Tottenham Hotspur v Ajax, Champions League Semi-Final, Tue 30th April

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Well, I think Poch is as desperate as anyone for a decent and solid right-back at the moment and Trippier clearly hasn't been one this season, apparently Poch thinks that KWP is an even worse option and he sees him in training everyday.


Or....... Poch actually quite rates Trippier....
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So finely balanced.

Both teams know they can hurt each other.

Both teams got games they want to win on the weekend.

Both teams know the 1st goal will be crucial but not necessarily fatal.

It is intriguing.
 
At last!! A piece that reflects the game that I watched last night:

Was this ultimately a first leg which left both sides disappointed? Tottenham will shoulder most of that regret, of course, but the mood of Donny van de Beek’s interview after the game betrayed that, for Ajax, this was an opportunity not quite taken.

At the half-hour mark at White Hart Lane, the visitors had enjoyed 67% possession, had fashioned six shots to Spurs’ one, and had fortressed themselves inside the home half for long periods, knifing their way through their hosts’ midfield at will. They had a one-goal lead, beautifully constructed and well-taken too, but it was inadequate reward for their early superiority. Post-game, Mauricio Pochettino bemoaned his side’s lethargic start and, while his players have been physically wilting for some time, that was only a partial diagnosis.


Early on, Ajax were just better. Brighter, smarter, full of creativity, intent and, sadly, a life that Tottenham just didn’t possess. At that stage of the game, they should have been on their way to building an insurmountable lead. But they weren’t. The second goal never arrived and while Spurs never came close to equalising, the flow of the rest of the match betrayed flaws within a team which has spent the last few months being praised to the heavens.

Matt Stead referenced this in his post-match piece, mentioning Moussa Sissoko’s dramatic effect on the game and also the fractures created by Pochettino’s pivot to a more physical and direct style.

It was a telling and instructive tweak. Ajax have earned their plaudits this season, but they are not invulnerable. Tottenham did not carry enough energy into the game, clearly, but perhaps the bigger mistake was to begin the tie with such an obvious inferiority complex. They tiptoed into the game. They played in a passive, deferential way which was always likely to suit their opposition’s strengths and they very nearly paid a heavy price.

What will have alarmed Erik ten Hag is how awkwardly his side adapted to Tottenham’s change in approach. From a stylistic perspective, the second 45 minutes was ugly and blunt, with Spurs no longer attempting to finesse their way through the midfield, opting instead to skip the press, aim long for their forwards, and attempt to create opportunities from the fragments. It was hardly compelling, but gradually the pressure did begin to build; Ajax are a socks-up, clean-shirt kind of side in midfield and attack, and that began to show.

After the break, Tottenham had 60% of possession, ten shots, and actually passed the ball with greater accuracy than their opponents. They weren’t very good at all, but they were still somehow in the ascendency.

And in so doing, Pochettino’s players exposed their dirty little secret: as attractive as they can be and as cultured as they are, Spurs are a very effective long-ball side. Admittedly less so without Harry Kane, but – still – when they’ve found difficulty this season, it’s that tactic that has often provided sanctuary. It’s delivered goals, too. Against Burnley at Wembley, twice against PSV in the Champions League group stage, and once more, late on, against Inter Milan.

It’s hardly pure, Route One football, registering just one or two on the Fashanu-Jones Scale. Instead of repeatedly aiming long for a target man, the approach seems to be characterised by a more eclectic force, mixing traditional long passes with direct, vertical running with the ball and a generalised haste. One of the reasons why Sissoko has been so important to this side, for instance, is not just because he’s able to cover so much space, but because when receiving possession his next move is nearly always to head north at top speed.

There were signs of that working on Tuesday night. Dele Alli had a snap shot right at the beginning of the half and, after Llorente had spidered around a few challenges, a second half-chance fell to him shortly after. Both Danny Rose and Lucas Moura might also have done better with balls that fell to them in space. Those moves all featured a degree of finesse somewhere, either at their genesis or end, but they all depended on short, sharp pulses of play and a state of relative chaos.

And that troubled Ajax. If in the first half they had looked every inch the team who brushed aside Madrid and Juventus, in the second it became easier to understand how they have kept just one clean sheet in their last eight Eredivisie games. Their individual parts were absolutely as advertised and their attacking play, collectively, was exactly as billed, but when the conditions of the game changed and the match became about something other than who could construct the sharpest triangles, their control loosened. That didn’t make them undeserving, they were clearly the better side and they conceded just a single shot on target, but the nature of that second half and what its rhythm seemed to show makes their one-goal lead appear very slender indeed.

The goals conceded by Ajax in 2019 also show encouraging trends for Tottenham. They have difficulty defending crosses and tracking runners who move late into the box – Juventus and Cristiano Ronaldo showed that – but even domestically they’ve demonstrated a sporadic inability to protect the area in front of their defence, and also exhibited issues at the back post and inability to prevent crossing opportunities. Many of those league games have been one-sided, Ajax have scored four goals or more in four of their last five, but the way they concede and the weaknesses which exist either side of the outstanding Matthijs de Ligt should make the return leg very tricky indeed.

Of course, Pochettino will have Son Heung-Min available in a week’s time. Son’s goal threat is of critical importance given the deficit that Spurs will be chasing, but he also aligns conveniently with those Ajax issues. From a structural perspective, his mobility offers a waspish pressing option that Tottenham didn’t have in London and his speed will restore the counter-attacking threat that proved so invaluable against Manchester City. More importantly, though, he offers a direct challenge to any isolated full-back, forcing a defence to compensate and leave space somewhere else within the attacking zone. Son is two-footed, he can beat his man on either side, and one defender alone can’t mark him.

Logically, he should replace Alli. Pochettino is incredibly loyal to his young midfielder, but he will surely have recognised that Alli is not comfortable playing with a cast on his wrist and should also have noticed that, in the game at the Etihad and again on Tuesday night, many moves died at his feet. His touch has vanished, the instinct in his passing has been mislaid; if Spurs are to make Ajax uncomfortable, then everything they do in the second leg has to be done much, much quicker. Son will grease their gears, no doubt about it, but a Champions League semi-final isn’t the right time to allow anyone else to play their way into form.

To claim Spurs as a favourites is clearly too optimistic. It would be disrespectful, too, because Ajax earned their lead and haven’t progressed to this stage of the competition via a series of anomalies. They’re excellent, but they’re also now being over-estimated. The pundits, the press and perhaps even Tottenham themselves have been a little blinded by the translucent light around these players and are guilty of ignoring their minor, but significant imperfections.

There is no mountain to climb now, only a game to win.

Seb Stafford-Bloor is on Twitter.
 
Beat them away and we go through.

Simple as that.

Draw is not good enough. And a loss isn't good enough. Are we capable of beating Ajax? Yes.

Pressure is all on Ajax.
 
Beat them away and we go through.

Simple as that.

Draw is not good enough. And a loss isn't good enough. Are we capable of beating Ajax? Yes.

Pressure is all on Ajax.
Yeap..total roll reversal..up till now theyve had a jolly pressure wise with no expectation .. now there heavy favourites in front of a very expectant home crowd and european media creaming over them


We have a great chance of party pooping.
 
We've looked a lot more likely to exit this tournament before now... turning around a 1 goal deficit is a piece of piss compared to whats gone on.

YIDS.
 
Yeap..total roll reversal..up till now theyve had a jolly pressure wise with no expectation .. now there heavy favourites in front of a very expectant home crowd and european media creaming over them


We have a great chance of party pooping.

Just need to be physical from the start. Crowd out midfield so they don't have 3 on 1 like the opening 30 minutes of the first half last night and make sure we take chances when they come and with Son, I am confident we will.

Alternatively, they may decide to be shithouses, sit back and waste time knowing that it's something we do tend to struggle with and potentially look to break on the counter.

Should be an interesting encounter. I personally think Ajax know just one way of playing and we bossed them for 60 minutes.
 
Positives - my first visit to Chick King since we have been back home. £2.50. Marvelous.

1882 1882 has now sampled their delights and is a convert.

Meeting up with Legacy Lilywhite Legacy Lilywhite Mrs Perryman Mrs Perryman Chucklevision82 Chucklevision82 1882 1882 57 varieties 57 varieties along with 5 other mates always makes for a good crack.

There was also a guest appearance from the forum pantomime villian.

Oh, and as for the game? Shit.

Good atmosphere though.

Ahh shit. Gutted I missed this meet up. Are you all doing an Everton meet?
 
At last!! A piece that reflects the game that I watched last night:

Was this ultimately a first leg which left both sides disappointed? Tottenham will shoulder most of that regret, of course, but the mood of Donny van de Beek’s interview after the game betrayed that, for Ajax, this was an opportunity not quite taken.

At the half-hour mark at White Hart Lane, the visitors had enjoyed 67% possession, had fashioned six shots to Spurs’ one, and had fortressed themselves inside the home half for long periods, knifing their way through their hosts’ midfield at will. They had a one-goal lead, beautifully constructed and well-taken too, but it was inadequate reward for their early superiority. Post-game, Mauricio Pochettino bemoaned his side’s lethargic start and, while his players have been physically wilting for some time, that was only a partial diagnosis.


Early on, Ajax were just better. Brighter, smarter, full of creativity, intent and, sadly, a life that Tottenham just didn’t possess. At that stage of the game, they should have been on their way to building an insurmountable lead. But they weren’t. The second goal never arrived and while Spurs never came close to equalising, the flow of the rest of the match betrayed flaws within a team which has spent the last few months being praised to the heavens.

Matt Stead referenced this in his post-match piece, mentioning Moussa Sissoko’s dramatic effect on the game and also the fractures created by Pochettino’s pivot to a more physical and direct style.

It was a telling and instructive tweak. Ajax have earned their plaudits this season, but they are not invulnerable. Tottenham did not carry enough energy into the game, clearly, but perhaps the bigger mistake was to begin the tie with such an obvious inferiority complex. They tiptoed into the game. They played in a passive, deferential way which was always likely to suit their opposition’s strengths and they very nearly paid a heavy price.

What will have alarmed Erik ten Hag is how awkwardly his side adapted to Tottenham’s change in approach. From a stylistic perspective, the second 45 minutes was ugly and blunt, with Spurs no longer attempting to finesse their way through the midfield, opting instead to skip the press, aim long for their forwards, and attempt to create opportunities from the fragments. It was hardly compelling, but gradually the pressure did begin to build; Ajax are a socks-up, clean-shirt kind of side in midfield and attack, and that began to show.

After the break, Tottenham had 60% of possession, ten shots, and actually passed the ball with greater accuracy than their opponents. They weren’t very good at all, but they were still somehow in the ascendency.

And in so doing, Pochettino’s players exposed their dirty little secret: as attractive as they can be and as cultured as they are, Spurs are a very effective long-ball side. Admittedly less so without Harry Kane, but – still – when they’ve found difficulty this season, it’s that tactic that has often provided sanctuary. It’s delivered goals, too. Against Burnley at Wembley, twice against PSV in the Champions League group stage, and once more, late on, against Inter Milan.

It’s hardly pure, Route One football, registering just one or two on the Fashanu-Jones Scale. Instead of repeatedly aiming long for a target man, the approach seems to be characterised by a more eclectic force, mixing traditional long passes with direct, vertical running with the ball and a generalised haste. One of the reasons why Sissoko has been so important to this side, for instance, is not just because he’s able to cover so much space, but because when receiving possession his next move is nearly always to head north at top speed.

There were signs of that working on Tuesday night. Dele Alli had a snap shot right at the beginning of the half and, after Llorente had spidered around a few challenges, a second half-chance fell to him shortly after. Both Danny Rose and Lucas Moura might also have done better with balls that fell to them in space. Those moves all featured a degree of finesse somewhere, either at their genesis or end, but they all depended on short, sharp pulses of play and a state of relative chaos.

And that troubled Ajax. If in the first half they had looked every inch the team who brushed aside Madrid and Juventus, in the second it became easier to understand how they have kept just one clean sheet in their last eight Eredivisie games. Their individual parts were absolutely as advertised and their attacking play, collectively, was exactly as billed, but when the conditions of the game changed and the match became about something other than who could construct the sharpest triangles, their control loosened. That didn’t make them undeserving, they were clearly the better side and they conceded just a single shot on target, but the nature of that second half and what its rhythm seemed to show makes their one-goal lead appear very slender indeed.

The goals conceded by Ajax in 2019 also show encouraging trends for Tottenham. They have difficulty defending crosses and tracking runners who move late into the box – Juventus and Cristiano Ronaldo showed that – but even domestically they’ve demonstrated a sporadic inability to protect the area in front of their defence, and also exhibited issues at the back post and inability to prevent crossing opportunities. Many of those league games have been one-sided, Ajax have scored four goals or more in four of their last five, but the way they concede and the weaknesses which exist either side of the outstanding Matthijs de Ligt should make the return leg very tricky indeed.

Of course, Pochettino will have Son Heung-Min available in a week’s time. Son’s goal threat is of critical importance given the deficit that Spurs will be chasing, but he also aligns conveniently with those Ajax issues. From a structural perspective, his mobility offers a waspish pressing option that Tottenham didn’t have in London and his speed will restore the counter-attacking threat that proved so invaluable against Manchester City. More importantly, though, he offers a direct challenge to any isolated full-back, forcing a defence to compensate and leave space somewhere else within the attacking zone. Son is two-footed, he can beat his man on either side, and one defender alone can’t mark him.

Logically, he should replace Alli. Pochettino is incredibly loyal to his young midfielder, but he will surely have recognised that Alli is not comfortable playing with a cast on his wrist and should also have noticed that, in the game at the Etihad and again on Tuesday night, many moves died at his feet. His touch has vanished, the instinct in his passing has been mislaid; if Spurs are to make Ajax uncomfortable, then everything they do in the second leg has to be done much, much quicker. Son will grease their gears, no doubt about it, but a Champions League semi-final isn’t the right time to allow anyone else to play their way into form.

To claim Spurs as a favourites is clearly too optimistic. It would be disrespectful, too, because Ajax earned their lead and haven’t progressed to this stage of the competition via a series of anomalies. They’re excellent, but they’re also now being over-estimated. The pundits, the press and perhaps even Tottenham themselves have been a little blinded by the translucent light around these players and are guilty of ignoring their minor, but significant imperfections.

There is no mountain to climb now, only a game to win.

Seb Stafford-Bloor is on Twitter.

A good read.

And a few of us said exactly the same thing.

Alli will play though if fit.
 
Not really, they loooked pretty comfortable for the majority of 2nd half.

There was clear gulf of class, they had a working game plan and their midfielders were creating clear cut chances whilst ours looked like they were fresh from League One especially Alli and Wanyama.

You do realise that we were unable to have a full 90 minutes worth without Aurier, our clearly obvious number one choice in European games, Vertonghen, Sissoko, Winks, Lamela, Son & Kane don't you?

How many teams in the world are missing that kind of talent at the moment? 7 of our best players in their respective positions yet fans are still slating us? It's fucking ridiculous!

We are so strained for numbers we are having to play Janssen, a footballer not even given a squad number this season in Premier League games. Have a bit of empathy for the situation, a situation that saw us have 7 genuinely key players unable to play 90 minutes for us last night compared to an Ajax team without a blemish or jot on their injury front & one that had an entire football association cancel all games to give them an even bigger advantage than morally they should have been allowed.

A gulf in class? Short sighted and absolutely absurd
 
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We've looked a lot more likely to exit this tournament before now... turning around a 1 goal deficit is a piece of piss compared to whats gone on.

YIDS.
Yeah, needing a goal with 10 minutes to go at home to Inter, a goal behind and needing a win with 12 minutes to go at home to PSV, needing a goal with 5 minutes to go at fucking Barcelona, down and out twice during the City game...
 
All the pressure is on Ajax, they have everything in favor. On the other hand, we have nothing to lose and a lot to win. We have to attack to the death and put a lot of pressure on them in Amsterdam. COYS
 
Well, I think Poch is as desperate as anyone for a decent and solid right-back at the moment and Trippier clearly hasn't been one this season, apparently Poch thinks that KWP is an even worse option and he sees him in training everyday.
It's got to be dishearting being an attacking young right back, the only fit right backs form is bordering on Sunday league level, and the manager opts to bring on a centreback to play RB when your team need a goal...
 
A good read.

And a few of us said exactly the same thing.

Alli will play though if fit.
I would also play him. I agree with the author, his broken wrist/hand whatever is without doubt affecting him, his running action is different and I'm convinced his brain is taking over to stop him going into a challenge as he normally would in case he injures himself further.

A front 2 of Son and Lucas with a rotating Eriksen and Dele behind would still be who I would select, Dele and Eriksen are two of our most intelligent players. There is enough variation skill and running to cause Ajax problems.
 
The most important thing for this game is to make sure we beat Bournemouth on Saturday.

Do that, and our domestic season is thankfully wrapped up.

Then we can concentrate on the semi final.
 
I would also play him. I agree with the author, his broken wrist/hand whatever is without doubt affecting him, his running action is different and I'm convinced his brain is taking over to stop him going into a challenge as he normally would in case he injures himself further.

A front 2 of Son and Lucas with a rotating Eriksen and Dele behind would still be who I would select, Dele and Eriksen are two of our most intelligent players. There is enough variation skill and running to cause Ajax problems.

Moura may not start.

Logically yes as his pace is an asset but he is one-footed and the pressure seemed to get to him.

Llorente's physicality did bother the Ajax defence so him and Son for me I think.

Sissoko/Wanyama or Dier, Eriksen and Alli if all are fit.

Foyth right back. Vertonghen if fit with Alderweireld although I thought Sanchez was fine and Rose.
 
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