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Manager Thomas Frank
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The team is currently on 22 points.
4 wins is worth 12 points.
22 + 12 = 34.
Postecoglou got 38 points.
So Frank needs to win 5 games and get 1 draw to reach 38 points, or a combination of less than 5 wins and more draws.
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There's a Trophy sized hole in these equations
^^^what he said
Bournemouth drawing or winning next and we lose we will be 15th.
Some of the fans can continue to bury their heads in the sands if they don't think we are even close to fighting relegation this early of the season. I seriously hope the players don't think like them.
And our fixtures are only getting more difficult comes January and February.
We aren’t getting relegated. But we are looking at another season where we could finish 17th.
Ange went because of his blasé attitude and tactical immaturity; “challenge on multiple fronts” was just an excuse.
But Frank wasn’t brought in to just do the same again. He’s got 1 less point than Ange had at the same point - and Ange was still in the Carabao Cup. We’ve got a nightmare run of games coming up with teams that are around us - these are incredibly crucial 6 pointers. Then we have a killer run in February where, let’s be honest, we don’t look like we have a chance of a single point.
We need 6-9 points at least from the next four fixtures or we will be increasingly in trouble, as will he be. I don’t see that happening.
Ange went because of his blasé attitude and tactical immaturity; “challenge on multiple fronts” was just an excuse.
But Frank wasn’t brought in to just do the same again. He’s got 1 less point than Ange had at the same point - and Ange was still in the Carabao Cup. We’ve got a nightmare run of games coming up with teams that are around us - these are incredibly crucial 6 pointers. Then we have a killer run in February where, let’s be honest, we don’t look like we have a chance of a single point.
We need 6-9 points at least from the next four fixtures or we will be increasingly in trouble, as will he be. I don’t see that happening.
I think we're not playing at full tilt , when we went down to 10 men we played better , and then when we went down to 9 men we played even better . Why can't we play with that same endeavour with 11 players on the pitch . Instead there's no movement and no creativity , just static boring football . I think Thomas frank is on a knife edge ATM and should we lose to Palace I can't see him keeping his job .
Let’s hope so
Mate. Its part and parcel of being a fan of a sports endeavour over which you have no control.
How fans choose to process and discuss the issues is up to them.
It's easy to play front footed when you're losing 2 nil and even when down to 9 men. You just abandon tactics etc and go all out, combine that with pool being really poor and very nervous and that gave our lot even more encouragement.
I personally didn't take any positives from pool game. We might get something against palace because they are looking tired and are playing tonight as well.
Can't see us getting more than a point in the following 2 games against brentford and Sunderland and if that happens the only positive is that Frank will be gone
Frank is a decent "coach" and no more.
I really don't buy into the relegation shite, but if that is the metric at Xmas, then that says a whole lot about his future. He's a nice fella. If people are content with a mid-table finish, with no European football at all, then Frank will keep us up.
I sense the Lewis family may not be so gracious.
I really don't buy into the relegation shite, but if that is the metric at Xmas, then that says a whole lot about his future. He's a nice fella. If people are content with a mid-table finish, with no European football at all, then Frank will keep us up.
I sense the Lewis family may not be so gracious.
We could use a Harry Redknapp right now. He was actually a fantastic coach. I hope Frank turns it around.
And get a Trophy.
5 points from our last 8 games and 1 win in the last 8 premier league games . I’d say Brentford at home was a good performance and Newcastle away we were ok, the rest we were utterly pathetic .
Newcastle away we were horrific. We just snatched a draw and it felt better than it actually was. The performance was terrible and never looked like scoring.
Actually 14th!
Let’s be honest here,how there is anyone saying the manager should still be in the job is beyond belief. What it does show is our ambition has gone to the dogs from the club and many supporters. Accepting this mediocrity is a joke. I hear so many fans say give him time or Richy looked good when he came on against Liverpool or Brennan can score goals but it’s this type of short sighted attitude which is making us a mid table to lower half team now. The manager is the reason we are here. The guys I mentioned plus a good few more are the reason we are here. The recruitment is the reason we are here. We as a fan base are the reason we are here. Until we stop accepting this mediocrity we are fucked. It needs to change. The board need to step up. Get rid of this manager who has us wallowing in boredom. Ransack the fucking squad and give a manager who can get us playing and the players respect the right players. Take a hit now and get us back to the level where can and should be. It’s easier to sustain that rather than try build from being broken because we are not far from that just now.
If the club don’t act now I honestly fear the worst. It’s going to get more difficult to win and there’s a massive disconnect from the manager to the players,players to fans and manager to fans and board to the fans.
We are at a crossroads right now and I hope to fuck we take the right path.
If the club don’t act now I honestly fear the worst. It’s going to get more difficult to win and there’s a massive disconnect from the manager to the players,players to fans and manager to fans and board to the fans.
We are at a crossroads right now and I hope to fuck we take the right path.
There's a Trophy sized hole in these equations
No, the hole is that we're not in the same competition.
As much as anyone wants to look at the grandeur of winning the trophy itself, I doubt anyone can say - with a straight face - that it was a difficult trophy to win. We hardly looked like a decent team in the entire competition, certainly the final.
If we got to a Champions League final again, it would be echelons high of an accomplishment
16 points from 21 games then, if you like.
Not exactly a high bar is it. Ange got 15 from 63. GF 25, GA 32.
