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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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They'll get it.
Meanwhile, we sign players like Ndombele, Sessegnon, GLC, Richarlison, Gil etc and end up having to give them away .

Why?

I swear Chelsea are just sending money out the back door somehow to clubs to buy them.
Tottenham seem to have a habit of holding onto players longer than necessary, often to our detriment. Take Bryan Gil, for example—he’s been with us for four years, and it’s been clear for some time that he struggles to adapt to the Premier League. After his first season, we might have been better off cashing in.

The same could be said for Bissouma and Richarlison. While both showed promise, their performances haven’t justified the investment, and perhaps we missed the window to recoup value. Ndombele is another case where we held on too long, hoping for a turnaround that never came.

Lo Celso’s situation is particularly frustrating. We signed him early to save money, but had we waited a few weeks, we might have seen signs of recurring injury issues. These decisions suggest a pattern of short-term thinking and reluctance to cut losses.

I’m not saying every transfer will be perfect, but we need to be more decisive and realistic about when a player isn’t working out. Sentimentality and sunk cost shouldn’t drive our strategy.
 
Tottenham seem to have a habit of holding onto players longer than necessary, often to our detriment. Take Bryan Gil, for example—he’s been with us for four years, and it’s been clear for some time that he struggles to adapt to the Premier League. After his first season, we might have been better off cashing in.

The same could be said for Bissouma and Richarlison. While both showed promise, their performances haven’t justified the investment, and perhaps we missed the window to recoup value. Ndombele is another case where we held on too long, hoping for a turnaround that never came.

Lo Celso’s situation is particularly frustrating. We signed him early to save money, but had we waited a few weeks, we might have seen signs of recurring injury issues. These decisions suggest a pattern of short-term thinking and reluctance to cut losses.

I’m not saying every transfer will be perfect, but we need to be more decisive and realistic about when a player isn’t working out. Sentimentality and sunk cost shouldn’t drive our strategy.
Needless to say, I was pilloried on here for suggesting we don't make Lo Celso permanent.
I could see a mile away he wasn't up to it.
 
A real ambitious owner would get…
1. Rodrygo to replace Son
2. Get Paz, Eze or Akliouche for number 10
3. Get Ederson for 6/8
4. Get Robinson for LB
5. Get Hincapie or Guehi for LCB

Bare minimum I’d take 1, 2 and 5.
Absolutely. And let's be real, that window isn't making us a challenger to liverpool this season but it at least shows some kind of intent to catch up.

I mean. Again - I am not denying that club should have done more with this window.
It is reasonable to expect more than we have done and I am pissed that Levy, Lange and co have not added more faces to starting XI by now.

But people really seem bit simple here... if we are talking about Rodrygo, Eze, Ederson, Robinson and Guehi... we are talking about outlay of 90+65+55+45+60 = 315 million euros on top of current outlay of 145 million (!) so in total 460 million EUR.
That would be like what ? Based on my knowledge and estimation, I believe it would be world record transfer window of any club in existence ?! I checked that while Chelsea did spend absurd amounts in 22/23 season, their spenditure was 300 mil in summer window + 330 mil in winter window.

So not really - this is not about "real ambitious owners" stuff. This would be wet dream of 6y kid and something that NO OWNER OR NOW CLUB HAS NEVER DONE IN HISTORY. Get even some little dust of realism here, please :D .
 
The pattern is this:

MGW - opportunistic because his release clause was lower than Forest's value of the player (they would never accept 60m without release clause)
Palhinha - opportunistic because Bayern wanted rid
Kudus - opportunistic because WHU had to sell

We don't target the best players for Frank, we target players with value
I agree on this. Just didn't see this in the post I quoted.
 
Part of the reason whey we are in this mess, is that for a large amount of time, we abandoned what actually made us good in the market.

A club with our restrictions should be focusing on:

1) Young gems from Europe and beyond, who have been slightly overlooked (Modric, Eriksen, Son).

2) young gems from the football league/relegated teams (Carrick, Defoe, Dele, Bale, Lennon, Rose, Walker, )

3) slightly overlooked players who are approaching their peak (Berbatov, Alderweireld, Dembele, Vertonghen, Lloris, Trippier)

4) academy players who either turn into quality first teamers (Kane) or make a profit for the club in sales after being showcased through loans/a spell in the team (Skipp).

The obsession with “ready made” or experience inevitably leads to us signing absolute mediocrity. Doherty, Hojbjerg, Richarlison, Werner. Palhinha is more of the same, as Grealish will be and people just don’t learn this lesson. The more of these players we’ve signed, the worse we have become

The scariest part is that we are particularly vulnerable to this because the club is still scarred by Lo Celso and Ndombele flopping (ignoring that EVERY big team has flops and they still keep going), and the club behaves like Vultures in the market.
 
Just goes to show how "perception" isn't especially important eh?



We still need to do more of course, but Kudus & JP need to bomb pretty hard to match up to the duds of 2019.

Haha touché, okay the perception that this is a bad window may turn out to not be accurate. Hopefully that'll be the case! At this time though knowing what we know it's hard to paint the rosiest picture. The perception is based on current standing and past knowledge of how Levy does things.

Kudus and Palhinha I like and are going to do well I think. Not thinking they'll be duds at all.

We definitely need to do more, that is where this perception of an awfully bad window is coming from. That is my reasoning for saying it's shaping up to be terrible... Not dissing those we have signed already.
Losing Madders and Kulu is a major problem. It's a struggle holding the ball up there without Solanke, now no #10s, and the rest of the team are mostly not highly technical and good at keeping the ball. It's concerning.

Kudus aside we are not really striking any fear into teams with our attack right now. Hopefully things will click but it's not looking great right now. We have lost Sonny but appear unconcerned and will just use untested Tel and Odobert there. I like the 2 of them but can they handle it? What if they can't? It's rather fly by the seat of your pants, and not expected behavior of a supposed big and rich team. The evidence is not saying those 2 are Yamal like and can be trusted.
Hell will freeze over before we get even a whiff of a possible monitoring situation of a LB!

There are many things here about this window that seem to be snuffing out the vibes after Bilbao. It's frustrating instead of building and looking all over it, we are bumbling around.
We are not known for doing what's required, what is needed for the betterment of the football team. We are known for penny pinching, swooping like vultures when 'opportunities' appear. So the chances of this window getting that much better are quite slim.

It's going to be a shame if that turns out to be the case and potentially a very damaging outcome long term I think.
 
True, but to use an educational analogy, whilst the #1 importance to a student is the grade they achieve in an exam, they know that the more revision they do in preparation for that exam, the better their chances of achieving a higher grade. Given our league performance over the last season and a half, it feels like we should have had a clear 'revision' plan mapped out long ago... instead, it looks like we're trying to do a bit of last minute cramming.

I think you're a bit off-piste mate....

The convo was comparing Summer 19 to this one and projecting which one was the biggest flop.
 
Tottenham seem to have a habit of holding onto players longer than necessary, often to our detriment. Take Bryan Gil, for example—he’s been with us for four years, and it’s been clear for some time that he struggles to adapt to the Premier League. After his first season, we might have been better off cashing in.

The same could be said for Bissouma and Richarlison. While both showed promise, their performances haven’t justified the investment, and perhaps we missed the window to recoup value. Ndombele is another case where we held on too long, hoping for a turnaround that never came.

Lo Celso’s situation is particularly frustrating. We signed him early to save money, but had we waited a few weeks, we might have seen signs of recurring injury issues. These decisions suggest a pattern of short-term thinking and reluctance to cut losses.

I’m not saying every transfer will be perfect, but we need to be more decisive and realistic about when a player isn’t working out. Sentimentality and sunk cost shouldn’t drive our strategy.
Two fundamental problems

1. You need a buyer
2. You have to deal with Levy

With Ndombele, nobody did their homework on his lifestyle. Once we gave him 200k a week, he was here for the full five. Even if he was playing with the kids he weren't giving up that pay cheque.
 
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