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Player Wilson Odobert
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Cunts like Harry Brooks doing podcasts about Odobert despite never mentioning him once before he signed.
All of a sudden he knows all about his elite potential!
All of a sudden he knows all about his elite potential!
I thought this came through on his highlight videos.
Often does a good dribble and shifts away from his man but doesn't fully get away and then the clip cuts off, presumably because he gets tackled.
He doesn't strike me as a winger than leaves defenders for dead over long distances but more the type that will drive into the box and be dangerous in tight spaces, win penalties etc.
Can’t help feeling this Odobert geezer is a little bit old. Cant we find someone younger?
I knew fuck all about this kid, so am offering no opinion whatsoever. No idea if this is genius business or an expensive Nkoudou. To that ends I've watched the YT highlights and looked at some Fbref metrics.
Deuterz
The 1% progressive passes is v Midfielders, which is hardly surprising considering most midfielders jobs is to progressive the ball, he's a forward who's receiving the progressed pass ball in the final third from the midfielders. Compared to other FW's he's in the 71st percentile.
His productivity (goals/assists) is pretty shit, but for a 19yo kid playing for a relegation side, his XA is probably more worth paying attention to and it's in the top 3rd in the league.
His off ball numbers (those limited in nature that are available) suggest he works off the ball.
I've done a comparison of Odobert v Neto v Mudryk
He actually comes out top for XA (Expected Assists) progressive carries, Successful carries, Passes into the box.
If he can convert that into actual assists with better forwards than he had at Burnley, might actually be a decent bit of actual non obvious (presumably data backed?) recruitment.IF...
What I would say is, this is exactly the profile of player - technically proficient, ball carrying take on merchant who can play either side and go either direction we needed desperately, Whether he's the one....fucked if I know...
Deuterz
The 1% progressive passes is v Midfielders, which is hardly surprising considering most midfielders jobs is to progressive the ball, he's a forward who's receiving the progressed pass ball in the final third from the midfielders. Compared to other FW's he's in the 71st percentile.
His productivity (goals/assists) is pretty shit, but for a 19yo kid playing for a relegation side, his XA is probably more worth paying attention to and it's in the top 3rd in the league.
His off ball numbers (those limited in nature that are available) suggest he works off the ball.
I've done a comparison of Odobert v Neto v Mudryk
He actually comes out top for XA (Expected Assists) progressive carries, Successful carries, Passes into the box.
If he can convert that into actual assists with better forwards than he had at Burnley, might actually be a decent bit of actual non obvious (presumably data backed?) recruitment.IF...
What I would say is, this is exactly the profile of player - technically proficient, ball carrying take on merchant who can play either side and go either direction we needed desperately, Whether he's the one....fucked if I know...
Gray ,bergvail ,odobert all good young players but will hardy make a massive impact right now ,we needed up grades on players like ,Emerson ,skipp ,bissouma ,hoijberg , Johnson ,Werner I’ve seen no players right now that have signed that’s going to help the start 11 other then Solanke .we should have been strengthening the first 11 not spending big on the future .
I think we have upgraded on those players mentioned tbh.
No, but Son can!
Odobert/Moore LW/RWThe only downside of this is I think his skillset kind of overlaps with Moore’s, who is our best prospect. Unsure how we’ll handle their minutes. Maybe move Mikey central long term?
Ironically all these young players would be perfect for turncoat Pochettino.
Why can't they be perfect for the actual coach we have?
They look very different players stylisticallyThe only downside of this is I think his skillset kind of overlaps with Moore’s, who is our best prospect. Unsure how we’ll handle their minutes. Maybe move Mikey central long term?
Because we're stupid.
He didn’t exactly trust young players last season, although the young ‘club’ players may have changed his mind in pre season
But he is now demonstrating that he is open and accessible to embracing change which includes changing his mind, especially with Spence. This might piss off Maddison, who just thought he was the man at one stage before he got injured!
And of course Levy knows if you buy (successful) young players, relatively cheaply, it could save spending again on those positions for years.
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They are also on much lower wages. Honestly our wage bill must be about 30% lower than two years ago when we had about 25 senior players and around 15 on 100-200K pw