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Match Tottenham Hotspur v Qarabağ FK | Thursday 26th Sept | Tottenham Hotspur Stadium | 8pm

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It’s not the Tottenham way though is it. We have long proud tradition of absolutely bolloxing the shit out of these ties.

I remember being 1-0 down to Shamrock rovers at home with 30 mins to go and Defoe having to rescue us. Harry then repeated the trick against PAOK we went 2-0 down, brought on Bale but could only get it back to 2-1 and it essentially knocked us out.

I was at the PAK one.
Don't forget we actually lost against Mura.
We threw away a 2 goal lead against Zagreb

We have form and it all stems from resting key players. It's utter nonsense. If you want to win a cup, you have to play the best players.
Or at least maintain coherent play by not making too many changes at a time.
 
I disagree, a home match va Qarabag won't sell out. Even if it's priced at a level where we make a loss once costs are involved it won't sell out. Trying to price this game for a sell out is futile imo.
I reckon loads would go at £10, general sale early doors, we could easily get 50,000 plus in. People who want to try it but it’s been too expensive previously - at £10 to go or £30 for TNT, they would go.

This and Elfsborg should be priced much lower. Roma, charge Prem prices as that will have a lot of interest. AZ I’m not sure, so £35 doesn’t sound too bad for that one, they are half decent and being Dutch i expect an attractive style of football - but haven’t watched them in at least 5 years if ever.
 
Yes and if this was our first foray in Europe for a long time then sure, we would pay that. But like Villa with their £97 CL tickets.

But, we’ve been in a CL final in the last 5 years, I’ve seen us play Barca with Messi, Madrid with Ronaldo, Juve, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax, Benfica, Inter, AC. Qarabag on a Thursday night is incredibly unappealing, particularly at £30. At £10 I might have made the trip - I suspect we will be very empty Thursday and that’s your reason why

It'd not "like Villa" at all.... Villa put their prices UP for CL games...... Nearly double at some price points.
 
I was at the PAK one.
Don't forget we actually lost against Mura.
We threw away a 2 goal lead against Zagreb

We have form and it all stems from resting key players. It's utter nonsense. If you want to win a cup, you have to play the best players.
Or at least maintain coherent play by not making too many changes at a time.
We never pitch it right, we start players with one foot out the door - sure they have ability, but they also have zero desire. We make 8/9 changes and look like complete strangers.

I mean other than the first 30 seconds, I thought we were bloody good on Saturday, not perfect but it was a good entertaining performance - but it annoyed me that I had to watch that shit the previous Wednesday - a horribly disjointed performance where 11 strangers got together with no semblance of a plan and an oak tree in goal
 
Dnipro in 2014 was £20 + £2 fees. And that didn't fill the old WHL if I remember correctly.

Was a fun night ,an Adebayor fuelled comeback.
I remember going to the game where Harry scored a hat trick and went in goal and Lamela scored the Rabona - I paid £20 to sit on the half way line in the West Stand. We only had 20 odd thousand in that night, yet £30 for this game with 62,000 seats.

Good luck
 
I remember going to the game where Harry scored a hat trick and went in goal and Lamela scored the Rabona - I paid £20 to sit on the half way line in the West Stand. We only had 20 odd thousand in that night, yet £30 for this game with 62,000 seats.

Good luck
Yes we treated ourselves to West Stand vs Dnipro too. Unheard of for league games back then.

I'd be surprised if there is much more demand generated from a big price cut, maybe 5,000 more or something like that. But I agree £10 tickets all round would be an interesting experiment.

Kids are £10 tonight tbf.
 
Lords by the way now charge £175 - for the day which is probably about 6 hours, so its not cheaper

I can't think of too many concerts by top bands charging less than £30 in London, and even going out for a meal in London £30 goes nowhere except at McDonalds

Spurs players (who provide the entertainment you want to watch) earn probably 10 or 20 times what players earn in L1 or L2,, but Spurs £30 tickets are priced at a similar level to Leyton Orient

So I really don't buy the argument they are significantly over priced, and when people will spend more than that on transport to ground, a beer or three on the way and a light bite somewhere
 
We never pitch it right, we start players with one foot out the door - sure they have ability, but they also have zero desire. We make 8/9 changes and look like complete strangers.

I mean other than the first 30 seconds, I thought we were bloody good on Saturday, not perfect but it was a good entertaining performance - but it annoyed me that I had to watch that shit the previous Wednesday - a horribly disjointed performance where 11 strangers got together with no semblance of a plan and an oak tree in goal
I guess Ange's hope is now that we don't particularly have "deadwood" or players with a foot out of the door. Even with 8 changes the team should be full of desire/commitment.

That said, it's simply too many changes to expect a free-flowing performance.

As said previously, constant rotation of 4-5 players makes more sense to me.
 
Spot on - can I afford £30 = yes, would we ever entice enough people to sell out the stadium at £30 = No, not for Qarabag at home in the league phase.
The biggest "problem" is that we now have 20k extra seats to fill vs 10 years ago. It's relatively easy to getting the nutters and those who want the points (myself included in both categories) to turn up, but getting the final 10k or 20k to turn out on a dark, cold, rainy autumn/winter Thursday (and work/school) night for group stage EL games is never going to work, even at £20 or even £15.
 
But we're not paying that. That's the whole point.
Let me break it down for you

Spurs not played in Europe for decade, get drawn to play Servette in the Conference league, sell tickets at £75 = big demand, 50,000+ in because we haven’t played in Europe for a decade

Spurs play Qarabag in Europa after 1 year Euro absence, sell tickets at £30 = 35,000 fans top, and I am being generous.

Keep up
 
Yes we treated ourselves to West Stand vs Dnipro too. Unheard of for league games back then.

I'd be surprised if there is much more demand generated from a big price cut, maybe 5,000 more or something like that. But I agree £10 tickets all round would be an interesting experiment.

Kids are £10 tonight tbf.
Yeah fair enough for kids - but it’s a school night so getting back 11pm/midnight is a bit of a no no depending on age.

Just extending £10 to seniors I think would have got a couple of thousand more through the door. It would also have soothed a few of them.

My biggest bug bear with all of this and it’s not Spurs fault, is away tickets being capped at £30 in the Prem - I could go on all day about that stupid fucking decision but won’t. Needless to say I used to get to 4/5 aways a season before that price cap came in and haven’t been to an away since it has - other than sitting in the home end of course
 
Lords by the way now charge £175 - for the day which is probably about 6 hours, so its not cheaper

I can't think of too many concerts by top bands charging less than £30 in London, and even going out for a meal in London £30 goes nowhere except at McDonalds

Spurs players (who provide the entertainment you want to watch) earn probably 10 or 20 times what players earn in L1 or L2,, but Spurs £30 tickets are priced at a similar level to Leyton Orient

So I really don't buy the argument they are significantly over priced, and when people will spend more than that on transport to ground, a beer or three on the way and a light bite somewhere
Sure, but you’re not getting Tottenhams top product are you. You will be getting a B team and youth, the players we will all be moaning about on Thursday night.

It’s like paying to watch Oasis and then getting a tribute band instead
 
Let me break it down for you

Spurs not played in Europe for decade, get drawn to play Servette in the Conference league, sell tickets at £75 = big demand, 50,000+ in because we haven’t played in Europe for a decade

Spurs play Qarabag in Europa after 1 year Euro absence, sell tickets at £30 = 35,000 fans top, and I am being generous.

Keep up
There's no need to be arsey, I'm just disagreeing with you. Don't take it personally.

£30 for European nights at the lane in 2024 isn't a bad deal. I don't like the fact that football costs this much now, but it's not unique to Tottenham. I disagree with the fact you could get away with £75 in the conference league no matter what context you invent.
 
I guess Ange's hope is now that we don't particularly have "deadwood" or players with a foot out of the door. Even with 8 changes the team should be full of desire/commitment.

That said, it's simply too many changes to expect a free-flowing performance.

As said previously, constant rotation of 4-5 players makes more sense to me.
Yeah, number of changes is as important as who the players are. No point putting Mikey Moore in with Werner, Lankshear and Bergvall - he has done that already and it doesn’t advance him. He would be better off having 15 mins with Maddison, Solanke, Son/BJ/Kulu than 90 mins with the aforementioned
 
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