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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Personality wise - he is a great replacement for the strangely charismatic ( in football terms) Ange.
Frank is very articulate and likeable - for fans and players alike.

The first 8 games under Ange were special - the stadium was rocking.
Hopefully Frank gets off to a similar start. The fixtures are kind to us.
 
Was disappointed to see Ange go, I understand why but it was the less romantic decision given he brought our biggest success in 41 years (so before I was born) and I am a romantic. But it was the logical choice, and Frank looks like he’s going to evolve rather than rip apart which I think is just what is needed.

Needs to be backed but I do have faith that whatever he’s given, he’ll raise the floor dramatically and push the ceiling higher too.
 
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Was disappointed to see Ange go, I understand why but it was the less romantic decision given he brought our biggest success in 41 years (so before I was born) and I am a romantic. But it was the logical choice, and Frank looks like he’s going to evolve rather than rip apart which I think is just what is needed.
Needs to be banned but I do have faith that whatever he’s given, he’ll raise the floor dramatically and push the ceiling higher too.
You mean backed, don't you?

As for Frank raising the floor AND the ceiling, sounds like he's a lift attendant?
 
There's disingenuous responses on all sides.

I'm on record as saying that one of the main things I want is attractive, entertaining football. That then gets twisted to me saying I'm ok with losing as long as 'we got our Tottenham back'.

I don't think anyone was happy with our league position last season. It just that some understood that we were putting all our eggs in the Europa basket at the end.

Fact is everyone who is really Spurs would love us challenging for everything. That has to be the aim at the start of every season. Whether we deem a season a success is then done in hindsight.
A lot of truth in that yes. Though I think there is some delusion, founded in self-justification by Ange, in the idea that we lost lots of league games in such a pathetic manner because of the EL. We actually generally played strong (if not our strongest teams) in the last 10 matches or so of the league. And even allowing for a few key players missing, we were incredibly poor.

Throw in the fact that we really struggled against our only two decent opponents in the EL (though yes we won, and great that we did), and the "We focused on the EL and were great in it, and the league in no way reflects what Ange would really do in the league" type argument simply doesn't stack up.

We were sliding under Ange for a long time due to poor coaching, poor tactics and an affiliative leadership style
 
Last season was unique and won't be repeated.

Rightly or wrongly, depending on your own personal view. The club put all of their eggs in the winning the Europa basket. Because it provided a Champions league place and because of how incredibly shit the bottom three were we were never in danger of relegation.
Luckily for them they were vindicated in that decision, but it still cost Ange his job.

This season is different, of course people are going to destroy Frank if we are down at the bottom of the table.
Yes, though that isn't reflective of the position of a fair number of trophies-or-it-doesn't-matter fundamentalists on here, whose position essentially is "all that matters is trophies ... no point doing well in the league if you don't win it".

As a I said, let's see whether those people have opinions (i.e. care) about league matches once the season begins. I predict they will.

Maybe the point of agreement is that I don't want us to ever go weak in a CC or FA Cup game for the league. We aren't winning the damn league under Levy. We should try and do as well as we can in the league, but not sacrifice chances to win the things we actually might win.
 
A lot of truth in that yes. Though I think there is some delusion, founded in self-justification by Ange, in the idea that we lost lots of league games in such a pathetic manner because of the EL. We actually generally played strong (if not our strongest teams) in the last 10 matches or so of the league. And even allowing for a few key players missing, we were incredibly poor.

Throw in the fact that we really struggled against our only two decent opponents in the EL (though yes we won, and great that we did), and the "We focused on the EL and were great in it, and the league in no way reflects what Ange would really do in the league" type argument simply doesn't stack up.

We were sliding under Ange for a long time due to poor coaching, poor tactics and an affiliative leadership style
Oh we definitely were poor despite what teams we put out in many of the games and I'm really not trying to excuse those performances because they were embarrassing.

But it is undeniable to me that we were essentially rotating our bigger players out of the Prem lineups by the last few games.

For me, Frank has a bit of the Ange philosophy about him. Some of the things he said in his first interview, you could see Ange saying. Hopefully, this coaching team can now move us on so we can perform consistently across all comps.
 
For me, Frank has a bit of the Ange philosophy about him. Some of the things he said in his first interview, you could see Ange saying. Hopefully, this coaching team can now move us on so we can perform consistently across all comps.
Frank is a pragmatist. He is known for tailoring his tactics to the opposition, so there's bound to be an amount of 'Ange Overlap' at some points during the season, where he feels an 'Angeball' approach is the best approach. However, you'll never hear him say, "Sod the oppo, mate. Cough. We are who we are." He's much better than that.
He's also an accomplished diplomat - he knows what Spurs want to hear, so already he's made sure to slip the old 'to dare is to do' style message into interviews.
I just hope the job doesn't overwhelm him, as it has with other world-class coaches. If he can keep his feet on the ground and his head in the stars he could end up with a statue.
 
Most likeable manager since Poch...
I loved Poch (for his style of play and how good we were to watch), but I couldn't watch his pressers. Awful communicator.

I really appreciated Ange's no-nonsense attitude. We need more of that.

Frank has a very clear and articulate nature, great philosophy, very easy to imagine the squad getting behind him. I do wonder how he'd manage having to give the hair-dryer treatment, or kick up the ass. Sometimes you need to light a fire. But maybe that's why he has his no-dickheads policy. They are supposed to be professionals, after all.
 
I loved Poch (for his style of play and how good we were to watch), but I couldn't watch his pressers. Awful communicator.

I really appreciated Ange's no-nonsense attitude. We need more of that.

Frank has a very clear and articulate nature, great philosophy, very easy to imagine the squad getting behind him. I do wonder how he'd manage having to give the hair-dryer treatment, or kick up the ass. Sometimes you need to light a fire. But maybe that's why he has his no-dickheads policy. They are supposed to be professionals, after all.
Frank, for someone who's English isn't his first langauge, is soo expressive.

If he was an actor you'd cast as the role of a good guy but acts like a serial killer, much like the Skarsgaard family :D
 
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