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I HATE it. Destroys the flow of the game. And checking every goal to see if it's 100% legitimate is utter bollocks as you can only half-heatedly celebrate for fear of being bitterly disappointed.

Apparently 8+ mins should have been added to that half. Notice how only 5 were added because the refs don't wanna embarrass themselves by whacking the real number on the board. It's pathetic.
More 10mins if you add in the goals as well
 
And after a couple of years when it becomes the "norm" we will cut to a commercial brake whilst waiting for the decision, brought to you by PaddyPower, shown on the telly or on the big screens in the stadiums, offering odds of 20-1 with wi-fi in the stadiums 60,000 people with their heads bowed in their phones placing instant in game bets, then raging when they lose, taking that rage out on the next player to make a mistake, fans screaming for VAR, players screaming for VAR and so the circle will go. I give you the future of football.
I didn't see your original post at the time. If I had, I honestly think I may have thought it a bit too pessimistic. But, last night, I had exactly this thought and was mortified.
 
I think VAR has a place in the modern game, just not how we saw it implemented last night. If every goal, yellow card or foul is checked by it, then it’s gonna ruin the game as we know it. As I said before you could probably find a reason to disallow 50% of goals ever scored if you forensically examine them all.

The system should only be used to clarify clear and obvious wrongs as we where told it would be E.G to disallow a goal like the one Drogba scored against United when he was 10 yards offside. Or if someone clearly dives for a penalty to overturn it if it was given. The VR ref should not be able to overturn the onfield ref just because he has a different opinion, like what we saw with the Lamela goal yesterday. 3 refs examined it last night and all said the VR ref got it wrong, what the hell is the point in the system if it’s overturning correct calls!

It needs revising big time as it has no place in the game as it stands ATM.
 
I think VAR has a place in the modern game, just not how we saw it implemented last night. If every goal, yellow card or foul is checked by it, then it’s gonna ruin the game as we know it. As I said before you could probably find a reason to disallow 50% of goals ever scored if you forensically examine them all.

The system should only be used to clarify clear and obvious wrongs as we where told it would be E.G to disallow a goal like the one Drogba scored against United when he was 10 yards offside. Or if someone clearly dives for a penalty to overturn it if it was given. The VR ref should not be able to overturn the onfield ref just because he has a different opinion, like what we saw with the Lamela goal yesterday. 3 refs examined it last night and all said the VR ref got it wrong, what the hell is the point in the system if it’s overturning correct calls!

It needs revising big time as it has no place in the game as it stands ATM.
We don't know for sure the ref on the field had a different opinion because VAR dictates if he isn't sure he plays on and lets the video decide. until you get to the situation like goal line where its black and white and not subjective leave it as it is as the cost in the flow of the game does not warrant the benefits in my opinion. If you ony clarify clear wrongs you are just going to have the same arguments that the "Big Clubs" get the decision.
 
I saw an interesting comment elsewhere, that the TV companies are rubbing their hands together at the prospect and could even be promoting the delay between incident and verdict, as it is the perfect slot for an advert. Cricket (and American football) watchers will be familiar with the brief ad inserts, not while decisions are reviewed, but when there is a change of batsmen or a drinks break (in the NFL I imagine its as the various specialist teams change over etc). Given the context of cricket, it's stop-start nature, it's only mildly irritating at worst and most fans accept that it's a necessity if we want to keep five day test matches broadcast live. In football it would be a fucking disaster and the nail in the coffin I reckon
 
I saw an interesting comment elsewhere, that the TV companies are rubbing their hands together at the prospect and could even be promoting the delay between incident and verdict, as it is the perfect slot for an advert. Cricket (and American football) watchers will be familiar with the brief ad inserts, not while decisions are reviewed, but when there is a change of batsmen or a drinks break (in the NFL I imagine its as the various specialist teams change over etc). Given the context of cricket, it's stop-start nature, it's only mildly irritating at worst and most fans accept that it's a necessity if we want to keep five day test matches broadcast live. In football it would be a fucking disaster and the nail in the coffin I reckon
In game adverts happen a fair bit in South America - normally Half / Half.... Joey from friends giving you the thumbs up as you are about to score:dembelewtf:
 
If they insist on bringing VAR into the PL it needs to be heavily regulated. Only appliable in the penalty box and it should only be allowed 3 times per half in total distributed over both teams. At minimum
 
Isn’t it supposed to purely be for obvious errors by the referee. And even then, the VAR guy at Heathrow has to suggest to the ref that there’s a problem, not he other way round?

If so, there’s no way the Lamela goal last night was an obvious error by the ref. Both players pulling at one another and extremely subjective.
 
It will be good in the long run, I just don't see that it should stop the game for as long as last night, the Liverpool game and also the united game.

How quick do Sky / BT show you replays from several angles and slowed down etc. Its usually pretty easy to come to a decision on most incidents, if its not, then don't use VAR.

I don't understand why they don't have an explanation of why VAR is being used at least come up on the big screen so you have something to kill a bit of time and also explain why.
 
So you rather have shocking cheating (Henry vs Ireland) and ridiculous offside goals instead?
By and large, refs tend to get most decisions right. But yes, I'll happily live with dodgy decisions if that's what the game is gonna be like in the future - stop and start, utter confusion, refs with no self-confidence doubting and referring everything upstairs, can't properly cheer a goal because it might get chalked off, etc, etc. FUCK THAT!
 
It's the checking of every single goal that's the problem...just think of the amount of goals like last night's that'll be disallowed thanks to some minor infringement in the build up...unless there's a glaring error there shouldn't be any review at all.
 
Scrap VAR I say. Last night's game was farcical. If both sets of players don't know what's going on, how are the fans supposed to ? Showing incidents on the big screens in Cricket & Rugby work fine but in Football, that could lead to all sorts of problems such as crowd trouble
 
It's the checking of every single goal that's the problem...just think of the amount of goals like last night's that'll be disallowed thanks to some minor infringement in the build up...unless there's a glaring error there shouldn't be any review at all.
This 100%. The first official isn't the first official if everything is constantly reviewed. The perfect case example is Jon Moss' decision in the match against Liverpool, in which lengthy stoppage was taken regardless of VAR for Moss to consult with the linesman.

But if the first official is pausing the game every second minute for VAR to review a foul challenge then the game is a farce.
 
Another thought about that Lamela goal is that maybe the VAR guy must have looked at the Llorente "foul" that much that he may have turned it into a far bigger incident than it actually was...a bit like confirmation bias.
 
Make it like NFL, where the manager can challenge the refs call. 2 each half or something like that. At least that way it wont be used all the time and the gaffer will only want to use it for incidents involving goals, penalty decisions, etc.

Last night with the ref checking almost every decision was painful.
 
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