The crux is that we achieved 4th playing good football as a team and was not reliant on one player.
Last season, we failed our target, playing shit, disjointed football, and relying heavily on one player
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The crux is that we achieved 4th playing good football as a team and was not reliant on one player.
Last season, we failed our target, playing shit, disjointed football, and relying heavily on one player
He gets plenty of credit....you dont decide for me though who I give credit to
We scored one goal less last season that during the 09/10 one
Our direct rivals also became much stronger - City so you can't compare season directly
I've never said that, I want our current board thanks.
You're the king of attributing quotes that don't exist. So you must mean that you want a Sheik, as I've never said it.
You'd abandon the club, you do a good job of slagging it off now so hardly a diehard fan.
All your pointing out is that you'd rather be entertained that see the club do well. Long term success is achieved by hard work, it's not always pretty, that's your problem.
"I'm only a fan when they play pretty football"...
But thats why we got in a......."better" manager.....right?
Next level and all that.....
Success is rarely achieved overnight. We gave him 3 days to preforms miracles
That's the Tottenham Way, dontcha know!
The team sheet held the first clue. When a club spends £110million on players in the summer, one of them might be expected to make the starting line-up, even if a few are injured. Yet Tim Sherwood could not find room for any of Tottenham Hotspur’s squadron of new arrivals at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.
Having lost 4-0 to Chelsea, the young manager appeared emotional. He told his employers to wake up from their dreams of Champions League football, claimed his team lacked character and talked about individuals in the group that he could not trust. It is fair to assume he is feeling the pressure.
Yet that strain is not greatly created by Chelsea, or any opponent. The load on Sherwood comes from within. He has a short-term contract and Louis van Gaal as good as applying for his job at every press conference. His chairman, Daniel Levy, is known to favour the exotic and this creates a climate of expectation.
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Not to blame: Tim Sherwood is not a fault for all of Spurs' woes this season
It wasn’t Sherwood who squandered large chunks of the Gareth Bale bounty in the summer. It wasn’t Sherwood who conceded six away to Manchester City and five at home to Liverpool.
The manager of the time, Andre Villas-Boas, is Portuguese, the director of football and still in situ, Franco Baldini, is Italian.
As a team they were meant to be everything Sherwood, the callow British coach, is not: astute, urbane, cool, calculated players of the import market. Levy has always favoured a continental set-up and could not hurry Harry Redknapp out of the door quickly enough to reintroduce it.
Yet when Sherwood took charge, the club was in the elite equivalent of crisis: seventh place with 27 points from 16 matches, at an average of 1.68. Tottenham have since taken 26 points from Sherwood’s 13 Premier League games at an average of two, and risen to fifth place. Last season, two points per game would have been enough to finish third. So Sherwood has improved Tottenham’s fortunes, just not by enough to chase down the top four.
The presumption, therefore, is that he will be gone at the end of the season. It is obviously what Sherwood fears, his brief time as Tottenham manager being regarded as a quirk, an anomaly, an over-promotion born of mid-season madness with his dismissal ending his coaching career before it has begun. Many think he did not deserve the job. Maybe so but he does not deserve this contempt, either.
Tottenham were unlucky at Stamford Bridge. The best team won but the emphatic nature of the scoreline flattered Chelsea. The second goal wasn’t a penalty, and even less a red card for Younes Kaboul, and once Michael Dawson had gone off injured, the defence was wide open. Tottenham would probably have lost the game anyway, but not by four goals, so there was no need for Sherwood to appear as overwrought as he did after the game. Something else is wrong.
Might it be that each time Spurs lose, or disappoint, Sherwood feels a chill wind blow? He has a contract that will have a year to run at the end of the season but that is scant protection with Tottenham paying up far bigger deals to sack managers in the past.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...d-Spurs-mess-Martin-Samuel.html#ixzz2vYqvPyuR
Having lost 4-0 to Chelsea, the young manager appeared emotional. He told his employers to wake up from their dreams of Champions League football, claimed his team lacked character and talked about individuals in the group that he could not trust. It is fair to assume he is feeling the pressure.
Yet that strain is not greatly created by Chelsea, or any opponent. The load on Sherwood comes from within. He has a short-term contract and Louis van Gaal as good as applying for his job at every press conference. His chairman, Daniel Levy, is known to favour the exotic and this creates a climate of expectation.
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Not to blame: Tim Sherwood is not a fault for all of Spurs' woes this season
It wasn’t Sherwood who squandered large chunks of the Gareth Bale bounty in the summer. It wasn’t Sherwood who conceded six away to Manchester City and five at home to Liverpool.
The manager of the time, Andre Villas-Boas, is Portuguese, the director of football and still in situ, Franco Baldini, is Italian.
As a team they were meant to be everything Sherwood, the callow British coach, is not: astute, urbane, cool, calculated players of the import market. Levy has always favoured a continental set-up and could not hurry Harry Redknapp out of the door quickly enough to reintroduce it.
Yet when Sherwood took charge, the club was in the elite equivalent of crisis: seventh place with 27 points from 16 matches, at an average of 1.68. Tottenham have since taken 26 points from Sherwood’s 13 Premier League games at an average of two, and risen to fifth place. Last season, two points per game would have been enough to finish third. So Sherwood has improved Tottenham’s fortunes, just not by enough to chase down the top four.
The presumption, therefore, is that he will be gone at the end of the season. It is obviously what Sherwood fears, his brief time as Tottenham manager being regarded as a quirk, an anomaly, an over-promotion born of mid-season madness with his dismissal ending his coaching career before it has begun. Many think he did not deserve the job. Maybe so but he does not deserve this contempt, either.
Tottenham were unlucky at Stamford Bridge. The best team won but the emphatic nature of the scoreline flattered Chelsea. The second goal wasn’t a penalty, and even less a red card for Younes Kaboul, and once Michael Dawson had gone off injured, the defence was wide open. Tottenham would probably have lost the game anyway, but not by four goals, so there was no need for Sherwood to appear as overwrought as he did after the game. Something else is wrong.
Might it be that each time Spurs lose, or disappoint, Sherwood feels a chill wind blow? He has a contract that will have a year to run at the end of the season but that is scant protection with Tottenham paying up far bigger deals to sack managers in the past.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...d-Spurs-mess-Martin-Samuel.html#ixzz2vYqvPyuR
Im always a fan until we stop being self sufficient and buy our trophys like Chelsea did.....you always refuse to deny being up for Sheik.....or being happy to move to Stratford, so I can only assume its true.
I dont slag off the club. I slagged off AVB....the lines really did become blurred for some of you didnt they.
Long term success is achieved by stability and playing good football. Good football will yield rewards.
Id rather win nothing, than win stuff like City, or playing football like Woolwich in the 80's.
Try and belittle it, it only makes you look like an even bigger day tripping, fairweather mug.
I don't feel that Levy let AVB fully manage the club because of Baldini's appointment. Can we really say that all of the players Villas-Boas signed were his own? I don't like these Technical Director-type positions as they interfere too much with the manager's vision for the first team. Baldini obviously hastened up the transfer process with his negotiation skills, but at the lack of a clear link between summer business and what AVB wanted.
Like I said before, Levy hasn't backed Sherwood because of his ridiculous 18-month contract. Before Sherwood had even got five games under his belt at the club people were already talking about his replacement! That added media pressure nowadays does tell on a manager, and may affect his ability to coach and manage first team operations.
Oh, and no need to act like an arse, you sound like a private school teacher
That would be 18 months right......to still not relay what he wanted to his players
Martin Samuel is an anti-Spurs cunt whose always had it in for us and is also a closet xenophobe who is routinely banging on about "talented English managers and players" and how the league should be chock full of them.The team sheet held the first clue. When a club spends £110million on players in the summer, one of them might be expected to make the starting line-up, even if a few are injured. Yet Tim Sherwood could not find room for any of Tottenham Hotspur’s squadron of new arrivals at Stamford Bridge on Saturday.
Having lost 4-0 to Chelsea, the young manager appeared emotional. He told his employers to wake up from their dreams of Champions League football, claimed his team lacked character and talked about individuals in the group that he could not trust. It is fair to assume he is feeling the pressure.
Yet that strain is not greatly created by Chelsea, or any opponent. The load on Sherwood comes from within. He has a short-term contract and Louis van Gaal as good as applying for his job at every press conference. His chairman, Daniel Levy, is known to favour the exotic and this creates a climate of expectation.
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Not to blame: Tim Sherwood is not a fault for all of Spurs' woes this season
‘Until you get a foreign manager of this club, nobody is happy,’ Sherwood said last week. And he is right, of course. The names of well-qualified rivals will be trotted out now: Joachim Low, Jurgen Klopp, Lucien Favre (the Swiss chap at Borussia Monchengladbach who is the latest flavour of the month, the candidate only the real aficionados know). Sherwood hears the refrain, constantly. Foreign is best, foreign is better, foreign knows more, foreign is shrewder, more savvy, more tactically adept. Yet that ignores one salient fact. Foreign got Tottenham into this mess.
It wasn’t Sherwood who squandered large chunks of the Gareth Bale bounty in the summer. It wasn’t Sherwood who conceded six away to Manchester City and five at home to Liverpool.
The manager of the time, Andre Villas-Boas, is Portuguese, the director of football and still in situ, Franco Baldini, is Italian.
As a team they were meant to be everything Sherwood, the callow British coach, is not: astute, urbane, cool, calculated players of the import market. Levy has always favoured a continental set-up and could not hurry Harry Redknapp out of the door quickly enough to reintroduce it.
Yet when Sherwood took charge, the club was in the elite equivalent of crisis: seventh place with 27 points from 16 matches, at an average of 1.68. Tottenham have since taken 26 points from Sherwood’s 13 Premier League games at an average of two, and risen to fifth place. Last season, two points per game would have been enough to finish third. So Sherwood has improved Tottenham’s fortunes, just not by enough to chase down the top four.
The presumption, therefore, is that he will be gone at the end of the season. It is obviously what Sherwood fears, his brief time as Tottenham manager being regarded as a quirk, an anomaly, an over-promotion born of mid-season madness with his dismissal ending his coaching career before it has begun. Many think he did not deserve the job. Maybe so but he does not deserve this contempt, either.
Tottenham were unlucky at Stamford Bridge. The best team won but the emphatic nature of the scoreline flattered Chelsea. The second goal wasn’t a penalty, and even less a red card for Younes Kaboul, and once Michael Dawson had gone off injured, the defence was wide open. Tottenham would probably have lost the game anyway, but not by four goals, so there was no need for Sherwood to appear as overwrought as he did after the game. Something else is wrong.
Might it be that each time Spurs lose, or disappoint, Sherwood feels a chill wind blow? He has a contract that will have a year to run at the end of the season but that is scant protection with Tottenham paying up far bigger deals to sack managers in the past.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...d-Spurs-mess-Martin-Samuel.html#ixzz2vYqvPyuR
He can fuck off.
You aren't exactly a Lane regular yourself mate.....
Again, you work in Law, so I've read... wow....
Have you a loose screw? I stick up for my team in the threads against your negative dross, and support our team no matter what the football is look, or regardless of whether or not I get an erection from our offensive play.
You don't. Take a bit of self evaluation before you kick off on people, it might be enlightening. And stop littering the thread with the "Sammy Show"
That's me, not him.
I dont give a fuck. The Lane is full of mute cunts anyway....having a ticket is not the only thing that counts.
I put in enough time when I lived in England to be comfortable with my support levels now
How do you know he hasn't?
I apologise if you were offended by what I said, it's easy to say things which don't come across well in writing when you have people in the thread making personal insults when they're not right, I guess some of that gets hastily worded towards people who join in.
From what we know, AVB & Baldini wanted to work together at Roma and Chelsea, so there was a willingness there - it just didn't work out I guess.
I don't blame Levy for not backing Sherwood in the way you expect though, he has no experience or track record to suggest that it was a good idea, I think the only person who made people think it was more than a caretaker role was Sherwood. Why should it be more, why couldn't the guy prove that he had the good until the end of the season and earn the job.
I empathise with Sherwood greatly, but I also feel he's accountable for his own situation
I dont work in law you fucking knob.
My post numbers are a reflection of the amount of times you've quoted me
Ah, makes sense! I knew I'd read it somewhere, but perhaps you can see why I was dismayed!