What if the pigeon takes a shit in your mouth like Ashley Young but the ball hits your hand, is there any leniency?
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Rules What is your interpretation of the (current) handball rules?
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What if the pigeon takes a shit in your mouth like Ashley Young but the ball hits your hand, is there any leniency?
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LoZXEbo96Lg
Fucking dogs' breakfast.
Earlier in the season Virgil Van Dickhead gets away with the same thing that Michael Keane got stitched up for and somehow this is acceptable?
FWIW, both were penalties
Earlier in the season Virgil Van Dickhead gets away with the same thing that Michael Keane got stitched up for and somehow this is acceptable?
FWIW, both were penalties
The only fair thing to do is replay both games.
If the ball hits your hand it’s handball. Unless you play for Liverpool
The Van Dijk one deflected onto his arm and going by their rules that's not a penalty.
Football's 'lawmakers' need to own their mistakes.
The handball rule is a big mistake. They tried to improve it and remove any 'human interpretation' from it. They have failed. They have merely replaced one set of interpretations with another.
There was nothing wrong with the concept of 'deliberate' handball, but they have replaced it with a law that punishes players for simply being in possession of an arm. That's a bit stupid.
Like I said, they need to own up to their mistakes and reinstate 'deliberate' handball - it won't be perfect, but at least it will be attempting to punish foul play and not favouring people with no arms, seals and fish.
The handball rule is a big mistake. They tried to improve it and remove any 'human interpretation' from it. They have failed. They have merely replaced one set of interpretations with another.
There was nothing wrong with the concept of 'deliberate' handball, but they have replaced it with a law that punishes players for simply being in possession of an arm. That's a bit stupid.
Like I said, they need to own up to their mistakes and reinstate 'deliberate' handball - it won't be perfect, but at least it will be attempting to punish foul play and not favouring people with no arms, seals and fish.
Football's 'lawmakers' need to own their mistakes.
The handball rule is a big mistake. They tried to improve it and remove any 'human interpretation' from it. They have failed. They have merely replaced one set of interpretations with another.
There was nothing wrong with the concept of 'deliberate' handball, but they have replaced it with a law that punishes players for simply being in possession of an arm. That's a bit stupid.
Like I said, they need to own up to their mistakes and reinstate 'deliberate' handball - it won't be perfect, but at least it will be attempting to punish foul play and not favouring people with no arms, seals and fish.
The problem is that the PGMOL want rules along with human interpretation, that's not going to work - human interpretation is subjective and rules are objective and human beings don't think the same...what deliberate handball is to someone will be accidental to someone else.
You either have a set of rules with determine what is handball and what isn't handball and go with a strict guideline so that everyone knows what it is or you have every ref play by their own book and cast judgement using common sense on decisions, the problem with that is that you're never going to have consistency going from game to game.
Either way we need clear clarification.
That's as clear as you're ever going to get - and it punishes deliberate foul play.
Mistakes will occur, but they occur anyway.
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What does that mean?
Some handballs which are not deliberate should be called pens as well IMO
Fair enough. Which ones?
The shots that are going in, the balls that are played to an attacker where they have a chance of scoring or putting them in a position of advantage.
As much as it is unfair for a defender, it's equally unfair for the attacking team if they are denied a clear goalscoring opportunity from a handball.
My rules for example, Romero against Woolwich was handball because the ball was going in even though it was accidental, whilst the one against Man Utd wasn't because that ball was going over.
Sorry, can't agree with that, because it's penalising an innocent player for not being an amputee.
It's also penalising an attacking team for having a legitimate goal/chance ruled out
Where do you draw the line?
Their own fault. Don’t shoot a ball against someone arm. If the arm moves towards the ball fair enough but the old way of deliberate hand ball was much better.
Let's not start on THAT one!!
Come on be serious, do you really think player have intentions to shooting the ball at someone's arm in that scenario?
If you have the whole goal or a player who is likely to score a goal to aim at then why would you aim for an arm?