last year too thats a very good deal for us
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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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If we go for a 2 CB system, then it's Romero + a quality new addition as starters...knowing that Romero will miss a fair few games cause of Argentina call-ups, suspensions, injuries and the likes.
On the occasions Ange plays 3 CB: Romero is RCB, we need a beast at CCB and another quality signing at LCB...them two newbies can play together in a 2 when Rom is up to his old tricks.
I'm cool with Big Ben as a backup LCB, he'll do a job, same with Emerson at RCB...but I wouldn't trust either in a CB duo, unless we play a League 2 side at home in the FA Cup (which btw we're winning next season).
Happy to be proven wrong ofc, but I'm not convinced by Tapsoba as that 'elite' signing, and VdV still too raw. But who can we realistically get having finished P8, with no European footy and a limited budget? Lol to CCV and sacre bleu Lenglet.
Equally as important, let's do all we can to get rid of Dier, Tangs and Sanchez. Rodon didn't really shine at Rennes, but if it's between he & Lenglet for the 4th or 5th chair, well I'd rather it be the Cymru lad.
we are basically getting Maddison for 28m plus Winks lol.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we got Lenglet, but mainly because we'll have so many outs at the CB position. Two top CBs in (+ Lenglet) with Tanganga, Dier, and Davinson on the way out? I could see it.Seems like we have a number of CB options (spinning the plates innit) and Lenglet is just one of those.
Everyone stop wetting your pants!
>Romero
>Lenglet?
>Tapsoba?
>van der Ven/Tosin?
With Davies as potential CB and/or LB backup.
So Leicester are paying for Winks and giving him back to us on a free because they think he's shit?
Read the quote, not the headline
Also because [Spurs] have to spend £100m for six players, they go and spend that for one or two players.”
The Lenglet situation is a curious one.
Assessing him has nothing to do with scouting. He's been our player for a year, so we know all about his strengths & weaknesses, any underlying injuries, & his character. We're assessing a known quantity, not the informed guesswork of analytics, scouting reports, football grapevine.
Lenglet seems to be a good professional, who trains & prepares well (IIRC Conte said as much). He's comfortable on the ball, and likely would be even better with the attacking options Ange's tactics provide. So, in possession, he's a good option.
But defensively we can all see his vulnerabilty on the turn. When he's exposed 1v1 I never rate his chances.
Also, his Barca salary is ridiculous, similar to our top earners. So the cheap transfer fee is a given. The issue is finding a solution to his wages, which may involve a signing fee as big as the mooted £5m transfer fee, to persuade him eg to halve his wages down to around c£80-100k.
That's an expensive total package for a squad CB. Also, if say Romero & flashy new signing CB (Tapsoba, VDV2) are our first choices, in a season where we have far fewer games, will Lenglet be prepared to sit on the bench for weeks or months, given his French international & Barca history?
I'd wait until we unload Dier, Japhet, Sanchez, Rodon etc. And even then, I'd prefer a younger CB option, on a cheaper salary, with a high ceiling.
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I'm just surprised there wasn't (seemingly) any shenanigans by us and Leicester in the pricing of Maddison and Winks. They have a sell on clause for the former, so you'd have thought they'd have that in mind. Perhaps Winks goes for pennies and that in turn knocked down the Maddison price to reduce the sell on fee.
I've re read it and still can't see where he says that he's not happy with the players we signed.
Perhaps you can highlight it for me ?
I like this but Sarr as the inverted FB where Hojberg is
Disagree. Depends how he looks at earning over his career and the point at which he gets it. Usually selling players on, it's the bumper salaries that are the issue, not the transfer fee, it's likely the reason Le Celso and Tanguy are still here. They wont take a pay cut, and nobody can afford their wages and teams aren't keen to cause a mutiny within their squad. It basically locks us into a player we want rid of.
We can likely pay him less over the course of his contract by paying a lump up front, also he will then likely get first team football, rather than sitting on the bench, or getting loaned here there and everywhere from Barca.
28 isn't super young but fit players go on for much longer than they ever did (Perisic = 34) and with the U.S. and Saudi being a new outlet for players, paying decent fee and wages it's less of a risk.
He's far from my first choice but I can see it working if we were to get him for a very low price.
If true that's a decent fee. It's potentially the same price as Clement. That's why I can see a financial upside in that deal.
Excellent
I'm sure we'll be doing our utmost to make it seem the prices for the two deals are not linked.
Last thing we want is Norwich taking some sort of legal action, either through the courts or the football authorities.
During negotiations for Maddison, we probably asked Leicester if they were interested in any of our players. Once new coach Maresca said "Winksy", Levy tried to contain a huge grin, and then set out to persuade Winks to move to Leicester.
If Winks was not prepared to drop down to the Championship, the Maddison deal might still be in limbo.
To be fair it wasn't hard to predict. Most Geordie fans I know have always seemed to think they have some god-given right to be challenging for the PL title every year, not just since the blood money came in, but throughout the nearly 50 years I've been watching football. I can only assume the mentality comes from the remoteness of the location, i.e. believing yourselves to be the centre of the universe and other places just being there to make up the numbers. There's no other logical reason for them to have always thought that they should be fighting for the title every year, yet they all do and always have.
If we go a few goals behind, the bench isn't looking too good. Skipp? Gil? Sanchez? Dier?
Yeah.
I genuinely get the vibes comming out of Newcastle, this too is largely fuelled by the media that ignore the fact they are limited to what they can spend re FFP but the reality is their revenue is "only" £180m, they can't go around spunking money on players (there will be every dodgy devious deal that will push the envelope as we are seeing from their overvalued shirt deal and Chavs and Suadi Clubs buying all their overpriced mistakes right now).
That said what is funny is they truly think that this squad that barely had anyone at the World Cup last season (400-something mins vs Us with +3000 & CL) and no CL football that they think this is the norm for them. They think that us, Liverpool and Chavs will have our worst seasons in decades again this season (all of those teams had some of the highest mins played by their squad at the World Cup and also played a heavily condensed CL campaign.
I'll hold my hands up and praise Howe to the rafters if they finish in the top 4 in the season due to start (I'm not saying they will be back down to their usual lower mid-table finishes they are most certainly on the next peg down below us and Ange has to get his shit together at Spurs.
so you are saying:
£8m transfer fee
£5m signing on bonus
£13m total outlay
£80k per week
I see that as pretty low risk. £13m for an international defender (if he can get reselected) is really very low, and £80k per week. There are a shit ton of teams that can afford that if we have to flip