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It’s extremely easy to miss a point that in one post claims AVB wasn’t a failure partly because of his role in bringing in the likes of Lloris, Dembele, Eriksen, Vertonghen and Lamela......then in the next post claims AVB had no decent players to work with and the club was unstable.
He was gifted seven signings in his first window. Isn’t that your dream scenario for any manager? Now it was unstable times?
Bale left under his tenure.....probably got sick of playing the 10-1 formation.
I'm no fan of AVB but to be fair to the guy it's not easy to gel 7 new players.
But.....but......but........SIGNINGS!!!!!!!
AVBs tenure didn’t account for much - it wasn’t a great success, it wasn’t a great failure. The point is that the team was undergoing a period of huge transition. The Redknapp side was breaking up a new team would be required and clearly that transition happened too quickly. You simply cannot sign 13 players over a 12 month period and expect instant results - especially when the spine as been lost. He had some good players available clearly and clearly he signed some excellent ones as well. The primary issue was always the scale and timeframe of change. I expect few to be able to succeed in such circumstance. And Bale left under his tenure because the biggest club in the world wanted him. They wanted him because under AVB he became one of the worlds best players. I have watched a tremendous amount of Bale since and his final season with us still remains his best in terms of performances.
#BringbackSoldado
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He had just scored 30 odd goals in La Liga, Chadli was a solid squad player, Eriksen is worth 100M, Adebayor banged in shit loads for Harry and Tim, Poch got from Lamela and Dembele what AVB never could, and saw right through Vlad.
Then there was VDV who AVB decided should play second fiddle to Siggy and Dempsey, and Bale, and Jan, and Ledley, and Defoe, and Lennon and Kaboul and Corluka.....a load of players in there that helped us get 4th twice.
But AVB had nothing to work with despite inheriting the 4th best team in England, and winning the transfer window..
We shit on AVB but tbh the 2012/13 season has so many great memories and is one of my favorites. The win at Man U, Bale's winner at West Ham, 2 goals in 2 mins against Woolwich, the six minute turnaround against city, both legs of the Lyon game...
Of course, looking back it's fairly obvious that was just Bale that season, and almost all of the above was due to him. Still, I haven't felt as low in football as I was when Woolwich won against Newcastle on the final day. Closest to tears football has ever brought me.
Of course, looking back it's fairly obvious that was just Bale that season, and almost all of the above was due to him. Still, I haven't felt as low in football as I was when Woolwich won against Newcastle on the final day. Closest to tears football has ever brought me.
What a ghastly thread
Bale left because Real fucking Madrid came calling. And Levy wasnt going to say no to a world record fee. I didnt like AVB either but lets just stick to facts.
Other than Kane , all our main players are ....SIGNINGS!!!
Exactly but apparently Levy doesn’t make any
I love avb so this thread is hurting me. But he didn’t did very well with us. First season was pretty okay to be fair. Second was terrible but so many new players and no bale would make almost all managers to be a shambles that year.
Question re AVB
Would we have been better to keep Harry for 2 years and then move on to Poch or was AVB / Derr Wood a necessity step towards Poch ?
I still have huge respect for Harry’s Spurs team and very little regard for AVB.
But is it true that our most important recent game was the Champions League Final which the Chavs won ? That defined the Harry era more than that wonderful night up at Man Shity when 3 meter Peter did the business. What a night
Would we have been better to keep Harry for 2 years and then move on to Poch or was AVB / Derr Wood a necessity step towards Poch ?
I still have huge respect for Harry’s Spurs team and very little regard for AVB.
But is it true that our most important recent game was the Champions League Final which the Chavs won ? That defined the Harry era more than that wonderful night up at Man Shity when 3 meter Peter did the business. What a night
True he does every window ... sometimes good sometimes bad signings. Only this last window hes failed at signing anything.
It's easy to say stuff like that, that he should have won things with Porto and Zenit, but you only have to look at what various managers have done with expensively assembled squads in the PL to know it's never that easy. If Pochettino could have finished above two teams, clearly inferior to his in 2015/16 we'd have been champions. But he couldn't. Look at what various managers have done at ManU in recent years. Not even got CL football, Same Mourinho and Conte at Chelsea the year after they won titles.
AVB also won a Europa League, something very few, much bigger and more expensively assembled teams have failed to do, including us.
Sherwood was a fucking blagger.
I don't think we would have appointed Poch straight after Redknapp - nearly always the new guy is sort of polar opposite of the predecessor.
Having AVB's rigid tactics, followed by Sherwood's anarchy allowed us to settle on Poch.
Going off topic from the discussion of AVB, it’s clear that there were several pivotal games that have helped shape the club (for better or worse).
Our 2-1 win over Chelsea at the Lane (Lennon with the winner) was a huge step forward in terms of bypassing that mental block.
Lasagna-gate. Who knows what would have happened if we’d broken into the top 4 back then.
Woolwich 4-4. That comeback lifted the team at the right time.
Beating the Sheik Mansour team to qualify for the CL. My nerves are still shaking from that game.
As mentioned already, Chelsea v Bayern had big consequences for us.
There have been a number of huge games under Pochettino (including the Madrid results last season). For me the 2-1 win over Woolwich was pivotal, as it was the moment when Pochettino’s style of play really fell into place.
Sherwood was and is a dick, but whilst I know Kane played for us under both Redknapp and AVB, Sherwood giving him a run of games at the end of that season helped Kane to prove he could cut it in the Prem, which in turn put a bit of pressure on Pochettino to play him.
Our 2-1 win over Chelsea at the Lane (Lennon with the winner) was a huge step forward in terms of bypassing that mental block.
Lasagna-gate. Who knows what would have happened if we’d broken into the top 4 back then.
Woolwich 4-4. That comeback lifted the team at the right time.
Beating the Sheik Mansour team to qualify for the CL. My nerves are still shaking from that game.
As mentioned already, Chelsea v Bayern had big consequences for us.
There have been a number of huge games under Pochettino (including the Madrid results last season). For me the 2-1 win over Woolwich was pivotal, as it was the moment when Pochettino’s style of play really fell into place.
Sherwood was and is a dick, but whilst I know Kane played for us under both Redknapp and AVB, Sherwood giving him a run of games at the end of that season helped Kane to prove he could cut it in the Prem, which in turn put a bit of pressure on Pochettino to play him.
Unlike much of this season's slick harmony, and scintillating football?
I’m not going to bite mate. Those who try to compare AVB with Pochettino - to try to make some silly point scoring notion of equivalency, have to be trading on some ancient slight because there is no reasonable comparison to be made if you have eyes in your head and a brain to go with them. You and Hood carry on, because your opinions mean literally nothing to me. This place is fucked anyway - it’s no longer about Tottenham - it’s about individual posters. Many of whom I don’t have the slightest respect for.
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You might want to remove your ‘agree’ because I went further than my original point.
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