Couldn't agree with you more.
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The area Tottenham is still unfortunately a shithole. I have to travel there regularly and its somewhere where I would never live or be safe raising kids there.
Even the high road which usually is the saving grace of a 'bad area' Is dodgy as fuck. The part leading towards upper edmonton (and upper edmonton itself tbh) is junkie/crack head prossies central.
The gang problems in the area is crazy as well being that Tottenham beefs Tottenham. Take a left off Bruce Grove Station and your in Broadwater Farm but literally walk a few minutes up the high road and the Park Lane/Northumberland Park side of Tottenham have control. That's why there are so many stabbings and violent crimes as the gangs are not even separated by an area/postcode.
Even the high road which usually is the saving grace of a 'bad area' Is dodgy as fuck. The part leading towards upper edmonton (and upper edmonton itself tbh) is junkie/crack head prossies central.
The gang problems in the area is crazy as well being that Tottenham beefs Tottenham. Take a left off Bruce Grove Station and your in Broadwater Farm but literally walk a few minutes up the high road and the Park Lane/Northumberland Park side of Tottenham have control. That's why there are so many stabbings and violent crimes as the gangs are not even separated by an area/postcode.
It's the same in Islington/Finsbury Park...
The Macha Latte and the Cortado gangs are FIERCE enemies .... and that's before you even take into account the Deconstructed Coffee Crew starting to widen their net out of Stoke Newington...
It's fucking war over there!
Some of the milk wand burns injuries I've seen are brutal... and do you know the damage a cocoa sprinkle shaker can do to the eyes?
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LOL. .I work there every week. I'm starting to think a night out with him must be one wild ride!!! I lived in Peckham in the 90's and belive me I know what rough look likes.
As someone who lives in the area, and has done for most of his life, it's hard to disagree with the above.
There are though snippets which aren't that bad at all.
Tower Gardens estate - and across the Roundway. (Rivulet Road/Compton Crescent area)
Also around Weir Hall Road, plus Devonshire Hill Lane and beyond.
I certainly don't see myself moving in the foreseeable.
Not forgetting that I can go from front door to my seat in the ground within 20 minutes.
Often wondered, what are the pubs like when there's no game?
yeh sorry mate no offence intended. As I said, I sometimes have to go there for work and it's not great.
Even the N15 part of Tottenham is a dump as well. Seven Sisters is decent though.
Exactly like it is on here...
Nostalgia and Cunt Offs!!
2 things every decent pub needs.
I live in Tottenham and I'm raising my daughter in Tottenham so I feel well positioned to comment. I really do understand the outsiders view in but in reality it's as sketchy as you want to be really. In general, I love living in the area. Oh and that video with the div from Plymouth 
poverty porn wally.
poverty porn wally.I'm not a pub person, but whenever I past the Antwerp it's always virtually empty.
The New Moon on Lordship Lane does well.
Hardcore Spurs boozer.
None taken. The best parts are generally North Tottenham.
Mind you, The Hale is really taking off. It's like a mini city.
Yeh also Meriden waters project looks like it will eventually be nice. Enfield Council have ploughed shit loads of cash into that to the point they nearly became bankrupt.
Beehive has a decent trade I think
And on a smaller scale to the North East, Blackhorse Road has changed a lot.
The Standard has long gone.
My mate's sister used to strip in there years ago.
Yep, very solid trade. The only one really. The new Vic owners are very active and have all sorts of events there too.. Both the Vic and the Bluecoats do very well for gigs and NFL
Wasn’t a fan of the new vic at first but it’s ok tbf.
Not surprised The Ship closed down…
Same but I still rarely go.
The Ship closed down due to structural issues.. They had been taken over by the Beehive manager so I was hoping for a big improvement. I understand the Elmhurst has been purchased by Heineken so that could be interesting.
Interesting. The Ship was peak spit and sawdust!
We tend to go to Oz Erciyes then to two brewers or vic. Beehive or The Volunteer after.
Oz Erciyes is the best option for food on the high rd 
Volunteer is a cracking pub.
Volunteer is a cracking pub.