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It’s really sad, I think this is our best chance at a top 4/cup run in years.

Chelsea in shambles, United in transition (last year with Glazers), Liverpool rebuilding, Newcastle not fully complete

all of those teams are going to be way way way richer and more capable than us in next summer’s transfer window, and will likely continue to leave our spending behind

But no, we’re unable to sell one fucking player other than Harry Kane for over 2 months, and as a result we haven’t gotten Ange what he needs to challenge the top of the league.

Shambles.

Are you serious? This is a rebuild season.
 
Didn’t stop those clubs bringing in the players they needed though

Definitively? I don't think either of us are in a position to say that.... (Nor are we about Spurs.... We could quite possibly end this window with 5 more outs and still not buy anymore and will be none the wiser.)

However:

- Man U are up to their neck with FFP and couldn't afford to play hard this season....... That's Man U, FFS; they always have money. Dead food players on big wages will undoubtedly not have helped that situ.

- Chavs have been gifted a hard reset of their accounts by the UK gov and now the Saudis so funnily enough they come up smelling of roses like the always fucking do. However, Bakayoko, Barkley & Drinkwater was a midfield all bought and released at the end of their deals and barely ever played..... No doubt other examples there too as their trf ops are a bombsite; even before the Todd.

- Arse missed out on Mudryk & Vlahovic over the last 18 months... The former was absolutely down to money.... Perhaps if they hadn't been paying Calumn Chambers 130kpw for the prev. 5 years only to release him for nothing (ditto Rob Holding on whatever he was earning, losing Lazazette for free, paying PEA off to leave on a free etc.) they might have been able to match the chav's wages and get Mudryk or blow a semi-skint Juve out of the water and get the striker they STILL need.


........Truth is; "only Spurs" is never ONLY Spurs.
 
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All this requires a proper football structure and playing philosophy. This is where I think Levy has failed. If he had established that during the peak Poch years we would be cruising now. Hopefully this is what we're doing now, but it'll take a few years to see the fruits of it. And it should not only be on the player side, but also on the manager side. It will be very important when Ange leaves for the next manager to be a continuation (or a tweak) of his philosophy rather than someone completely different.
 
It’s really sad, I think this is our best chance at a top 4/cup run in years.

We actually got top 4 the season before last. Top 4 and a cup was the target (expectation?) last season too......

Chelsea in shambles, United in transition (last year with Glazers), Liverpool rebuilding, Newcastle not fully complete

all of those teams are going to be way way way richer and more capable than us in next summer’s transfer window, and will likely continue to leave our spending behind

But no, we’re unable to sell one fucking player other than Harry Kane for over 2 months, and as a result we haven’t gotten Ange what he needs to challenge the top of the league.

Shambles.

3 months ago it was "as long as we get pretty football and something to believe in again - even without Europe - I'll be content for now and accept 6th-8th next season"...... After 2 games and a glimour of what people actually asked for being possible; expectations get re-set and it's time to get gassed up all over again.....

Now it's:

"must go all out for top 4 and"

"Ours squad isn't complete enough for Ange to challenge" (by challenge; implying title challenge)"


So SO predictable.
 
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Hilarious that bastoni is on another level to lenglet. Bastoni had an excellent game vs man City. Is highly regarded in italy to this day, and wasn't a player in poor form who a big team were trying to cast off. In fact inter wanted to keep him.

While we are blaming conte for richarlison and porro (who remains a useful player by the way), let's do the same and congratulate him for bissouma, bentancur, romero, and udogie...
Romero was bought prior to Conte arriving. Would Udogie have gotten minutes under Conte, or would he have wanted a more established LWB? We'll never know. Bissouma was boght under Conte, but he hardly played him. And as far as Bastoni is concerned, would he have been able to play in a high line 4 man defense and look equally as good?

So I'm not so sure what we should be thanking Conte for.
 
Fair point.

If Sanchez only plays in a handful of games, it’s fair to say selling him for 10m is probably the better option.

However, if there’s a long term injury to Romero, vdv, or a 3rd choice CB, and Sanchez ends up playing 20 games instead of dier, it could make or break the season. He’s already played 75 minutes out of 180.

I’d probably prefer to keep Sanchez because I never want to see dier play again but your argument is a good one.

The thought of Dier or Sanchez pulling on our shirt again fills me with dread. The more I think of it the more I hope we push on with another signing there almost more than another striker. We cant afford starting games with those two playing, it is like starting the game one nil down.
 
Seen a lot of people that want Sanchez to stay now, and for Dier to leave. Assuming Tottenham sign another CB this window, this debate is between who gets to be FOURTH choice CB.

Both these players’ contracts expire next summer in 2024. Spurs has two confirmed offers from Galatasaray and Spartak for Sanchez, while Dier has none. Is the difference in quality between these two that big, to the point where the club should be rejecting £8-12m offers for Sanchez just to force Dier out of the door one season early?

There is no denying that Sanchez is probably the better of the two for this system, but in a season where minutes for FOURTH choice CB will be very scarce, is it worth it to reject guaranteed money for Sanchez when both will be out of contract next summer? The difference between Dier and Sanchez isn’t that much anyway, and for me Dier is better on the ball than him

It’s a no brainer for me, i’d much rather keep Dier for one more season as 4th choice and take the money for Sanchez. Apologies for the essay
As things currently stand with no CBs incoming Sanchez would be 3rd choice CB, not 4th. So unless you want Dier to be the 3rd choice (yikes!), you hang on to Sanchez.
 
Are you serious? This is a rebuild season.
No I know, I’m not disagreeing with that, it’s a comment on the state of the league, that there exists a real opportunity this year.

However, once Newcastle, United, and Chelsea’s projects begin to develop, with the insane amount of financial backing they have, they will be as out of reach as City are.

Oil money makes the game and league unfair.
 
Levy and ENIC have all the urgency of a snail, coming up to two weeks since we sold our best player and still no new forward.

Yes, we've made a good start and scored some goals but not a single one has come from our preferred front three, but a COUPLE of assists.

That's worrying, it should be anyway but we all know Levy and ENIC aren't in it for the Glory and expect a manager to perform miracles.
 
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Starting to feel like 'Player Power FC'. Why has it come to this?
The glut of players with an attitude like Spurs are their country club to which they have a life membership is a direct consequence of the decision to hand out long term deals to our existing squad while not bringing in suitable competition to challenge them during the critical moment of Poch's tenure, then sacking Poch, and Jose, and Nuno, and Conte, and Stellini, while never holding that tenured leadership group of players responsible for their years and years of coming up short in critical moments.

The disappearance of the competitive sporting mentality that is absolutely vital in professional football has been shocking and disheartening to see.

Correcting that is Ange's initial mission above all else and early signs look very promising. But that's why I'm shouting from the rafters that the guys responsible for that diseased culture cannot be allowed a way back into the team the way they have ALWAYS been given a way back into the team in the past.
 
All this requires a proper football structure and playing philosophy. This is where I think Levy has failed. If he had established that during the peak Poch years we would be cruising now. Hopefully this is what we're doing now, but it'll take a few years to see the fruits of it. And it should not only be on the player side, but also on the manager side. It will be very important when Ange leaves for the next manager to be a continuation (or a tweak) of his philosophy rather than someone completely different.
Agreed.

I think that video made a good point which shouldn't be ignored (for us as much as Brighton): we're attractive to players because we're still a bit shit in some areas. I'm paraphrasing, but the point was players look at their opportunities at 'bigger' clubs with first 11 and bench full of internationals and don't fancy toiling in the shadows for a few years. But Brighton has a seaside (shit beach) and you're more likely to slot straight into their first team and be spotted for MEGAbucks.

I mean, it's quite likely that some players are looking at us and going 'I can do better than [so and so]' and they will still have a level they can go up from here (for the time being).

So... where are they?
 
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