15th or 16th is progress from last year. Or something.13pts behind us. 14 with goal difference. No chance. I could easily see a 15th or 16th finish on the cards though.
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15th or 16th is progress from last year. Or something.13pts behind us. 14 with goal difference. No chance. I could easily see a 15th or 16th finish on the cards though.
Whilst I largely agree with you on most of this....Blame the players as you like. But remember, these are PROFESSIONAL football players. They spent their childhood, youth, and now adulthood player, eating, drinking, football. They don't get to this level playing at one of the top leagues for being sh!t. Even as much as I despise Richarlison, he is, compared to the average joe, is elite at few things.
These players are taught from a young age how to pass, and run, how to receive the ball, how to form triangles and squares, how to see spaces, and use spaces. These are the basics in today's football and all current pro football players are taught that.
That's why you see even mediocre teams play well if they get a competent manager (the sunderlands, BHAs, Brenfords, CPS, etc.). Today's players are robots they execute what the manager trains them and tells them to do. On game day, when the plan that the manager draws is not working, they do not know what do to. they look poor.
The reason the players look poor at Tottenham is because the manager's plan or tactics are not working, they do not know how to handle the movement of the opposition. Their manager told them this and that, but on the pitch they see something else. Look how Bournmouth players looks so drilled, know what the plan, see that what their manager is saying mostly happens. Our manager on the other hand has nothing going. Our players look lost, what he tells them does not happen.
A life-long mediocre manager, who spent his who career at a low level, is not going to know how to coach at the elite level, he does not know it, he's never been their. He who doesn't have it, cannot give it.
I want him sacked, but as long as we have these LOSER owners, nothing is going to happen. It starts there.
How about a photo of the paper cup?The question is whether we will use the corner flag photo or the photo of the crest outside the stadium when we're announcing his sacking.
In my years of following Spurs, I can't think of a period where we felt so disconnected. Yes, we have had lean years, trophy droughts, and so forth. It's sad, but we are a laughingstock. Fans abusing players and managers, infighting, Think of the meltdowns in recent times.
Mou sacked the week of a final, with Conte dropping truth bombs at a presser extraordinaire, finishing 17th yet winning a European trophy, whilst having Ange challenging fans. Add today's debacle with Micky, Porro and co.
Our captain is sending shots at the club today.
View: https://x.com/AlasdairGold/status/2009062094134751678
West Ham are next up (in the league) and have similar form.
they could close the gap to 10 points if they win

It's reached that stage when things get so bad, all I can do is laugh.
In my years of following Spurs, I can't think of a period where we felt so disconnected. Yes, we have had lean years, trophy droughts, and so forth. It's sad, but we are a laughingstock. Fans abusing players and managers, infighting, Think of the meltdowns in recent times.
Mou sacked the week of a final, with Conte dropping truth bombs at a presser extraordinaire, finishing 17th yet winning a European trophy, whilst having Ange challenging fans. Add today's debacle with Micky, Porro and co.
Our captain is sending shots at the club today.
View: https://x.com/AlasdairGold/status/2009062094134751678

Yeah he talks a good game but I’d prefer it if he actually just defendedRight on Cuti, I'm still patiently waiting for Vinai to come out and take responsibility for not tracking Brian Brobbey at the weekend, and for Viv to hold her hands up after her needless red against Liverpool...
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In my years of following Spurs, I can't think of a period where we felt so disconnected. Yes, we have had lean years, trophy droughts, and so forth. It's sad, but we are a laughingstock. Fans abusing players and managers, infighting, Think of the meltdowns in recent times.
Mou sacked the week of a final, with Conte dropping truth bombs at a presser extraordinaire, finishing 17th yet winning a European trophy, whilst having Ange challenging fans. Add today's debacle with Micky, Porro and co.
Our captain is sending shots at the club today.
View: https://x.com/AlasdairGold/status/2009062094134751678
The irony with the paper cup thing is we're all pissed off that he keeps paying homage to Woolwich, I mean it's a meme that doesn't require any editing, it's like the punchline of an ongoing joke. It's as daft as Father Dougal McGuire, Frank Spencer, Norman Wisdom.
We’ve had a very high turnover since Conte tbf, so I’m not sure that is fair.Whilst I largely agree with you on most of this....
Many of these players were letting Conte down, then the interim after, then Ange and now Frank.
They look untrained and I'm not sure how long it'll take anyone to rectify it.
Said this the other say that this is as bad or arguably worse than 93 to 2004. We're just lost as a club post Poch/new stadium. A souless stadium, a succession of players that couldnt really care less, a group of dreadful or ill suited managers just passing through waiting for a payoff.
Watching last night and after Martin Chivers passing i was trying to think of one great signing or youth player since 2016, someone that could call thelseves a legend or even a top player and there isnt one. We were semi respectable for several years because of Kane and Son. There's nothing there now. This is ENICs/Levys legacy, leading us back to exactly where they found us.