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We don’t really have a strong hand. The player obviously wants to go, obviously won’t sign a new deal & has a year left. We’re a self sufficient club so losing our star on a free rather than earning 100m would be a really big blow.

Sounds like that’s about what they’re offering and it’s a fair offer. I’d rather just move on than spend the rest of the window playing chicken with them. I don’t really care if Bayern think they’ve ‘won’ or have bullied us, I care about getting the cash and investing in the team.
We're getting our business done regardless.

Do you really think Bayern are going to spend all Summer chasing after Kane, only to pull the plug when any comparably decent strikers are all pretty much going elsewhere?

I think you underestimate the strength of our hand here.

As much as I'd love Kane to stay, I think this deal will get done, but on our terms, not theirs.

They've spent the Summer putting on a full charm offensive and expecting Kane to agitate for the move. So far, nothing from his camp.

They've nailed their colours to the mast here, and will be hugely embarrassed if they don't pull off the 'coup' they were expecting in their arrogance.
 
That depends entirely on how you define winning. I don't define it as Levy getting one over on Bayern Munich, I define it as getting the best possible outcome for Spurs.
And are those two things mutually exclusive? At what point do you think it has moved from getting the best possible outcome to “Levy getting one over Bayern Munich”? How can we even make that determination when we have no idea what the actual bids have been aside for journalist reports?

I happen to agree it’s best to sell and reinvest, and have thought that for quite a while now. That said it’s in our best interest for Levy to extract as much as possible for him.
 
They really are the world's shittest negotiators


They are so used to bending German teams over (including dortmund)

Buying from PL
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And are those two things mutually exclusive? At what point do you think it has moved from getting the best possible outcome to “Levy getting one over Bayern Munich”? How can we even make that determination when we have no idea what the actual bids have been aside for journalist reports?

I happen to agree it’s best to sell and reinvest, and have thought that for quite a while now. That said it’s in our best interest for Levy to extract as much as possible for him.

It’s not in our best interest if we end up getting nothing because he overplays our hand. Which appears to be a very real prospect.

Is dragging it out to the final days worth the uncertainty for an extra 10m? Or the risk of getting no money?

It’s small time chairman stuff. Levy loves it, loves his reputation as a tough negotiator and revels in it.

And other teams must love sticking it to him when the shoe is on the other foot. And how much good does it actually do the club?

We’ve heard pretty consistent reports about the bids. They don’t seem unfair. If they’re all wrong fine, if they aren’t then well..
 
We're getting our business done regardless.

Do you really think Bayern are going to spend all Summer chasing after Kane, only to pull the plug when any comparably decent strikers are all pretty much going elsewhere?

I think you underestimate the strength of our hand here.

As much as I'd love Kane to stay, I think this deal will get done, but on our terms, not theirs.

They've spent the Summer putting on a full charm offensive and expecting Kane to agitate for the move. So far, nothing from his camp.

They've nailed their colours to the mast here, and will be hugely embarrassed if they don't pull off the 'coup' they were expecting in their arrogance.

They’ll absolutely pull the plug if they think they’re getting shafted. Bayern aren’t PSG, they never pay insane fees. There will be no panic button press.

I don’t - it sucks. Player doesn’t want to be here, seems desperate to leave in fact, and has one year left. If we fail to sell this summer then almost certainly he ends up at a rival for free. Bayern know this. Where’s the strength of this hand?

Seems like Kane has made his thoughts extremely clear. He’s been careful to not repeat the errors of the Neville interview but he’s obviously looking for the move. He doesn’t need to force his way out with only a year left.
 
They’ll absolutely pull the plug if they think they’re getting shafted. Bayern aren’t PSG, they never pay insane fees. There will be no panic button press.

I don’t - it sucks. Player doesn’t want to be here, seems desperate to leave in fact, and has one year left. If we fail to sell this summer then almost certainly he ends up at a rival for free. Bayern know this. Where’s the strength of this hand?

Seems like Kane has made his thoughts extremely clear. He’s been careful to not repeat the errors of the Neville interview but he’s obviously looking for the move. He doesn’t need to force his way out with only a year left.
Nah, he's staying. Just a bunch of master baiters sucking everyone in. Quite impressive how much mileage they've gotten from this window, but I guess this is the last time they can really push it this far.
 
They’ll absolutely pull the plug if they think they’re getting shafted. Bayern aren’t PSG, they never pay insane fees. There will be no panic button press.

I don’t - it sucks. Player doesn’t want to be here, seems desperate to leave in fact, and has one year left. If we fail to sell this summer then almost certainly he ends up at a rival for free. Bayern know this. Where’s the strength of this hand?

Seems like Kane has made his thoughts extremely clear. He’s been careful to not repeat the errors of the Neville interview but he’s obviously looking for the move. He doesn’t need to force his way out with only a year left.
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. What we're asking for him isn't insane, considering the way the market is now. Where are they going to get the same quality for a lesser price elsewhere? Kane guarantees goals. There are few players in the World that you can say that about, and none of the rest are available.

Bayern know that if they don't get him now, they're never getting him. That's the strength of the hand.

Whether Kane needs to force his way out or not is irrelevant, where Bayern are concerned. They have this one window of opportunity to get him.

All in my opinion of course. There's merit in both arguments, so we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out.
 
It’s not in our best interest if we end up getting nothing because he overplays our hand. Which appears to be a very real prospect.

Is dragging it out to the final days worth the uncertainty for an extra 10m? Or the risk of getting no money?

It’s small time chairman stuff. Levy loves it, loves his reputation as a tough negotiator and revels in it.

And other teams must love sticking it to him when the shoe is on the other foot. And how much good does it actually do the club?

So if he’s overplayed his hand so much, how did he get BM to move their bid from 60 or 70 million (I can’t remember what the first one was supposed to be) to upwards of 100 million? Would it had better if we left 20-30 million on the table just so we could be sure we got something? What if there is a real prospect that Kane would enter into negotiations if there was no move like a few have reported?

You’re making this out to be Levy irrationally haggling over 10 million when the reality is far more complicated.

We’ve heard pretty consistent reports about the bids. They don’t seem unfair. If they’re all wrong fine, if they aren’t then well..
Isn’t that exactly what you’re criticizing him on though? You’re relying on the accuracy of the information and using your thoughts on what’s fair or not. We also don’t know shit about the add ons or payment structure. There’s no way BM are handing over anything significant of that fee in a big upfront payment.
 
So if he’s overplayed his hand so much, how did he get BM to move their bid from 60 or 70 million (I can’t remember what the first one was supposed to be) to upwards of 100 million? Would it had better if we left 20-30 million on the table just so we could be sure we got something? What if there is a real prospect that Kane would enter into negotiations if there was no move like a few have reported?

You’re making this out to be Levy irrationally haggling over 10 million when the reality is far more complicated.


Isn’t that exactly what you’re criticizing him on though? You’re relying on the accuracy of the information and using your thoughts on what’s fair or not. We also don’t know shit about the add ons or payment structure. There’s no way BM are handing over anything significant of that fee in a big upfront payment.
Whatever one feels about Levy, he is negotiating for the club and has to be backed 100%.
The club is bigger than the player!
 
''In an interview with RMC Sport, Montpellier president Laurent Nicollin revealed that Tottenham Hotspur are eyeing a potential move for their young striker, Elye Wahi.''


I quite like this kid, but I have a feeling it's just the owner trying to get Chelsea to up their offer.
 
What's changed with Kane all of a sudden?

I remember fans in here were begging us to sell him to the richest club in the world at the time (Man City) for a bargain fee, but now they want over £100mil from a foreign club
 
Do you think the current amount of money he has spent will come out of the Kane money?
We’ve been spending more than has come in the last few windows so we have a negative net. Assuming that they were probably planning on doing the same this year — without selling Harry — then our net might now be lower than prior windows (where we’ve barely sold anyone of note other than Bergwijn).
Still, the more we get for Harry, the more our actual spend us likely to be — perhaps not all spent in this window — but it should certainly raise the kitty.
 
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