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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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So why haven't we landed our targets, if all we have to do is offer what we're willing to pay?
No one else is bidding for them, so the market value MUST be whatever we offer by your logic.
Funny how Spurs are required to accept a cheap offer, by our own fans no less, but are required to pay inflated demands. Funnily enough, also by our own fans.
I can't think of a single rival team that has fans that think like that, much less blurt it all over the internet.
Thanks for sharing.
It seems Hojbjerg is no longer wanted at Spurs whereas the players we want are all key for their respective teams .. hence, inflated fees.
We have really strong midfield options & it seems clear Hojbjerg will be at best a squad player. There’s legitimate doubts he can play the way the new coach wants.
With all that in mind 20-25 million-ish seems a pretty fair offer.
By the same people who think he can barely play football, don't think Atletico are taking it seriously into account.
I’m not a ‘Hojbjerg hater’ and think he can generally do a role, but in a possession based system where you want to play the ball quickly he’s going to be shown up quite a lot.
His biggest weaknesses are his lack of press resistance and how slowly he recycles the ball. That seems to be the antithesis of how Ange wants to play, hence the very press resistant Bissouma is getting all the love.
We do seem very open to selling, and Atletico will be aware of that.
Whilst I agree with your assessment completely, I don't think he's excusing it at all. He's just basically saying that our defence will be better than they were last year. That's it really.
They won't be good enough for us to get top 5, IMO, but I don't think they'll be the disaster they were last season.
Regardless, we should be looking to ensure our defensive improvement, with CB's suited to the way we want to play, not hope that the current crop will perform beyond their capabilities. If it means paying a bit over the odds then so be it.
We're open to selling because he wants to leave. He was very good vs West Ham and fine vs LCS, there are plenty of others I can point out who are more of a concern as far as fitting the system goes.
Some people have no idea what a common denominator is.
Someone attended the Daniel Levy school of negotiating. Can’t blame them for trying.
“EXCLUSIVE - The official offer from Galatasaray for Tanguy Ndombélé to Tottenham (with a 4 year payment plan) of €8 million was not accepted. Fenerbahçe is also interested. His club's testimonial expectations and player salary (net €4.7 million) are very high. It seems difficult. [Ertan Suzgun]”
In a nutshell.
Conviction often is sufficient. Make a player feel wanted, then show the courage of your convictions by getting the deal done.You seem to think if a club has conviction then that is SUFFICIENT to sign a player.
But players have interests and motivations and agency so asNotThatTedHughes has clearly laid out, your assertion doesn’t hold true in reality. It’s messy out there and we’re dealing with probabilities.
As I posted yesterday, Tapsoba has been silent on this, and I believe that personal terms have been agreed, even if they are tentative, so the only dynamic we need to change is that with the selling club. We want the player, so the responsibility lies with us to provide a deal that satisfies both them and us.
The sooner you stop pretending that you andYou seem to think if a club has conviction then that is SUFFICIENT to sign a player.
But players have interests and motivations and agency so as
NotThatTedHughes
aren't one and the same the sooner this forum becomes less tedious. It really is tiresome.
Yes, I'd take that too. As I posted earlier, it's actually profit after amortisation.
That's not really the point I was making though. We're EXPECTED, by an element of our fan base, to pony up whatever price a selling team demands, regardless of how overpriced they may be. Yet when we put a not unreasonable price on a player who was key for us last season, we're supposed to take whatever we're offered regardless.
It's not the offer that bothers me here, though it is insultingly low, it's the clamour to take the first offer, and the criticism levelled when we don't. With the polar opposite attitude when we're buying.
Yeah, I’ve got nothing better to do than to repeatedly switch users so that I can agree with myself on a fan forum.The sooner you stop pretending that you and
It really is tiresome.
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Someone attended the Daniel Levy school of negotiating. Can’t blame them for trying.
“EXCLUSIVE - The official offer from Galatasaray for Tanguy Ndombélé to Tottenham (with a 4 year payment plan) of €8 million was not accepted. Fenerbahçe is also interested. His club's testimonial expectations and player salary (net €4.7 million) are very high. It seems difficult. [Ertan Suzgun]”
Cor! I wish we were only paying €4.7m euro per year..... We're paying him nearly triple that.
Reality is that he’s going to screw every last penny he can. It’s not unlike Levy/ENIC tbh.
Rinse it bone dry.
I don’t blame him. As a fan I can hate what he’s (not) doing but it’s very likely to be the end of the gravy train for ole Tanguy. So he may as well take a leaf out of the ENIC textbook & max the fuck while he’s got a juicy contract.
I do blame him.
A contract is a written good faith. We pay him a wage, he earns it by performing to the best of his abilities.
So far he hasn't done that.
He's rinsed the club and us fans to date and you condone that behaviour?
https://twitter.com/altobelli13/status/1685096234225115137?s=46
The Bayern-Levy meeting was also postponed because the Tottenham boss has various things to do after the Singapore trip and is also plagued by jet lag. Both sides agreed that there was no need to rush anything at the moment. By mutual agreement, a new date was chosen...(1/2)
Bayern remains very optimistic about Kane. You have the player's word. PSG is still not an issue for him. Offsetting with Tel/loaning the talent is currently not an issue for either Bayern or Tel itself. (2/2)
The Bayern-Levy meeting was also postponed because the Tottenham boss has various things to do after the Singapore trip and is also plagued by jet lag. Both sides agreed that there was no need to rush anything at the moment. By mutual agreement, a new date was chosen...(1/2)
Bayern remains very optimistic about Kane. You have the player's word. PSG is still not an issue for him. Offsetting with Tel/loaning the talent is currently not an issue for either Bayern or Tel itself. (2/2)
I'd like to see both of them get more minutes....
At Rochdale.