We need a DOF pronto

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

I get there is a lack of investment. But we need a DOF to help with the rebuild. We simply dont identify, recruit and offload players quick enough.

I dont see how Poch can train and prepare a team and look after signings too. I get there is a comittee, but there needs to be another Arnesen / Baldini figure at the club. We just seem to be unprepared every summer.

Even if Poch leaves, we need to bring in and sell about 12 players over the next 12 months.

 

[Darnswim]

Can you imagine a DOF under Levy???
DOF - I found this great new talent, but he's a bit expensive (£20M). What do you think boss?
Levy - Make an offer of £2M, + £5M obligatory if we qualify in Europe and £3M if our average attendance is more than 40,000 and we sell more than 1000 tons of beer. Oh, I forgot, all this should be spread for around 10 years.
DOF - ...

 

[Steed_Train]

As soon as we get a DOF we’ll be moaning about how the manager doesn’t want any of the signings and we should get rid of them.

Knee jerk solution that won’t change anything

If Levy refuses to buy or sell unless he gets deal of the century we’ll still miss targets and keep hold of dead wood

 

[caduka]

We certainly need one. Not only because of transfers, there's also the youth setup, scouting, etc. All that needs a better structure and planning. It seems to me that our youth is getting worse and worse (hope I am wrong there). Maybe a change of tactics too. There has to be a style of play from the kids upwards. It's how all the red bull cunt teams do it. If there is a change of their coach nothing happens, they just look for one with the same idea of how to play and it's fine. Same if they sell a player, they seem to never get worse. We need to have something like that. And we definitely have to start selling players as soon as they want to leave. Every player can be replaced.

 

[Hrytn]

Well as long as things stay the same, nothing will ever change, a new manager will probably give the club a lift, we might even win a trophy but over the long term things will not change, we will always end up back in this same situation with these owners.

It will take long time to get it right again, we had the chance to win a trophy or two in the last 3 seasons but the manager didn't have the know how and the team didn't have experience or winners.
Levy won't suddenly spend like Mancity, united or chelsea.
The current situation doesn't seem healthy and can't see quick fixes. It will be disastrous, going backward and irreparable in the short term if we miss CL place next season. The new stadium will be a ghost house.

 

[Super Jan Fan]

Although I’m not a fan of the DoF position in general Poch badly needs it.

 

[Spursidol]

I get there is a lack of investment. But we need a DOF to help with the rebuild. We simply dont identify, recruit and offload players quick enough.

I dont see how Poch can train and prepare a team and look after signings too. I get there is a comittee, but there needs to be another Arnesen / Baldini figure at the club. We just seem to be unprepared every summer.

Even if Poch leaves, we need to bring in and sell about 12 players over the next 12 months.

If you look at Poch's first team choices over the last year or two its striking that the majority of players were at Spurs before he arrived - despite Poch being here for 5 years.

If you also look at the players who have been bought over the last 2 or 3 years, which is after Poch changed title to manager and intimated that he was now more in charge of transfers, its apparent that many of the players brought in (like Aurier where Pereyra was available for the same price - so we chose the wriong right back) were not good buys. Poch has a history of poor buys - at Southampton he bought Osvaldo (who he had also managed at Espanyol) and the club had to fire the player with a cost in wages and no transfer fee so costing circa £20m after a 'training ground incident'.

So the sooner that some sort of DoF is in place (and remember Levy liked DoF's but Poch did not) the better.

Reality is no manager has the time to look for new players, and all the other things - so whilst Levy has indulged Poch for a few years, its time to change.

The likes of Klopp has much less say over incomings and it hasn't harmed either the club or manager.

No reason not to allow Poch or any manager a say in players - but he shouldn't be the main man.

 

[Perryman]

Woolwich got a DOF from Dortmund and he promptly went out and bought a few players from Dortmund. Sokratis and Mikitarian ,only success is Aubameyang. You didn’t need to be clever to see he was a good player.
Monchi at Seville was supposedly the best in the world. Went to Roma , failed miserably and now back at Seville.
Steve Walsh at Leicester struck gold with Kante and Mahrez . Following season bought some rubbish...Slimani and Ihenacho failures. Everton snapped him up and he bought a load of number 10’s and has gone.
At times it is more luck than judgement. We bought Dier and Alli for next to nothing. You can’t do that season after season.
Pleat is probably as good a judge of a player as anyone.
No coincidence he recommended Maddison when he was at Coventry. 2-3m . We didn’t bother.

 

[Ossie Wembley]

It’s the Redknapp era all over again, a manager living off a squad more talented than him and constantly mouthing off in the press. The same derision shown to the tournaments that represent our bees chance at success. And abandonment of the DoF model to placate that manager and a talented squad failing to capitalise on that talent with silverware.

 

[RESPECT THE COCK]

What does a director of football do?

Directors of football look after all football operations in clubs, says Les Reed, who, as head of football development, worked with Mauricio Pochettino and Mitchell at Southampton.

He told BBC Sport what the role encompasses:

"That can be recruitment, which takes up most of your time, contract negotiation, player development, the development of all teams from the academy through to the first-team squad, and being responsible for the manager.

"A technical director is slightly different in that you might manage all the support departments but might not be involved in transfers or contract negotiation."

Effectively, they are in place to consider the medium to longer term and maintain a playing philosophy, while the manager or head coach deals with day-to-day operations.

Begiristain told the BBC in September: "I have to work for the next two seasons. You have to understand who wants to move, who wants to stay and what the risk is of losing players.

"You always have to be working on new talent coming. Then you see the project, the philosophy, the way to work, a way to play."

Former Tottenham director of football and Liverpool director of football strategy Damien Comolli has said it gives a "competitive advantage" to clubs because it allows more "objective" decisions to be made.

Why do Man Utd need a director of football?

Manchester United are set to appoint their first director of football but what does the position involve?

www.bbc.com

 

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

We need a DoF. He will find it difficult to work with Levy's restrictions but if he clever he will adapt

Not just to help identify and recruit players but also to quickly find ways out for the players we no longer want or who want to leave. Currently we are shockingly bad at both

We are like a club with chronic constipation and rotten feces we cant expel. No wonder we look ill.

 

[Macch]

Can you imagine a DOF under Levy???
DOF - I found this great new talent, but he's a bit expensive (£20M). What do you think boss?
Levy - Make an offer of £2M, + £5M obligatory if we qualify in Europe and £3M if our average attendance is more than 40,000 and we sell more than 1000 tons of beer. Oh, I forgot, all this should be spread for around 10 years.
DOF - ...

We were better off with francesco baldini than we are now

 

[Hrytn]

Basically, we need new owners imo.

Won't happen.

We have a very good manager but circumstances, achievements without trophy and money has changed him. He has become too big headed and behaving like a demanding wife thinking she is so good and will get what she wants or divorce and go elsewhere.

 

[ElTel]

We need a DoF. He will find it difficult to work with Levy's restrictions but if he clever he will adapt

Not just to help identify and recruit players but also to quickly find ways out for the players we no longer want or who want to leave. Currently we are shockingly bad at both

 

[ArmadilloSackRace]

I get there is a lack of investment. But we need a DOF to help with the rebuild. We simply dont identify, recruit and offload players quick enough.

I dont see how Poch can train and prepare a team and look after signings too. I get there is a comittee, but there needs to be another Arnesen / Baldini figure at the club. We just seem to be unprepared every summer.

Even if Poch leaves, we need to bring in and sell about 12 players over the next 12 months.

It's already clear from comments on the summer that Poch doesn't deal with transfers anyway, and a DoF would still have Levy to answer to. Levy would still have to authorise any spending, you're just introducing a middle man to make everything even more drawn out (if that's humanly possible).

Absolute waste of time, and amazing how short people's memories are. How many times in the last 15 years or so have our failings been pinned on whoever the DoF is? And now we want to go back to that

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

 

[Johnboy40]

Well as long as things stay the same, nothing will ever change, a new manager will probably give the club a lift, we might even win a trophy but over the long term things will not change, we will always end up back in this same situation with these owners.

constantly in the top 4, reaching the champions league final and consistently breaking the clubs transfer record?

dont see whats so bad about that. keep doing that and you will win a couple of things by accident

 

[Macch]

It will take long time to get it right again, we had the chance to win a trophy or two in the last 3 seasons but the manager didn't have the know how and the team didn't have experience or winners.
Levy won't suddenly spend like Mancity, united or chelsea.
The current situation doesn't seem healthy and can't see quick fixes. It will be disastrous, going backward and irreparable in the short term if we miss CL place next season. The new stadium will be a ghost house.

Great post

Everything seems to be unraveling.

We have a chairman who is against spending big
A manager who doesn't know how to win trophies

And a scouting staff.... Wait... Do we even have a scouting staff?

 

[Bazali]

We need a new manager first

 

[TomHotspur]

Although I’m not a fan of the DoF position in general Poch badly needs it.

He had a very highly regarded one in Paul Mitchell, who left because of frustrations with regard to getting players he had identified signed.

I agree it's an option that should be explored, but getting one that's actually any good and is willing to work under our conditions would be tough.