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Player Xavi Simons

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There's an expectation that comes with being our joint highest earner at 22 and being our record transfer, obviously intensified sightly by losing our key player Maddison in preseason. He's struggling to do the basics at the moment and it's detrimental to the team to keep him in regardless of how he's playing in the hope that it clicks soon. I'm not saying don't give him chances but a cameo off the bench might be exactly what he needs to get a bit of confidence back. Liverpool have already started managing Wirtz.
 
There's an expectation that comes with being our joint highest earner at 22 and being our record transfer, obviously intensified sightly by losing our key player Maddison in preseason. He's struggling to do the basics at the moment and it's detrimental to the team to keep him in regardless of how he's playing in the hope that it clicks soon. I'm not saying don't give him chances but a cameo off the bench might be exactly what he needs to get a bit of confidence back. Liverpool have already started managing Wirtz.

Airfixx seems to think that blokes on 200 grand a week should get pats on the back for contributing absolutely nothing, lest we hurt their feelings.
 
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There's an expectation that comes with being our joint highest earner at 22 and being our record transfer,

Somewhere in all this; yes..... He may well be feeling that anyway too.

I'm just just saying it won't help shining a light on the fact and using it for criticism's sake.

obviously intensified sightly by losing our key player Maddison in preseason.

Quite.... But see above.

He's struggling to do the basics at the moment and it's detrimental to the team to keep him in regardless of how he's playing in the hope that it clicks soon. I'm not saying don't give him chances but a cameo off the bench might be exactly what he needs to get a bit of confidence back. Liverpool have already started managing Wirtz.

He's made 12 apps for us so far.

3 of those were from the bench.
7 of those he's been subbed off
90mins just twice.

....So it's no like he's being unconditionally gifted with 90 every week.
 
Dumb comment, but you do you......



If you wanna throw the towel in on Simons then cool...... But he's not gonna acclimatize to the league by sitting on the bench.

I guess Liverpool should bin off Wirtz too?
We have no option other than to persist with him and hope that he comes good. He was supposed to be our marquee signing of the summer.

The Dippers have generally got it right in the transfer market over the past decade. Most of our big money signings In that period have turned out to be flops. There are genuine grounds for real concern over what we have seen first 10 games or so.
 
We have no option other than to persist with him and hope that he comes good. He was supposed to be our marquee signing of the summer.

You say we have no other option.... Sure we do. We could configure our MF a number of other ways........

The Dippers have generally got it right in the transfer market over the past decade. Most of our big money signings In that period have turned out to be flops. There are genuine grounds for real concern over what we have seen first 10 games or so.

No-one's said it's not fair to have concerns.

However; the only thing that matters is how you handle the player and nurture his growth.
 
Somewhere in all this; yes..... He may well be feeling that anyway too.

I'm just just saying it won't help shining a light on the fact and using it for criticism's sake.
But equally we can't just keep him in every week based on the fee and prior reputation if he's not performing. To use the example of Son which I replied to, he wasn't kept in until he hit top form, he was managed in his first season - on the bench more than he started, often behind Lamela and Chadli.
 
But equally we can't just keep him in every week based on the fee and prior reputation if he's not performing. To use the example of Son which I replied to, he wasn't kept in until he hit top form, he was managed in his first season - on the bench more than he started, often behind Lamela and Chadli.

To your own example; not only was Son required to compete with Lamela & Chadli.... By the time he started to show he belonged (year 2); we were playing 3421 with Dele & Eriksen in behind Kane. He didn't become a regular starter until 17/18 when flipped back to 4231 (year 3).

...............Whereas; Xavi's competition (Madz & Kulu) are long term injury's.

Circumstances will always differ; but in this instance it's even harder to compare.



Son had the luxury of time..... We NEED Xavi up to speed asap. Taking away further game-time only serves to slow that process.

He's not gonna acclimatise to the heavy rigour of the EPL in training.
 
Finding new ways to pile pressure on Xavi isn't gonna help, is it?
Son had the luxury of time..... We NEED Xavi up to speed asap.
No pressure eh
...............Whereas; Xavi's competition (Madz & Kulu) are long term injury's.
Don't really agree that that's his only competition at the moment based on how he's performing. Sarr was in great form in that position before being sidelined for him. Odobert and Tel are competing with him on the left and are in a similar position where they need opportunities to try to adjust to this level.
 
Has shown glimpses of his quality, Leeds especially comes to mind and can do things on the ball that no one else can since I’ve been watching spurs. Been no worse than bergval imo, he can do no wrong on here.
 
felt he was better at newcastle, passing and moving with the ball, still too weak from any challenge ( that is not about size you can be small but still be strong)
needs to show a lot more,but think we also need to think about who hiforward playmates are ( Richy, Tel, ) think with Johnson he could beable to work with ( putting the ball intogoalscoring positions)
 
Has shown glimpses of his quality, Leeds especially comes to mind and can do things on the ball that no one else can since I’ve been watching spurs. Been no worse than bergval imo, he can do no wrong on here.
Agree- he'll be fine with time and patience from the fans. He's a young kid probably a bit in over his head, but with some resolve and hard work he'll settle here finely. God forbid anybody thinks back to the first 10 games Modric, Bale or Kane had for us... it wasn't always glittering headlines for them either!
 
It’s absolutely fair to be concerned about him, I definitely am.

But Bundesliga to PL is huge jump. Even Son had a lame first season but then he exploded. Let’s hope Xavi follows a similar path, he’s certainly working hard which is the first step.
 
I guess my struggle is, I don’t really know what he is.

He has limited passing range.

He isn’t able to take on his man 1 vs 1.

He has no speed. Or strength.

From the clips I’ve seen at Leipzig and PSV, he looks like he can pop up with a goal or two, so is he more of a second striker than a CAM? Do we need to get him further forward linking up with a classic 9? Will Solanke be the piece to the puzzle that helps Simons?

I dunno. Maybe I’m grasping.

I’m just so confused by him.
 
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