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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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LeParisien said:
In 3 years, this team could be pretty good. Three fucking years and the players start to enter their prime and it still looks young.


———————— Kinsky 25
Porro 29 - Romero 30 - VdV 27 - Udogie 26
———————-Gray 22 - Bergvall 22
Odobert 24 ——- Simons 25 ———- Moore 21
———————— Tel 23

Vuskovic 21
Souza 22
Spence 28
Danso 30
Sarr 26
Kudus 28
Yang 22

And this is without a single signing.

The more I think about it, the more I think they’ve just fucked off the next two years and gone big for the end of the decade.

They should drop the price of season tickets 30% for next year and raise it gradually as the players mature. That would go a LONG way with fans and build some patience.
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It would but the balance sheet wouldn’t look so great
 
Dixiefish61 said:
It would but the balance sheet wouldn’t look so great
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Big mistake

If there’s actually a vision for the future (and I’m talking myself into it looking at our team of babies) then they should stand behind it.

I don’t expect it but it would be a legendary move and very smart politically. Otherwise they need VERY thick skin to withstand the pressure.
 
The more I think about it the more I think they’ll keep him until the summer. Then Poch (or maybe someone else) and not change anything else. Strategy, wage structure, nothing.

IMHO until ENIC are gone we will be in this doom loop every season.
 
LeParisien said:
Big mistake

If there’s actually a vision for the future (and I’m talking myself into it looking at our team of babies) then they should stand behind it.

I don’t expect it but it would be a legendary move and very smart politically. Otherwise they need VERY thick skin to withstand the pressure.
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Very true. I’m not sure their skin is that thick. I guess we’ll see in the next couple of games if we continue to lose. As David Pleat said, the fans chanting “sack the manager “ may get the managed sacked. The fans chanting “sack the board” will definitely get the manager sacked
 
SH1M1 said:
I just don’t get what 1 win, against a relegation fodder changes.
Does 1 game suddenly make him a good manager ? No.
The way I see it, fixture difficulty wise, he won’t last February.
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I agree. I just think if he isn't sacked now, he won't be sacked until the end of the season. They might even give him a second season.

If he doesn't get sacked for all these defeats over Xmas, 2 wins in 13. Out of all the doemstic cups, they won't sack him for losing to Woolwich and City in Feb etc
 
Aphex said:
I agree. I just think if he isn't sacked now, he won't be sacked until the end of the season. They might even give him a second season.

If he doesn't get sacked for all these defeats over Xmas, 2 wins in 13. Out of all the doemstic cups, they won't sack him for losing to Woolwich and City in Feb etc
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He's getting sacked.

No way ENIC are selling tickets to the rest of Spurs meaningless league fixtures unless they give us a reason to turn up in numbers.
 
TeamSpirit™ said:
He isn’t and his preferred style of play nerfs all of these young talents apart from Vuskovic.

Besides trying to imitate Arteta dooms us to never being as good as them. It’s an absolutely foolish hypothesis.
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It doesn't necessarily mate, because you can copy the strategy off the pitch but not on it. BUT you are quite correct it won't work because they will copy all of the blueprint apart from the 90million on Rice part. Because if we were serious we'd put the money down for Anderson and Oshimen Oblak Locatelli because that's what has to happen in summer.
 
Kosher Kid said:
If they could get him I think I would go along with that at the moment.

I've never thought he was the right choice on the occasions he was put forward for the job in the past but I would have him now.

Anyone who the supporters would rally behind will do.
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Klinsmann would rally the players and get respect from the dressing room to up their game. Bring in matthaus as no 2 or a couple of other german legends to sharpen the team up.
 
I mean, Brentford in the EPL under him:
  • Never ranked higher than 15th in number of short passes [5-15 yards] attempted
  • Never ranked higher than 17th in short pass success rate
  • Never ranked lower than 9th in number of long passes [30+ yards] attempted, and ranked inside top 3 in that category in 2 of the 4 seasons.
Unless they brought him here for him to implement a similar style of play, this alone should've planted seeds of doubt in the minds of those who identified him as a prime target.

There's more: Those same Brentford teams consistently ranked inside top 5 in number of aerial duels, and led the entire league in 22/23.

This can be construed as a variable inversely correlated with possession-oriented play, as the ball must be spending a lot of time in the air for a team to get involved in so many of these. To better illustrate the point, I might add that City have been ranking dead last in this for the last 6.5 seasons now.

I've yet to find any evidence that would give one some realistic hope that he could go beyond trying to optimize this football as best he can.If the board don't think it would be worth it, I for the record also don't, they shouldn't drag this out beyond this season at the latest.

But Arteta struggled too !! by itself doesn't exemplify sound decision making process.
 
BJK said:
I mean, Brentford in the EPL under him:
  • Never ranked higher than 15th in number of short passes [5-15 yards] attempted
  • Never ranked higher than 17th in short pass success rate
  • Never ranked lower than 9th in number of long passes [30+ yards] attempted, and ranked inside top 3 in that category in 2 of the 4 seasons.
Unless they brought him here for him to implement a similar style of play, this alone should've planted seeds of doubt in the minds of those who identified him as a prime target.

There's more: Those same Brentford teams consistently ranked inside top 5 in number of aerial duels, and led the entire league in 22/23.

This can be construed as a variable inversely correlated with possession-oriented play, as the ball must be spending a lot of time in the air for a team to get involved in so many of these. To better illustrate the point, I might add that City have been ranking dead last in this for the last 6.5 seasons now.

I've yet to find any evidence that would give one some realistic hope that he could go beyond trying to optimize this football as best he can.If the board don't think it would be worth it, I for the record also don't, they shouldn't drag this out beyond this season at the latest.

But Arteta struggled too !! by itself doesn't exemplify sound decision making process.
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Mate, shame you haven't provided those numbers when we have hired him.

I would not feel like a clown right now since i was initially happy when we he came here 😬
 
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