Yeah I wouldn't be surprised mate, he's a good player and with VVD getting older they will need to replace him.
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Can you see Levy doing a Maranakis over VDV or will he deal when the price is right?
I think the football is going to be absolutely horrific as this season gets going.Thrilling season ahead
Might well wring a few results out, Frank is a good tactician, but a good tactician is going to understand very well that his squad has no creativity in possession bar Maddison and its two best players are its CB's.
You don't understand...kids are cheaper..
"We've got our Tottenham back" has always been a meme. Fans don't care about entertainment nearly as much as they do about the scoreline. The former is just a bonus.
Now, if the manager in question is dislikable on other grounds, which was definitely the case with JM and Conte, ugly football can be used as an additional stick to beat him with. But it's not decisive by itself.
After sticking with Ange despite hitting new lows all season and getting rewarded for it at the end, I don't see Levy pulling the trigger on Frank within next season barring something truly extraordinary.
Now, if the manager in question is dislikable on other grounds, which was definitely the case with JM and Conte, ugly football can be used as an additional stick to beat him with. But it's not decisive by itself.
After sticking with Ange despite hitting new lows all season and getting rewarded for it at the end, I don't see Levy pulling the trigger on Frank within next season barring something truly extraordinary.
I don't think something truly extraordinary is required for Frank to be out if work come Christmas. If we struggle against Burnley, then I guarantee there will be booing in the ground and Levy out chants.
Frank was appointed not to chase down the trophies but instead, to coach the team to overachieve saving Enic on spending too much.
Ideal signings are punts on youngsters who, will accept lower wages along with lower expectations of challenging for tbe big stuff.
It’s twice he’s done that now. Last time he said some shit about their invincible team going unbeaten and for sure we’d lose games
He’s trying to lower expectations and pressure but it’s coming off as small time mentality.
He can fix it, and he does need to. We aren’t Brentford
You can tell that he’s not used to the scrutiny and the scale of press conferences that comes with being at a bigger club, just yet.
Hopefully he feels more comfortable soon because he’s going to need to adjust to it fairly quickly.
Yeah, i don't read too much into.his comments either.
Frank is just setting the expectations down a bit, he knows tbat Woolwich are going for it, while at spurs he has to make do and get by.
Of course it shouldn't be that way considering both clubs finances, but when you have the people we do in charge this is what you get.
Frank is just setting the expectations down a bit, he knows tbat Woolwich are going for it, while at spurs he has to make do and get by.
Of course it shouldn't be that way considering both clubs finances, but when you have the people we do in charge this is what you get.
This is so embarrassingly untrue and you must know it is. There are many clubs with better U23 talent than us on paper. Most of our U23 talent is not of the top calibre at all, it’s actually a lot of punts.
Out of all of them we will be doing well if even two become genuinely top class premier league players.
You mean..... Mr. Maranakis.Can you see Levy doing a Maranakis over VDV or will he deal when the price is right?
no numbnuts.
we finished 17th because WE WERE UTTER SHITE WITH A SHITE MANAGER WITH SHITE TACTICS THAT EVERY OTHER MANAGER IN THE PL SAW THROUGH AFTER OUR FIRST 10 GAMES SINCE WHEN WEVE BEEN ON ABOUT A POINT A MATCH.
But you think we were just unlucky. Really. And if we'd played those matches a hundred times we'd have finished higher than 17th.
I've just asked people in which games were we unlucky? Which matches did we lose where we should have got something? Tell me!!
Which matches did we have the best of a draw where we really shouldve won?
I can't think of a single one. I can think of some draws we absolutely stole - Fulham and Bournemouth.
I can think of matches where we shouldve lost by a lot more - Palace, Bournemouth, Brighton, LFC at home couldve scored 10, Ipswich at home, Everton. Villa in the cup.
10 matches from the end of the season I was on here saying we'll end up with 37pts. We got 38pts. It wasnt because I was forecasting we'd be unlucky. I was seeing that we had been shit since November and because nothing had changed we'd be shit in those 10 mathces too.
Bad luck my arse.
If you disagree with any logic you'll have to tell me in which games we were unlucky rather than talking absolute gobbledegook
NB - Saints finished bottom becuse they were SHITE but maybe you think they were unlucky?
Can you convince Barca to swap us Pedri, Yamal, Gavi and Cubarsi for our super talented youth please.
Per Transfermarkt, our most valuable U23 player is Destiny Udogie, who is in a multi-way tie for the 60th most valuable U23 player in the world. Gray and Bergvall next in the 70's.
The actual best group of U23's is surely either Barcelona (Yamal, Pedri, Gavi, Pau Cubarsi) or PSG (Doue, Neves, Barcola, Mendes, Pacho)
All the big English clubs have several entries ahead of any of ours.
We are miles and miles away from the elite level atm.
I’m not sure of this raft of teenagers we had playing that many minutes in PL games? Raft normally means a lot.
I’d say a “couple”. Bergvall And Gray.
Frank like Ange before him and in fairness all premier league managers is just a salesman. Just got to be positive.
I can live with that mindset.
I’m not going to bury my head in the sand though. We had a weak squad last year. I don’t think it’s changed that much. Tel is better than Werner. But untested.
I hope Kudus steps in and performs but I’ve never watched him play. Hopefully he blows me away with his ability.
We will probably lose son. Whatever people think we won a lot more matches when he was in the starting 11.
Good luck to Mr Frank anyway.
Tel, Mikey played a fair bit, Odobert was still 19 and starting before his injury.
We had the most minutes played by teenagers in the top 5 leagues or some statistic to that effect.
Looking like a club destined for greatness.Thrilling season ahead
Very much looking forward to continuing the clubs current success trail.
Poor guy should walk now, what a joke this is. "We want to win the league, that is the ambition of this club and what success will be measured against".
Same apply to you baldy? Of course not. Over £100m spent on replacing managers since he's been here. Hundreds of millions of cheap dross that is shocker, not good enough.
Same apply to you baldy? Of course not. Over £100m spent on replacing managers since he's been here. Hundreds of millions of cheap dross that is shocker, not good enough.
Not saying either of you is right or wrong but if/when Vuskovic starts getting regular minutes, add in Bergvall, Gray, Odobert, Tel, Sarr, Udogie…
4 of those are full internationals already
Which team in England, Germany or Spain has as many u23 players that level in their first team squad?
Edit: just seen the post above and obviously Barca. I didn’t know Mendes and Pacho were u23
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