Ben Davies and Palhinha as your first subs when we're losing a game is trolling of the highest order. Thomas Fraud, fuck off
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But we only conceded one after thatBen Davies and Palhinha as your first subs when we're losing a game is trolling of the highest order. Thomas Fraud, fuck off![]()
Thought the players all boasted about winning the EL and wanting more. We can’t have it both ways.As Conte confirmed a while back we’ve not got a winning mentality , no desire I couldn’t give a fuck if we’ve got “superstars” as long as we have a 11 players who give 100% on the pitch
2-0 was at 50 mins. What is he talking about. If he thought that then why not try to do something different. Instead all 5 subs were like for like. Did he throw in the towel at 2-0!When there is work in progress, the bare minimum requirement is that its possible to spot some progress. I can't see it. Frank must go. Get someone new in. I should care who, but I'm at the point where I'd be happy to see Southgate come in.
Stop playing those individuals or some them. Get them to make better choices, give them options in terms of where players are meant to etc.Frank
"we lost the ball 20 times, simple passes, that's down to individuals"
hmm, a fair point or no?
it still doesn't explain our inability to create any chances or have any sort of patterns of attacking play.
The time thing is just bollocks ironically to just buy more time in the hope that if you stick around long enough, a couple of world class players will fall into your lap or that the club will spend a billion quid on the squad to make you look good (like they did for Arteta)Dyche outcoaching Frank in less time is seriously not a good look, he's preaching that he needs time but how much time has Dyche had?
Problem there is, when you DO get a manager in who commands respect (Mourinho/Conte) then they don't respect us!This.
I get the vibe they just don’t respect him. You’re always on thin ice when that happens
Ref was probably our best player yesterday!Ref was awful as well, he kept on giving us decisions for some reason, I can see why the Forest fans were fuming lol
I don't really want to hear about the conspiracies with refs being against us anymore tbh
You gotta do the right things in the FIRST place, to be able to KEEP doing them!"Keep doing the right things "
What right things would that be then ?
In Frank's post match presser he actually said that when it went 2-0 it was game over for us.2-0 was at 50 mins. What is he talking about. If he thought that then why not try to do something different. Instead all 5 subs were like for like. Did he throw in the towel at 2-0!
Im stuck in mddle. The players are shit. Unable to make 5 yard passes. But its frank and his much lauded coaching teams job to improve this. Make them play for him come up with something that at least makes us coherent.When are people going to hold the players accountable? We have sacked 5 managers since 2019. It’s the players. It’s the fucking bang average 40 million dollar players that don’t give a damn about playing for spurs. I hope he played the kids from here on out
Ben Davies and Palhinha as your first subs when we're losing a game is trolling of the highest order. Thomas Fraud, fuck off
I really wish we’d have kept them too, but hindsight is 20:20.He made his own bed by keeping most of these players and sending out on loan all our academy players. Im
Sure they would have respected and bust a gut for the club.
He's now fallen behind Poch's first season, just.
Frank after 16 matches: 6W 4D 6L, 22 points, 25GF, 21GA, 11th, 6 points behind 4th, 14 points off top.
Poch after 16 matches: 7W 3D 6L, 24 points, 20GF, 22GA, 7th, 4 points behind 4th, 15 points off top.
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This.
I get the vibe they just don’t respect him. You’re always on thin ice when that happens
He himself said the game was over at what 50 minutes in? I mean fuck me if that's the attitude and message coming from the boss is it any wonder the players don't give a fuck either?What was he going to do, bring on Tel and Johnson to turn things around?
He did and they couldn’t be arsed either. The options are just shocking.
I actually thought the subs and timing v Fulham was worse.

If the players are cunts then drop them.Yeah I get this feeling too. They threw Ange under the bus and are doing it with Frank. So they'll do it with the next bloke.
I keep saying this, but I don’t think people get it. The club is rotten top to bottom and we (the fans) are properly in the shit. Standards seem low, everyone is on the take and out for themselves. The culture is terrible. Manager after manager have said the same thing. Poch, Mourinho, conte and the last two to differing degrees have said or suggested things arent what they should be. At some point we need a manager to take it all on but if that lot couldn’t do it, can Frank? Doubtful isn’t it. I’m not sure anyone is the answer, we need the club sold. Only then will things actually change. Until then we are treading water.
Talk is cheap.Thought the players all boasted about winning the EL and wanting more. We can’t have it both ways.
Bissouma did it once in maybe every 10 games if even that. Been a dreadful signingWe all hate on Bissouma but he's lightyears ahead of what our current mids are capable of in terms of progressive press resistant football.
Not replacing him with a WORLD CLASS cm in the summer was a disaster.
I'd love to be able to be able to blame Frank for that. But... just can't. Our midfield reeks of mediocrity. Just as it did for the previous few managers
He sounded pretty pissed off to me in the post match interview I watched, commenting the players even failed to perform the most simple of passes.He himself said the game was over at what 50 minutes in? I mean fuck me if that's the attitude and message coming from the boss is it any wonder the players don't give a fuck either?
I am under no illusion that our players are better than they are, we have probably assembled the most bang average squad that I've ever seen but I thought the whole point of bring Frank in was that he would get us well coached, well drilled and improve "lesser" attacking players like he did at Brentford.
Either way I've missed my original point, subs were shit, players are shit, manager is shit and the owners are shit.![]()