There is absolutely a lack of investment. This squad is atrocious.
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Manager Thomas Frank
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There is a lack of buying as well as we might. Don't think many teams spend more than we do.
If so please list them so I can compare.
He doesn't need to play an entire game as an 8 to assist the team building up with the ball
But then with the ball there's too big a gap between him and palinha.
You need a double pivot in the middle and either an attacker or defending midfielder. You okay 1 DM, 1 CM and 1 AM and we're going to get absolutely bullied in the middle of the park. It doesn't work like that.
The only positive from a display like this is that Frank is not Ange, he will analyse what went wrong and try to adjust.
You're absolving Frank of any blame here.
This was more on his tactics and fearing Bournemouth too much, which invited pressure on us. Palinha shouldn't have started in hindsight, and changes should've been in the first half, never mind 60 mins. It's very evident we were being overrun, targeting or right side.
We got into the game more when we had more balance in the side to attack, not because Bournemouth tired.
You don't need it for every attack, if he's playing as a 10 and we are struggling to create then he can drop back in build up
Teams don't setup as rigid as you suggest in 6/8/10, you don't play football on a a chess board...players move around the pitch interchanging positions, what I am suggesting is if we are struggling to get the ball forward then he can drop back to help his team mates in ball progression
Watch any other team who struggle with build up, players like Odegaard, Palmer etc...often drop back and help circulate the ball to get their teams up the pitch.
Dude, biggest issue is without the ball. We'll get fucking played through. If he could play the 8, he'd have been played there by now. There's obviously a reason he hasn't.
You have to be able to dictate a game to play deeper as well, from what I've seen of Simons, I don't think he has that. Great dribbler, absolutely, but you're very much underestimating the ability to play multiple positions. He'll be the opposite issue of Palinha.
I think everyone needs to remember he’s got a genuine rebuilding job on his hands. We were 17th last season and the squad is still in state of flux, we’re trending in a better direction but I think he needs at least a season and two summer windows to sort it out.
If we’re even in the discussion or around the UCL spots this season I think that’s an admirable improvement.
If we’re even in the discussion or around the UCL spots this season I think that’s an admirable improvement.
? I haven't said anything about him playing as an 8? I said in matches like these he should be able to drop back and dictate and assist in ball progression when we have the ball.
We'd have got absolutely destroyed playing him and Palinha in the same team today. That's my point. It's going to be one or the other most of the time.
That midfield had just overrun man city's. I thought changes should have been at HT I must admit but at the end of the day we needed someone who could beat that press in midfield and didn't matter who he started we didn't really have someone who could.
When Simon's is in the side shouldn't be as much of an issue you would hope
Simons Palhinha and Bentancur works far better than Sarr Palhinha and Bentancur, that's my point, there's a much better balance as you have a ball progressor and a creator.
Sure, okay. It wouldn't, but okay.
It’s a lack of signing good players, they have invested heavily just in trash like Richarlatan or Tel.
I don’t want to see the fridge brothers play together in any game unless it’s City, Woolwich or Liverpool away.
What would be your ideal midfield lineup in matches like these?
And Dom, BJ and Odobert.
But yes, lack of effective investment. You're absolutely correct.
A match like today, two 8's and a 10. Compact.
A 6,8 & 10 will leave us too stretched and disjointed against a team as technical and press as good as Bournemouth.