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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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That wasn't a guy 3 months into the job.

But, FWIW, Frank has the rest of the season to win 4 games and equal Ange's record
3 months? Franks been in for 6 months and in that time we've not seen anything to get behind?

At this point in his first season under Ange we were doing extremely well.

No way is Frank getting 5th, even with this bigger squad of players.
 
A dominant midfielder is of equal importance.
Yep - we need to fix the engine room first.

Our defence is adequate when VdV and (when he is not being a petulant idiot) Romero play. Our attack is limited skills-wise but is badly hamstrung by the fact that we are not getting quick and penetrating balls through the centre - we are always forced wide making us predictable and easy for opposition defences.

But we are presently not good enough in midfield. Bencantor and Paulhina are too defensively minded and don't have the presence, confidence or skills to do what a competent PL midfield needs to do. Bergvall and (when he gets more confidence) Gray have potential but it is expecting too much of them at the moment to think that they are the answer.

Moreover, as we know from last season, Maddison has skills but goes missing in the tough matches and Kulu is probably more effective as a right winger than he is as a true attacking midfielder. So we should not rely on those two.
 
I’m done with Ange debates but at least you knew that when Romero and VDV played together, we had a chance of winning any game,

Ultimately he was an elite communicator that got great belief from the players but tactically far too limited for PL football.

The thing about constant refreshing was actually ended with Ange tbh. He lasted 2 years, which isn’t bad for an elite level club manager. If we don’t get a win in the next 2 games, I don’t see how Frank keeps his job.

Our aim is to be an elite club, there isn’t another elite club in world football who would have tolerated this first half of the season so far and kept the manager.
Yeah, good point, Ange was given time, but the shouts started after that chavs game. And, to be fair, it starting sloping downhill from there.

I think we'll beat palace and go on a little run, but he definitely needs to show an uptick.
 
Mate;

The miser replaced Dembele and Wanyama with Winks and Sissoko.

Pochettino made his thoughts clear regarding the Sissoko signing in his book.

Are you covering for Steve Hitchen or someone else?

:levyeyes:
I wouldn’t even give him the credit of replacing Dembele with Sissoko mate.

Pochettino moulded Sissoko into a serviceable CM through sheer coaching, patience and persistence.

Sissoko was signed in a panic by Levy as a right sided attacker in the summer of ‘16, as he had failed to sign all other targets in that position, the main one being Sadio Mane.

As you quite rightly point out, Pochettino had no input in signing Sissoko, and in his own words “Daniel thought he was a player I could maybe get something from.”

Sissoko was a mostly awful player that was not only forced on Pochettino, but ended up having to be our main man in central midfield for a number of season due to the gross incompetence of ENIC and the recruitment team.
 
We are right in the shit arent we?

Every fixture I look at looks like one we can easily lose. It was the same at the end of last season where I couldn’t see where we were going to get a win from.
Totally agree. Given we've already played Burnley and Wolves at home (and couldn't even win both), what fixture, home or away, could we feel confident about? Beyond West Ham, I'm not seeing any. Even Leeds worries me given how they dismantled Palace (who, thankfully, appear to be having a wobble).
 
Our aim is to be an elite club, there isn’t another elite club in world football who would have tolerated this first half of the season so far and kept the manager.
Exactly. And no Elite club, or any club with serious ambition to become elite, would have appointed Thomas Frank.

They. Just. Wouldn't

It was a sham appointment. The fans were scammed yet again.

Welcome back to the forum, btw
 
Exactly. And no Elite club, or any club with serious ambition to become elite, would have appointed Thomas Frank.

They. Just. Wouldn't

It was a sham appointment. The fans were scammed yet again.

Welcome back to the forum, btw

Dunno mate tbh

Frank wasn’t my choice but he’d earned his chance. Potter got a chance at Chelsea as well.Chelsea were 8th at Christmas in the Potter season and he survived until April.

Frank is struggling a lot more than Potter was tbh.
 
Sissoko was signed in a panic by Levy as a right sided attacker in the summer of ‘16, as he had failed to sign all other targets in that position, the main one being Sadio Mane.
Mostly true.
But you can’t say that Sissoko was a replacement for Dembele and a positional target at RW. Dembele wasn’t a right winger.
Pochettino moulded Sissoko into a serviceable CM through sheer coaching, patience and persistence.
No.
Sissoko was a pretty versatile player. A jack of all trades. He was a box-to-box midfielder before he went to Newcastle. He wasn’t a converted winger — although I remember a couple of outstanding performances for Newcastle at RW.
Sissoko was a mostly awful player
No.
While he wasn’t very technical, he was an outstanding athlete and very powerful. He could be a more than serviceable player if used correctly.
Awful players don’t win 71 caps for arguably the best side in Europe over a decade.
 
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