Complete and utter dickheads !
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Complete and utter dickheads !
Yeah but still …
Most Europeans I know too (because we are liberals, in a global context much more so).
Qatar is an interesting point in case. They aren't really the problem, as they are merely doing and saying what we ourselves tell foreigners who want to dictate our behaviour and values: Do as we do here, or f*ck off.
The real difference lies in the sheer echo chamber of values we live in; For all our alledged supremacy in rationality and logics, and for all our interest in "multiculture", "pluralism" and "tolerence", we STILL just cannot f*cking grasp how someone else could think differently to us.
And without the booze most of them wouldn’t say boo to a goose
or a gander for that matter!
Well, one of the African members of the FIFA executive committee that they allegedly bribed in a hotel room in Angola for 1.5 million dollars is also a representative on the International Olympic Committee. Seriously. He probably could have offered a ‘twofer’.
I don’t believe that’s the case. We fully understand that someone else thinks differently to us. What we don’t understand is why we should give equal credence to their differing values.
I, for one, am glad that we don’t. I’m not a big fan of moral relativism. Not all cultures are equal.
Iranian women - before and after the Islamic Revolution
Images show Iranian women pictured before and after the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
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I wish you were right, but unfortunately that isn't the case, as our conduct in regards to Qatar proves.
We might superficially understand they think differently, but we can't process that into moderating our behaviour towards them. We are just insulted they don't do what we tell them to.
Like you, I am no moral relativist either. But in a global perspective I am a liberal. Unfortunately, less than perhaps 15-20% of the earths population are.
Shortly we will come head to head with China too. When we go looking for allies for that one, we will do well to respect their differences to us, rather than lord it like insulted, do-good'ing post-colonials.
Your point of view is interesting but I cannot understand it.
Do you think we should respect the repression of homosexuals? What would “moderation” look like?
Are you suggesting that (much) of the Arab-world is willingly living under Fundamentalist Islamic Authoritarian/Totalitarian regimes?
I am saying that most of the world doesn't seem to share our view of homosexuality, and in our self-absorbed universe we tend to forget that.
Your question is interesting. Why would the world care what I "think"? Or what you "think"?
FoxSports1 just announced Messi to Inter Miami (MLS) in the summer.
Are you suggesting, they would legalise homosexuality instantly if not?
Could you give me some specific countries from the arab spring, where the rights of homosexuals were on the agenda, let alone delivered?
What and who's conduct is that specifically?
will ronaldo go there i reckon, everyone wanted these 2 in the same team, whether his ego still thinks he can play top level who knows
No idea about CR7.
Gotta admit I'm a little surprised MLS landed Messi... huge news for the league tho.
Lionel Messi set to agree deal to join Inter Miami next season
Inter Miami are close to agreeing a deal with Lionel Messi, with the US club confident that the Argentina superstar will sign after the World Cup here in Qatar.
www.thetimes.co.uk
It's already legal in some Arab nation-states.
Considering that the Arab world is more hostile towards LGBTQ than most, I'd think it would be low on their priority list.
"A report from the Pew Research Center released in June showed that the Arab countries, like other predominantly Muslim countries in Africa, are among the least accepting of homosexuality in the world. In Egypt, 95% of respondents said homosexuality should not be accepted; in Tunisia, 94%."
The irony of all this is that European colonialism is responsible for the criminalisation of homosexuality in much of that part of the world.
These anti gay laws are based on religious prejudice. As religion is all utter bunk, the anti gay bias is ipso facto bunk itself
Well, I guess that was a big fat no to my question then.
But your quote is interesting. That idea is another product of western liberal superiority complex. The sheer conviction, that only we are capable of thinking up or enforcing radical ideas, for good or for bad, e.g. homophobia.