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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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You think he is delivering material improvement??? Jesus Christ... I've seen the opposite of improvement... dull, boring, low risk, attritional bollocks... sorry but if we spend 200m on new players next summer you'll be blaming them... we have 20+ internationals in this squad and if you added up their international caps it would be well over 1,000... these players are not the problem. They are being setup to play a flavour of football that died a death in the late 80s. If he doesn't get Champions League football next season then he has failed. No if's no but's... that's the barometer every Spurs manager should be measured against. I cannot for the life of me understand why parts of our fanbase are wetting themselves with an 8th place finish. It's fucking bonkers!!!
Under Ange we came 17th at 1 ppg. We are currently at 1.75ppg

So yes, improvement. I think we will materially improve vs last season, and finish about 10 places higher

That is material improvement. Irrespective of what "mehstg"s" eyes tell him.

Now, the football is pretty crap I agree.

Your 17th to CL is your own Angelos bias being written all over the board. Nothing more than your bias. And therefore not worth anyone bothering about.
 
Also struggled initially with Bournemouth and has had the benefit of managing a team one game per week, he's only reaping the benefits now because he's in his 3rd season...I didn't hear any shouts of Iraola when he first got to the Prem.
This is what makes me laugh, because you're spot on.

People want a manager who is showing promise, but is also 3 years into a project. He's managed one game a week! They're not willing to be patient, they want someone to come in and magically be spot on for day one, which is never going to happen.

The same people who want Iraloa would be calling for Frank when Iraola had his initial struggles.
 
This is what makes me laugh, because you're spot on.

People want a manager who is showing promise, but is also 3 years into a project. He's managed one game a week! They're not willing to be patient, they want someone to come in and magically be spot on for day one, which is never going to happen.

The same people who want Iraloa would be calling for Frank when Iraola had his initial struggles.
Lost 5, drew 3 and only won 2 of his first 10 games there.

Now look at them.

Amazing what time can do... if you're given it.
 
People are off their heads and have no idea how shite our squad is.

Look at our CM options.

Palhinha performing. Needs a better partner.
Bentancur shite.
Sarr a kid we signed for cheap.
Bergval a kid we signed for cheap.
Gray a kid we signed for a lot of money and never plays midfield.
Bissouma a waste of space. Not wanted

Just what the fuck do people expect Frank to do.

Our attack.

Son gone.
Maddison injured.
Solanke injured.
Kulu injured. That’s essentially last seasons first choice attack.

Frank is having to play

Odobert a kid. A punt. Not good enough.
Simons. Hasn’t adapted yet.
Kudus only bright spot.
Muani barely kicked a ball been injured.
Richarlison, rancid shouldn’t even be at the club.
Johnson utterly woeful.
Tel not good enough.


I mean just what do the fan base expect? This squad has been assembled with some cheap punts on young players and other players who were signed in previous seasons and clearly aren’t good enough.

Our squad is fucking woeful in midfield and attack.

On top of that we need a LB. Spence horribly upsets our attacking balance on the left and Udogie is made of glass.

Our squad is a mess. When injuries clear up it’ll be better but right now Frank is having to use kids in midfield and attack or just downright crap players.

The fans need to wake up and realise our squad isn’t that good at all. Our CM, LW and striker options for example are terrible.
Excellent post.
 
People are off their heads and have no idea how shite our squad is.

Look at our CM options.

Palhinha performing. Needs a better partner.
Bentancur shite.
Sarr a kid we signed for cheap.
Bergval a kid we signed for cheap.
Gray a kid we signed for a lot of money and never plays midfield.
Bissouma a waste of space. Not wanted

Just what the fuck do people expect Frank to do.

Our attack.

Son gone.
Maddison injured.
Solanke injured.
Kulu injured. That’s essentially last seasons first choice attack.

Frank is having to play

Odobert a kid. A punt. Not good enough.
Simons. Hasn’t adapted yet.
Kudus only bright spot.
Muani barely kicked a ball been injured.
Richarlison, rancid shouldn’t even be at the club.
Johnson utterly woeful.
Tel not good enough.


I mean just what do the fan base expect? This squad has been assembled with some cheap punts on young players and other players who were signed in previous seasons and clearly aren’t good enough.

Our squad is fucking woeful in midfield and attack.

On top of that we need a LB. Spence horribly upsets our attacking balance on the left and Udogie is made of glass.

Our squad is a mess. When injuries clear up it’ll be better but right now Frank is having to use kids in midfield and attack or just downright crap players.

The fans need to wake up and realise our squad isn’t that good at all. Our CM, LW and striker options for example are terrible.

Exactly, if you benchmarked our squad against the rest of the "big 5/6" I can't think of many instances where you'd pick one of our players.
 
I’m not quite as kneejerk as a few of you guys but definitely not happy with how it’s going

I suppose we can compare it with Poch’s first season, he too struggled early on to make us an attacking threat but it did click and we started scoring, I’m hoping that will happen with Frank aswell, but would be nice to at least see some signs
It felt like it clicked with Poch because he was lucky with a great youth squad tbf.
 
Lost 5, drew 3 and only won 2 of his first 10 games there.

Now look at them.

Amazing what time can do... if you're given it.
Actually that's wrong.

Here's Iraola's first ten games in charge of Bournemouth.

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6 losses and only 1 win.
 
This is what makes me laugh, because you're spot on.

People want a manager who is showing promise, but is also 3 years into a project. He's managed one game a week! They're not willing to be patient, they want someone to come in and magically be spot on for day one, which is never going to happen.

The same people who want Iraloa would be calling for Frank when Iraola had his initial struggles.
Lost 5, drew 3 and only won 2 of his first 10 games there.

Now look at them.

Amazing what time can do... if you're given it.

Sacking Frank is 100% not the answer

Neither is making out that this is good enough given the resources he has.

Money was spent and wages went up. That comes with pressure. And it should come with pressure.

He needs time to figure it out but he absolutely should be under pressure to figure it out. This isn’t Bournemouth or Brentford. If we want to be regular winners of things, we need to expect that.
 
Sacking Frank is 100% not the answer

Neither is making out that this is good enough given the resources he has.

Money was spent and wages went up. That comes with pressure. And it should come with pressure.

He needs time to figure it out but he absolutely should be under pressure to figure it out. This isn’t Bournemouth or Brentford.

Balanced post, agreed.
 
Europa League Champions and qualification for the Champions League....first major trophy in decades for Spurs - A disaster?

Poch gets 4th place - Best coach ever!!!!
Are you forgetting the part where he nearly relegated is, or......?

And while I loved Poch for a time, he needed to go when he did. We were shit for a good 18 months and the CL final papered over cracks, much like the EL final. Poch failed by not winning anything with that team.
 
1. He thinks he is.

View: https://x.com/__gdz/status/1840843952221503649
2. And we should accept what we are seeing presently?
3. Spence is more than capable of galloping forward and passing the ball inside, surely? If not, VDV and his snappy hammies? Maybe one of our dubiously talented wide attackers could benefit from having a bit more grass in front of them?

I mean, I’m not being paid millions a year to sort this out and come up with a plan, just pointing out that our manager is.


No unfortunately Spence is not capable of running and passing.
His distribution is appalling.
Conte was right about him. Not good defensively or offensively.
 
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