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We have quality players? That’s news to me.
Last season, without defenders, our defence was shit.
This season, without attackers, our attack is shit.
Last season, without defenders, our defence was shit.
This season, without attackers, our attack is shit.
Our attack and defence are both shit this season.
Midfield been shit
Head Coach is shit
I'll say it again. You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter. That's what the Europa League Trophy win was. A turd rolled in glitter. Boy, what a wonderful turd it was. Until the glitter fell off.
No - we really aren't - we have no control over the ability of the squad - we have control over how we support them - it is, in fact, more pertinent to discuss what we can do as fans to support the players and team than endlessly talking about how shit we find x player or how much we hate the manager.
What about Emerson -
either way -
It doesnt help does it?
Am I missing something here?
Who on here thinks creating a negative atmosphere in the middle of a game is going to have a positive effect on the game?
You're using West Ham as case study for where we want to aspire?
Look, I just think this toxicity doesn't help.
Sorry but you are just wrong.
THFC are a big club.
Too big for Daniel Levy and Thomas Frank who are both time wasters.
It is better for Spurs supporters to reject the regime that has overseen the drift into mediocrity than to passively accept inferior players and managers being forced onto us.
The players getting booed have not only just arrived.
The Spurs supporters have given every single one of them support and encouragement.
We are talking about players who have been at Spurs for several seasons and are continually making errors, missing for one reason or another and now openly disrespecting the most loyal away supporters.
If anything we've indulged Daniel Levy, ENIC and their cronies for too long and they all need to fuck off.
The supporters are THFC.
The players pointing the finger at supporters, Daniel Levy, ENIC and Thomas Frank are just a brief skid mark on our proud history.
ENIC need to pony up for some decent players or sell up to a serious entity that will.
THFC only have the supporters left.
I'm not debating that, I don't think the Vicario booing was helpful at all, I think the guy's a dick but that was the last thing that was required at that moment.
Just the specific Sanchez incident that you were using to back up your case was given without some pretty relevant context.
Was Emerson booed when being subbed on?
Many of our goals conceded this season are from outside the box where the midfield hasn't done their job or simply great goals. Or Absolute blunders like Fulham.
Last season it was because 2nd and 3rd choice players (often not even defenders, Gray at CB for example) were just getting exposed. Or were on the halfway line.
We scored plenty more goals and made more chances because for most of last season, we had Madison, Kulu and Solanke. (and Son but he was on the wane' IMO)
We definitely do not have control over how we support the squad as a monolith.
The club however have much more of a responsibility than the fans to sort out:
A) How they all perform, from board members to players
B) How they can fix the relationship with the fans
We're absolving them of responsibility, and they're absolving themselves of responsibility to turn things around by focusing so much on the fans.
It's really as simple as put in better performances = better fan support.
That is true for every single football club. You might bring up United or Liverpool as exceptions but again, their fans aren't a monolith, they're individuals with highly differing opinions, and luckily for them they still have tons with which they have alot of credit in the bank for past glory. We don't have that.
true plus even a polish turd stinks up the room if you don't flush it down
Funny post - but I'd argue Kudus, Xavi, Muani aren't absolutely all shit? Because last time I checked, all three mentioned are international players. 90% of the users on here were all creaming for these signings.Last season, without defenders, our defence was shit.
This season, without attackers, our attack is shit.
Our attack this year is shit, because Wank is stinking the place out.
Frank makes him not care he’s too boring.
Tommy here doesn’t know about the invention of full stops.
No, I'm using West Ham as an example of a club who are rancid but still find ways to buy the odd decent player. It's not impossible... players and their agents are greedy fuckers. Most of them couldn't care less about trophies. They want money. Eze got 180k from Woolwich... if we slapped 250k on the table there are two things that could happen. 1. Woolwich come up to 250k or 2. He signs for us... he's not signing for Woolwich for 180k if we have a contract 250k on the table. No matter how good they are and how shit we are. I reckon he's taking the 70k extra a week.You're using West Ham as case study for where we want to aspire?
Look, I just think this toxicity doesn't help.
But look, let's get back to your point on toxicity (such a bugger to say that word!!!)... I get it, I respect people's right to support the team. I try not to tell anyone how to fan... equally, I get why people are pissed off and feel they have no other way to make their feelings known. It probably doesn't help the here and now but it might wake our slumbering board up into doing something... unfortunately, 25 years under ENIC has taught me that this lot are a bunch of greedy cunts who don't give a flying fuck about football success.
"Don't want that" - Spurs player speaks of experience of being booed by his own fans
Emerson Royal has been speaking about his rollercoaster journey at Tottenham Hotspur which has seen him go from a figure of frustration to a fan...
The thing about Trophies is they stay in the cabinet forever.
The "glitter" that fell off was our business in the Summer. Champion's League football and the trophy monkey off our backs was supposed to usher in a new era. Instead we got Kudus; 4th choice Simons and two loans neither of which fix our problems nor push us up the table.
Now... we are truly in deep shit.
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Sorry man, that doesnt make sense.
Only singing when you're winning is a cowardly way to support the team
Maybe
better fan support in a difficult moment will = increased performances
had supporters got behind the team when Vicario made his mistake, rather than booing, I can almost guarantee we would have seen the players galvanised rather than go into their shell.
Hopefully they’re starting to bottle it as evidenced by Martinelli’s behaviour later on and I was hoping that he would have received a retrospective red card by now!