We are trying to win things, silly.
Going head-to-head in the spending stakes with 5 richer teams is a hiding to nothing. We're on a different path... It's not taken us to the promise land yet, but the progress shown ought to be faith-worthy.
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We are trying to win things, silly.
Going head-to-head in the spending stakes with 5 richer teams is a hiding to nothing. We're on a different path... It's not taken us to the promise land yet, but the progress shown ought to be faith-worthy.
Don't get me wrong this wasn't aimed at looking at what good has come out of today, it is more focused on it being an off day. I thought we did well in the first half but once the game juiced up with about 20 minutes to go Watford just kicked it up a gear and we had no response. I'm concerned about Eriksens form more than most. He doesn't seem to be bouncing all over looking for the ball and we were limited in our ability to break a stubborn defence down. Years gone by we've scraped something at Watford, it's always been a tightly contested game but alas, this time it wasn't to be.
I do wonder if it would have been different having the option of Son to get amongst it. He seems to like a goal against them. We'll find our groove, it's just a big shame we couldn't demonstrate a way to keep the lead and take control of the game. Their home advantage really played a part in this one but regardless it's a disappointing end to a great week
Ha ha really...thought this was a forum where tottenham supporters could vent and air views...we don't have to agree but we are all spurs and allowed an opinion...then another fucking 12 year old starts..you think I give a flying fuck what you think but I know if we were in a pub chatting you wouldn't be so quick
Maybe but today called for quicker changes and better options.
I don't think either should be beyond manager and club.
If that fails then maybe okay.
Today I think all and any criticism is richly merited.
It's the threat of being dropped.
Eriksen, Dele and Kane know they will start against Liverpool. David Silva knows that if he underperforms, Bernardo Silva, Gundogan, Sane etc will get chosen.
Now I'm not equating us to City as we don't have bottomless pockets to build and pay a megastar squad, but the point remains that barring injury or suspension, Kane, Dele, Eriksen play, regardless of performance.
Squad depth!
I'm not sure about that.
I think Mane, Salah and Firmino know they will pretty much start every week. Just like I'd assume Kane, Eriksen and Dele would start most weeks for us. They are crucial to our team. It's not a depth issue (We aren't going to get ANYONE as influential as these guys who want to come and sit on the bench).
Plus, there have been times where Dele and Eriksen have both been on the bench in the league. We tend to miss them.
Perhaps it's somewhat of an exaggeration because I'm focussing on the second half where he was very good and we got control.
However, compared to gems like:
And:
I'm happy to stick by what I said. It's fucking obvious that Dembele's fitness is the issue. He's never been massively pacey yet has been one of our key players for years... So gee, I wonder what the problem with a chronically-injured player on the decline of his career could possibly be.
I do agree with everything you’ve said here.
I just feel Rose style would of suited us more today. And Davies had a poorer than usual performance.
this is a terrible performance! the fallout from this game pales in comparison to manchester united or west ham! no one has asked for the board to resign. no one has asked for a change of manager. it's pathetic! and where's our plane with a banner eh? look, either we unite and show some real disdain for the club or we may as well just stop posting! sort it out!
Your glass is SO half empty I think there's a hole in the bottom. : P
What many argue is our strongest line-up:
Lloris,
Trippier, Toby, Jan, Ben
Dier, Dembele
Son, Eriksen, Dele
Kane
Now I present the bench options:
Voorm, Gazzaniga
Sanchez, Aurier, Rose, KWP, Foyth (inj)
Wanyama, Sissoko
Lucas, Lamela, Winks
Llorente (wasted), GKN (pony)
+ kids
Throughout the season there will be players dropping in and out; that's why you have depth... We're using ours right now; whilst the few that need easing back in (Son, Winks, Wanyama) get the chance to do so. Of course, we'd have all preferred a supa-dupa upgrade on Llorente & GKN in the summer, but you paint an unnecessarily bleak picture.
We're 9 points from 4 games. Like I said, no need to throw the squad under the bus.
Only Salah is guaranteed a start. Mane and Firmino have Lallana, Keita, Oxlade-Chamberlain (when fit) and others we've never heard of (and care less about), breathing down their neck.
We have: Sissoko, Lamela, Llorente, Winks, Wanyama, Amos,Tripp.
Not a Dier or Sandro anchor style defensive mid but more a peak condition Wanyama or Kante style player who has the ability, and more importantly mobility, to screen the entire area in front of the back 3, which allows Dele and Eriksen far more freedom. I don't think Winksy has that type of game in his locker yet but he could well develop into that style of player.
I'm not sure about that. I can't remember a time (Though don't watch them everyweek) where that front 3 isn't starting games in the league. Unless of course being rested in the build up to their Champions League final last season, which would probably see us do similar.
Lallana, Keita, AOC would all be playing centrally anyway. Not as part of their front 3.
Winks played there when we bossed Liverpool. He has all the attributes needed to control a game and make play from the deeper position. Not sure why people still don't see that in him.
He went toe to toe with Modric. Twice.
But we're richer than the other 14. And they all spent more than us.
The different path you mention leads to record profits but ultimately missing out on silverware, year after fucking year
I'd agree with most of the 1st XI. (Lucas vs Son)
The bench options are a bit thin! After four average to poor performances, who would you consider replacing Eriksen with?
or else what?
relegation?
we won't beat man city's billion pound team to the title?
bit vague. I'd say getting a fit Winks is much more important to our team than a fit Wanyama.