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Transfers The Summer Transfer Thread 2025

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Ye Richard Arlison Richard Arlison I don't get what you're trying to say tbh.

None of those players listed can be described as "punts". What exactly is your definition of the word "punt"? just because the player is at a lesser team and he so happens to be on a lower wage it's a punt?
 
Richard Arlison said:
Depends on what your goal is.

This squad is definitely good enough to finish 5-8th if we don’t have European football.

The fact that we haven’t is on the manager imo,

If the target is to compete for multiple trophies and hopefully win one of them then the squad is miles off it right now because we decided to gamble on building the depth with young players on low wages.
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I refer you to your post that I responded to and echo my reply.
 
kingdawson said:
Ye Richard Arlison Richard Arlison I don't get what you're trying to say tbh.

None of those players listed can be described as "punts". What exactly is your definition of the word "punt"? just because the player is at a lesser team and he so happens to be on a lower wage it's a punt?
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Just gymnastics to back up a claim that reality won't support.
 
You can add Ndombele and Richarlison to that list as well.

Around 120m spent on both with Ndombele being on 200k p/w.

These are not "punts". These are attempts at signing proven players of a certain quality that for one reason or another didn't work (and I really wanted us to sign both).
 
kingdawson said:
Ye Richard Arlison Richard Arlison I don't get what you're trying to say tbh.

None of those players listed can be described as "punts". What exactly is your definition of the word "punt"? just because the player is at a lesser team and he so happens to be on a lower wage it's a punt?
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I’m saying the best players attract the biggest wage offers.

The market is competing for the best players and the players who more teams are sure about will get more competition for their signature and better wage offers.

As soon as more clubs are sure about a player, under Levy that’s when we step out and leave others to it.

We prefer to try and find top players without paying top wages.

As Spurs fans we know that the players like Nico Williams, Osimhen, Kvaratshkelia etc won’t be coming to Spurs and they won’t be coming even when we have champions league football and a squad that’s close to winning. We saw that when we were at that stage.

And we all know why.
 
kingdawson said:
You can add Ndombele and Richarlison to that list as well.

Around 120m spent on both with Ndombele being on 200k p/w.

These are not "punts". These are attempts at signing proven players of a certain quality that for one reason or another didn't work (and I really wanted us to sign both).
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Tanguy had issues with his attitude and fitness levels hanging over him before we signed him. We took a punt that he was past that.

Richy was less of a punt, I agree. Airfixx Airfixx we can add him to the list of rare occasions. I think Chelsea even tried to hijack once we’d agreed lower wages with him.

We’ve been unlucky with Richarlison because he has scored goals when fit but his body is broken. Was it broken before we signed him? If not how did we allow him to get broken.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Tanguy had issues with his attitude and fitness levels hanging over him before we signed him. We took a punt that he was past that.

Richy was less of a punt, I agree. Airfixx Airfixx we can add him to the list of rare occasions. I think Chelsea even tried to hijack once we’d agreed lower wages with him.

We’ve been unlucky with Richarlison because he has scored goals when fit but his body is broken. Was it broken before we signed him? If not how did we allow him to get broken.
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Ndombele was wanted by numerous big clubs at time of signing. We showed ambition even attempting to go for him as he was one of the hottest prospects in world football at the time and the general belief was that he was going to be one of the best midfielders at the time.

It was a risk...it was not a punt.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Tanguy had issues with his attitude and fitness levels hanging over him before we signed him. We took a punt that he was past that.

Richy was less of a punt, I agree. Airfixx Airfixx we can add him to the list of rare occasions. I think Chelsea even tried to hijack once we’d agreed lower wages with him.

We’ve been unlucky with Richarlison because he has scored goals when fit but his body is broken. Was it broken before we signed him? If not how did we allow him to get broken.
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EVERY player is a punt then.

Di Maria > Man U..... He was was one of the highest performing players in the world at the time... Was prized from a rich club and being Utd. they payed him mega-wages too....... Yet he was still a bust.


Conversely; you had the temerity to argue that Darwin Nunez was a "ready made star" a month or two ago..... Yet he came from a lesser league, from a smaller team, is paid less than Romero (eg) and yet commonly gets likened to Andy Carrol.


You're nothing if not inconsistent.
 
kingdawson said:
Ndombele was wanted by numerous big clubs at time of signing. We showed ambition even attempting to go for him as he was one of the hottest prospects in world football at the time and the general belief was that he was going to be one of the best midfielders at the time.

It was a risk...it was not a punt.
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Maybe we are seeing risk and punt differently.


IMO every signing has a degrees of gamble/punt to it.

Either the gamble is weighted against the financial risk of wages and transfer fee or it’s weighted against the quality of player not being as good.


Our model under Levy leans towards the latter.
 
It’s too subjective to use the word ‘punt’.

If you think about it, everyone derides the window where we bought Saha and Nelson. They weren’t considered good enough for what we wanted to achieve.

To me you can’t call them punts though, they were players who had a lot of minutes in the prem, Saha had a number of goals at Fulham and United… at the time was I impressed? Maybe not so much but would I say he was a punt? No. Same with Nelson, league experience and was an important player for Blackburn.

Defoe, Kanoute, Kranjcar, Crouch… I wouldn’t refer to them as points tbh, not always fantastic scouting, and we know we don’t buy big players for big money… but I feel like basically any player could be argued as a punt if you change the context enough?
 
Silvio Dante said:
I was, and it sounds like that's the market we'll be fishing in. Home grown disgruntled relegation fodder is Levy's dream signing.
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Morecambe and Carlisle United both look set to go down from Division 2


nice GIF
 
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