him properly?

5 years ago must have been about the time Donley, Devine and Scarlett were getting games in the U21s as 16/17 year olds. The next year or the year after would have been when Mikey Moore and Lankshear started playing up a group with the U21s. All 5 of those have the ability to play for the first team, maybe they might still have a chance.

Would I rather watch them than watch Simons get rag dolled by average Premier League midfielders ... yes I would.
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I'd rather see Townsend than any left winger we've had in the new stadium era
 
CJJ said:
I'd rather see Townsend than any left winger we've had in the new stadium era
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Our stupid managers used to play Townsend on the right where he was dreadful. If he played left wing, he would have had a much better career. Not every left footed winger is Arjen Robben!

And yes I would have him ahead of Tel, Odobert, etc
 
Crockett said:
The "he's not Harry Kane" line is another irritating straw man. They don't have to be one of the 5 best players to ever play for the club to help the team out. If you go back 6 years Troy Parrott must still have been in the Academy. You mean there was no time in the last 3 years when he couldn't have played first team minutes if we had handled him properly?

5 years ago must have been about the time Donley, Devine and Scarlett were getting games in the U21s as 16/17 year olds. The next year or the year after would have been when Mikey Moore and Lankshear started playing up a group with the U21s. All 5 of those have the ability to play for the first team, maybe they might still have a chance.

Would I rather watch them than watch Simons get rag dolled by average Premier League midfielders ... yes I would.
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Again, I replied to someone that said not to sign players anymore and only use youth. We'll fly down the leagues. Troy Parrott has he stayed, and I know people that know him personally, would've never made it England. So moot point.

Donley, Devine and Scarlett are playing where? And they're the best of them. Most of them won't get past league 1 level. Also, Devine won't be here because he has a cheap as shit option to buy, so scratch him off. The rest are miles away.

That's your opinion. Can't change it. But the fact is, that the overwhelming majority of our young players don't get past championship level. You play players that are good enough, we don't have many of those. But if you want to see us go down, just playing out awful youth talent, more power to ye chap.
 
Papafeels said:
Again, I replied to someone that said not to sign players anymore and only use youth. We'll fly down the leagues. Troy Parrott has he stayed, and I know people that know him personally, would've never made it England. So moot point.

Donley, Devine and Scarlett are playing where? And they're the best of them. Most of them won't get past league 1 level. Also, Devine won't be here because he has a cheap as shit option to buy, so scratch him off. The rest are miles away.

That's your opinion. Can't change it. But the fact is, that the overwhelming majority of our young players don't get past championship level. You play players that are good enough, we don't have many of those. But if you want to see us go down, just playing out awful youth talent, more power to ye chap.
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So what I say is opinion and what you say is fact. In case you hadn't noticed, flying down the league is exactly what we have been doing.
I think you have a point, we are wasting each others time here.
 
Crockett said:
So what I say is opinion and what you say is fact. In case you hadn't noticed, flying down the league is exactly what we have been doing.
I think you have a point, we are wasting each others time here.
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I mean, factually speaking, the players from our youth teams are nowhere near the standard of those around us. The overwhelming majority of them get league 1 football, championship football, at best, but for maybe 3/4. And that was a 'golden generation'. If they were good enough, they'd be playing. The club would love to play HG talent, but they're miles off, as evidenced by their lack of minutes and appaearences.

The club needs to completely reset how they manage our underage teams. And just not signing anyone to play our youth players in a league as tough as the championship, is going to go one way, which was my point.
 
I genuinely think we'll be in for a shock if we do drop.

A lot of our senior players likely have relegation release clauses in their contracts (it should be negligence on their agents if they don't).

Further, the championship is not at all a league for lightly built players. Quality is lower, but grit is higher. I'm not at all convinced we'll have an easy time coming back up.
 
Pzabbythethird said:
I genuinely think we'll be in for a shock if we do drop.

A lot of our senior players likely have relegation release clauses in their contracts (it should be negligence on their agents if they don't).

Further, the championship is not at all a league for lightly built players. Quality is lower, but grit is higher. I'm not at all convinced we'll have an easy time coming back up.
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Why would we want to keep them?
I doubt if many of them expected relegation to be in their future, but even if they don't have clauses a lot of them should be shown the door.
 
Pzabbythethird said:
I genuinely think we'll be in for a shock if we do drop.

A lot of our senior players likely have relegation release clauses in their contracts (it should be negligence on their agents if they don't).

Further, the championship is not at all a league for lightly built players. Quality is lower, but grit is higher. I'm not at all convinced we'll have an easy time coming back up.
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I don't know, a shock implies that we wouldn't expect it. I doubt many would put money on us gaining automatic promotion from the Championship because you can guarantee that every single club we play will rise up to the occasion of playing at our stadium and the mentality at our club is soft as shit.

I don't want to see us get relegated and I pray we avoid it. But if we do, I'll be clinging to the potential silver lining of this being a catalyst for change. We need a comprehensive overhaul of pretty much every aspect of our club and maybe this will finally be the thing that gets the ball rolling. Lange and Vinai's roles become totally untenable too which is a slight bonus.
 
Crockett said:
This is such a straw man. You don't "just play our youth players", nobody with a brain in their head would do that.
What you do is create a meaningful pathway to the first team for the 3 or 4 best of them and we are shockingly bad at that.
The people that say we don't have the players in the youth set up with the talent have either never seen those lads play or have no idea what they are on about.
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Don't Bilbao do this. You have to be from the Basque region and played through their academy. They seem to do just fine.
 
Pzabbythethird said:
I genuinely think we'll be in for a shock if we do drop.

A lot of our senior players likely have relegation release clauses in their contracts (it should be negligence on their agents if they don't).

Further, the championship is not at all a league for lightly built players. Quality is lower, but grit is higher. I'm not at all convinced we'll have an easy time coming back up.
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If we were run competently there would be no reason that we couldn't do what Wolves did to get promoted and build what was essentially a top 8 Premier League side in the Championship with top young talent + champ experience + great manager to get promoted on the basis that our long term project is still way better than at least 10 Premier League clubs.

We 100% have the resources to do that, but considering that we haven't had a project since moving into the new stadium I wouldn't back them to do it.
 
_mehstg said:
Don't Bilbao do this. You have to be from the Basque region and played through their academy. They seem to do just fine.
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I think Moyes said Sociedad do something similar as well. There always have to be 6 players that came through the Academy in the first team squad on match day … something like that anyway.

I would love it if we did that. Every top talent in London would want to join Spurs.
 
Pzabbythethird said:
I genuinely think we'll be in for a shock if we do drop.

A lot of our senior players likely have relegation release clauses in their contracts (it should be negligence on their agents if they don't).

Further, the championship is not at all a league for lightly built players. Quality is lower, but grit is higher. I'm not at all convinced we'll have an easy time coming back up.
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I think some of our players would be in for a shock when they realise that there's nobody willing to pay their release clauses tbh...

What have any of them done to convince buyers to part with £30/40/50m???

Release clause doesn't just mean if we go down they can all leave, there will be individual fees specific to all of the players, likely set at more than we paid initially (which was often a fair whack despite the moaning we like to do), and they have to be paid in pretty much lump sums in order to activate.

Not to mention that the MGW fiasco last summer has demonstrated that a club can just totally ignore them anyway and there will be no repercussions.
 
Herclueless said:
I think some of our players would be in for a shock when they realise that there's nobody willing to pay their release clauses tbh...

What have any of them done to convince buyers to part with £30/40/50m???

Release clause doesn't just mean if we go down they can all leave, there will be individual fees specific to all of the players, likely set at more than we paid initially (which was often a fair whack despite the moaning we like to do), and they have to be paid in pretty much lump sums in order to activate.

Not to mention that the MGW fiasco last summer has demonstrated that a club can just totally ignore them anyway and there will be no repercussions.
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I doubt it actually. A release clause generally, sure.

A release clause precedented on the basis of relegation is negotiated for the player's benefit. So it would probably be a lower figure as a minimum (to protect the club) but allow the player to leave fairly easily since we were relegated.

Perhaps they didn't negotiate them because it wasn't even in the air of possibility at the time...
 
Pzabbythethird said:
I doubt it actually. A release clause generally, sure.

A release clause precedented on the basis of relegation is negotiated for the player's benefit. So it would probably be a lower figure as a minimum (to protect the club) but allow the player to leave fairly easily since we were relegated.

Perhaps they didn't negotiate them because it wasn't even in the air of possibility at the time...
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That really would be incompetence on the part of the player/agent, if the club has put in wage reduction clauses then every player would have insisted on this in response.

But it is a negotiation, the player can insist on whatever they want, but the club (especially considering it was Levy doing most of the deals) would not hamstring itself by agreeing to ludicrously low fees.

A general release clause you'd expect to be worked out to a good bit higher than the fee paid for the player, for a relegation clause I'd expect to be a little higher, but not much, but certainly not lower than the fee paid. So take Porro for example, his would likely be around the £40m we paid for him in the event of relegation, I can't see anyone looking to pay that for him. Any sale would then be on terms agreeable to the club.

That point encapsulates all kinds of factors, does the club think the player would be integral to a promotion push? Are his wages too much of a burden to carry in the Champo? Is the fee on offer high enough to make it worthwhile? Is the player psychologically important to the squad?

We don't know all the details obviously, but it's absolutely not going to be as easy as everyone is just free to leave. Look at the problems we've had selling players we've wanted rid of over the last decade, people aren't going to be queuing up for the players that have gotten Spurs relegated.
 
Herclueless said:
That really would be incompetence on the part of the player/agent, if the club has put in wage reduction clauses then every player would have insisted on this in response.

But it is a negotiation, the player can insist on whatever they want, but the club (especially considering it was Levy doing most of the deals) would not hamstring itself by agreeing to ludicrously low fees.

A general release clause you'd expect to be worked out to a good bit higher than the fee paid for the player, for a relegation clause I'd expect to be a little higher, but not much, but certainly not lower than the fee paid. So take Porro for example, his would likely be around the £40m we paid for him in the event of relegation, I can't see anyone looking to pay that for him. Any sale would then be on terms agreeable to the club.

That point encapsulates all kinds of factors, does the club think the player would be integral to a promotion push? Are his wages too much of a burden to carry in the Champo? Is the fee on offer high enough to make it worthwhile? Is the player psychologically important to the squad?

We don't know all the details obviously, but it's absolutely not going to be as easy as everyone is just free to leave. Look at the problems we've had selling players we've wanted rid of over the last decade, people aren't going to be queuing up for the players that have gotten Spurs relegated.
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I generally disagree. Relegation is a potential career killer for players, especially if you don't come right back up. They would insist on protection, since it's almost never one player's fault.

VdV, spence, Romero, bergvall, Simons, Maddison, would have no trouble finding suitors at a reasonable fee.
 
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