You do realise that Spurs aren't actually going to make any of us DOF don't you?
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You do realise that Spurs aren't actually going to make any of us DOF don't you?
Levy appoints you DOF, you've got 100m plus whatever you can raise in sales to spend in the summer.
Here is a list of valuations for our players that we must all stick to (I've started with transfermarket.com valuations and adjusted where I think reasonable - nearly all of them downwards):
The most players you can sell is 10
Lets see what your first 11 and 22 look like after the window.
Here is a list of valuations for our players that we must all stick to (I've started with transfermarket.com valuations and adjusted where I think reasonable - nearly all of them downwards):
| GK | Defenders | Midfielders | AM/FWD |
|---|---|---|---|
Lloris 18m | Sanchez 35m | Skipp 15m | Sessegnon 25m |
| Gazzaniga 5m | Alderwiereld 15m | Ndombele 50m | Alli 55m |
| Vorm 0m | Vertonghen 10m | Lo Celso 50m | Son 60m |
| Foyth 15m | Winks 40m | Bergwijn 30m | |
| Tanganga 10m | Sissoko 15m | Moura 25m | |
| Davies 15m | Lamela 15m | ||
| Aurier 15m | Kane 150m | ||
| KWP 10m | |||
| Dier 25m | |||
The most players you can sell is 10
Lets see what your first 11 and 22 look like after the window.
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OK, can someoneSpursidol ? remind me how the HG rule works, so I can amend accordingly?
Only allowed one small plant for personal use.... Something like that anyway.
Here's mine.
I'm letting Vorm and Vertonghen go on a free.
Non HG. HG Club Trained/HG
I'm letting Vorm and Vertonghen go on a free.
| SELL | BUY |
|---|---|
| Gazzaniga 5 | Onana 45 |
| Alderweireld 15 | Upamecano 50 |
| Foyth 15 | Zagadou 35 |
| Moura 25 | Camavinga 45 |
| Sissoko 15 | Hakimi 60 |
| Winks 40 | Ballo-Toure 10 |
| Lamela 15 | Fekir 40 |
| Alli 55 | Eze 10 |
| Aurier 15 | Sangare 15 |
| Dier 25 | M Lopez 15 |
| TOTAL 225 + 100 = 325 | Total 325 |
SquadNon HG. HG Club Trained/HG
| GK | DEF | MID | AM/FW |
|---|---|---|---|
| Onana | Hakimi | Ndombele | Kane |
| Lloris | KWP | Lo Celso | Fekir |
| Austin | Ballo-Toure | Camavinga | Son |
| Cirkin | Sangare | Bergwijn | |
| Upamecano | Skipp | Eze | |
| Zagadou | Lopez | Sessegnon | |
| Sanchez | |||
| Tanganga | |||
| Davies |
Onana
Hakimi-------Upamecano------------Zagadou---------Ballo-Toure
(KWP)---------(Sanchez)-----------(Tanganga)---------(Cirkin)
Ndombele----------Camavinga-----------Lo Celso
(Sangare)------------(Skipp)----------(Lopez)
Son------------Kane-----------Fekir
(Bergwijn)-------(Fekir)--------(Eze)-----(Sess)
Hakimi-------Upamecano------------Zagadou---------Ballo-Toure
(KWP)---------(Sanchez)-----------(Tanganga)---------(Cirkin)
Ndombele----------Camavinga-----------Lo Celso
(Sangare)------------(Skipp)----------(Lopez)
Son------------Kane-----------Fekir
(Bergwijn)-------(Fekir)--------(Eze)-----(Sess)
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You took 10M off Sissoko but left Winks at 40M?
hehe
hehe
You do realize that all Football Clubs are switching to survival mode atm, right ?
And that the transfer market will be an extremely different one, whenever it opens ?
Trying to shift an extremely well paid workforce which is generating no cash flow for the foreseeable future is unlikely to generate much in terms of transfer fees. And as for Clubs offering DOFs war chests of 100M from their precious liquidity reserve, dream on.
And that the transfer market will be an extremely different one, whenever it opens ?
Trying to shift an extremely well paid workforce which is generating no cash flow for the foreseeable future is unlikely to generate much in terms of transfer fees. And as for Clubs offering DOFs war chests of 100M from their precious liquidity reserve, dream on.
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Following on from the discussion with
reachingforthestars
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Having watched Todibo's home debut live, and then 3/4 of his subsequent few games for Toulouse, I posted a little heads up in the Players Worth Keeping an Eye On thread in Sep 2018, saying he has some good qualities.
I think they subsequently stopped picking him because he'd refused to sign a contract with because he'd got wind of Barca sniffing, they were going to wait until summer 2019 to bring in in for free, but decided to pay 1m and bring him in January.
After making 2 appearances in La Liga back end of 18/19, he made 2 more the front end of 19/20 before going to Schalke on loan in January 2020. Here's the thing, apparently it's a loan with a 25+5m buy out clause.
I decided to watch a couple of games to see how he's looking after playing so little football (4 league games in 2019). Got to say, from the two games I've watched so far, there's a lot to like.
He's got all the physical/athletic attributes you want for a CB. Tall, strong, pretty quick, and mobile upper and lower body. He generally does well in physical duels and tussles.
Changes direction pretty well. He's aggressive and tenacious.
He seems to read the game pretty well, he looks around to check what's going on defensively and repositions. I'm not sure, I need to watch some more games, but maybe he can lose concentration on the odd occasion between phases of play, but he is only 20yo and I'm not even sure it's endemic, or just situational and due to inexperience.
Defensively what I like most is he's proactive not just reactive in his defending. He sees what's happening and uses his speed, aggression and dexterity to press up and win the ball, cut moves/breaks off early and he has the common sense to take the free kick if it means stopping a break, knowing he can get away with this in advanced areas of the pitch. He's got a brain.
But where this boy really fucking excels is with the ball. I can't remember seeing too many CB's - especially aged 20 having their first handful of games - be this technically adept and confident on the ball.
I've seen him come unstuck a couple of times, he got a bit bullied in one passage of play by Lukaku in the Inter v Barca game, but Lukaku can be a bit of monster and Todibo is only 20yo and has only played about 20 league games in France, Spain, Germany spread over two seasons.
I think for 25+5m he's an absolute fucking steal - 40m for Sanxhez, 80m McGuire, - there's a bit of the VVD about him and at 20yo has bags of development and improvement in him.
This first bunch of clips shows him up against Martinez/Inter who's a real fucking livewire, and despite him making life difficult, Todibo generally handles him, doesn't really lose any of the duels, using a combination of physicality and tenacity/dexterity to come on largely on top (even though one of them subsequently leads to a Likaku scoring, it wasn't down to Todibo who wins his duel).
Also bare in mind this is a 20yo playing the biggest game of his young career (and about his 15th career game).
This one he deals with Lukaku
More examples of Todibo's combination of anticipation, aggression and strength to win duels:
These clips show him reading the play and using his speed and tenacity to squeeze up and suffocate breaks before they happen. I really like a CB who can do this without fear of getting spun. Players like Dier and Alderweireld just can't do this, for fear of being spun and left for dead.
And these are some of my favourites, showing his composure and technical ability when in possession. We have players playing as CM's over the last three years that don't have this, let alone CB's. There are very few CB's around this comfortable on the ball, and it's not just that he's technically comfortable, he sprints away from pressing oppo's and then plays good vertical passes. Composure, pace and passing under pressure. Imagine Sanchez doing this (or any of our current bunch of CB's)
This was the only real negative moment I could find. He gets out muscled by Lukaku. Not great, but I've seen others bullied by Lukaku, and again, he is still 20yo and learning. At 20yo VVD was playing for Gronigan and then Celtic. This is a 20yo playing away at Inter.
Here's some bonus clips from him paying for Schalke away at Cologne. Showing many of the same types of traits, plus a long raking diagonal that goes straight to feet, which we didn't see against Inter:
Bottom line, I think this kid is well worth a punt at 30-40m. I'd be all over this if Schalke either choose not to or even of they do, offer them a chance to make a quick 15m. Even if the kid turns out not to be the next greatest thing, he's got enough about him to be a very good CB (or even a DM) and some unique qualities. A rare combo of athletic/Physical and cerebral/technical. I can see why he found his way onto Barca's radar before he'd even kicked a ball, I'm just not sure why they are prepared to offload him already, although they will make a quick 24m? I need to watch some more games where he's under more pressure, and will update if I find more weaknesses.
reachingforthestars
:Having watched Todibo's home debut live, and then 3/4 of his subsequent few games for Toulouse, I posted a little heads up in the Players Worth Keeping an Eye On thread in Sep 2018, saying he has some good qualities.
I think they subsequently stopped picking him because he'd refused to sign a contract with because he'd got wind of Barca sniffing, they were going to wait until summer 2019 to bring in in for free, but decided to pay 1m and bring him in January.
After making 2 appearances in La Liga back end of 18/19, he made 2 more the front end of 19/20 before going to Schalke on loan in January 2020. Here's the thing, apparently it's a loan with a 25+5m buy out clause.
I decided to watch a couple of games to see how he's looking after playing so little football (4 league games in 2019). Got to say, from the two games I've watched so far, there's a lot to like.
He's got all the physical/athletic attributes you want for a CB. Tall, strong, pretty quick, and mobile upper and lower body. He generally does well in physical duels and tussles.
Changes direction pretty well. He's aggressive and tenacious.
He seems to read the game pretty well, he looks around to check what's going on defensively and repositions. I'm not sure, I need to watch some more games, but maybe he can lose concentration on the odd occasion between phases of play, but he is only 20yo and I'm not even sure it's endemic, or just situational and due to inexperience.
Defensively what I like most is he's proactive not just reactive in his defending. He sees what's happening and uses his speed, aggression and dexterity to press up and win the ball, cut moves/breaks off early and he has the common sense to take the free kick if it means stopping a break, knowing he can get away with this in advanced areas of the pitch. He's got a brain.
But where this boy really fucking excels is with the ball. I can't remember seeing too many CB's - especially aged 20 having their first handful of games - be this technically adept and confident on the ball.
I've seen him come unstuck a couple of times, he got a bit bullied in one passage of play by Lukaku in the Inter v Barca game, but Lukaku can be a bit of monster and Todibo is only 20yo and has only played about 20 league games in France, Spain, Germany spread over two seasons.
I think for 25+5m he's an absolute fucking steal - 40m for Sanxhez, 80m McGuire, - there's a bit of the VVD about him and at 20yo has bags of development and improvement in him.
This first bunch of clips shows him up against Martinez/Inter who's a real fucking livewire, and despite him making life difficult, Todibo generally handles him, doesn't really lose any of the duels, using a combination of physicality and tenacity/dexterity to come on largely on top (even though one of them subsequently leads to a Likaku scoring, it wasn't down to Todibo who wins his duel).
Also bare in mind this is a 20yo playing the biggest game of his young career (and about his 15th career game).
This one he deals with Lukaku
More examples of Todibo's combination of anticipation, aggression and strength to win duels:
These clips show him reading the play and using his speed and tenacity to squeeze up and suffocate breaks before they happen. I really like a CB who can do this without fear of getting spun. Players like Dier and Alderweireld just can't do this, for fear of being spun and left for dead.
And these are some of my favourites, showing his composure and technical ability when in possession. We have players playing as CM's over the last three years that don't have this, let alone CB's. There are very few CB's around this comfortable on the ball, and it's not just that he's technically comfortable, he sprints away from pressing oppo's and then plays good vertical passes. Composure, pace and passing under pressure. Imagine Sanchez doing this (or any of our current bunch of CB's)
This was the only real negative moment I could find. He gets out muscled by Lukaku. Not great, but I've seen others bullied by Lukaku, and again, he is still 20yo and learning. At 20yo VVD was playing for Gronigan and then Celtic. This is a 20yo playing away at Inter.
Here's some bonus clips from him paying for Schalke away at Cologne. Showing many of the same types of traits, plus a long raking diagonal that goes straight to feet, which we didn't see against Inter:
Bottom line, I think this kid is well worth a punt at 30-40m. I'd be all over this if Schalke either choose not to or even of they do, offer them a chance to make a quick 15m. Even if the kid turns out not to be the next greatest thing, he's got enough about him to be a very good CB (or even a DM) and some unique qualities. A rare combo of athletic/Physical and cerebral/technical. I can see why he found his way onto Barca's radar before he'd even kicked a ball, I'm just not sure why they are prepared to offload him already, although they will make a quick 24m? I need to watch some more games where he's under more pressure, and will update if I find more weaknesses.
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Two things, how is Brandt in your team when you haven't purchased him...unless that is an academy kid. Is that an academy kid? And secondly...do the purchases need to be 'realistic' or just anyone we want and can afford by transfermarkt prices? Oops, and thirdly, you say only 10 but Jan is OOC in summer and maybe shouldn't count towards 10...and HG status seems a problems for you.
Even my FIFA career mode is more realistic than some of you
We couldn't anticipate how shit you are at FIFA
:mourbringit:
I'll play your game of ins 'n outs
Sell:
Hugo 18
Gazza 5
Toby 15
KWP 10
Davies 15
Dier 25
Sissoko 15
Dele 55
Lamela 15
Lucas 25
I'd just let Jan and Vorm leave
198 + 100 = 298
Buy:
Myron Boadu 20
Todd Cantwell 22
Calvin Stengs 20
Teun Koopmeiners 16
Kalvin Phillips 15
Dwight McNeil 20
Caglar Söyüncü 40
Ozan Kabak 32
Jean-Clair Todibo 10
James Justin 4
Dean Henderson 18
Illan Meslier 5
222
Since that leaves me with some spare money and Transfermarkt haven't got the 'Inflated-british-prices' I'll just add some extra talent for a rainy day
Jude Bellingham 12
Eberechi Eze 10
Omar richards 1
Michael Olise 0,9
Neco Williams ?
Nohan Kenneh ?
Coniah Boyce-Clarke ?
Luke Jonathan Thomas ?
245,9 (or ???)
I'll only set up in a 4-3-3
That does leave some work for the coaching staff to make that LB work, and make sure Skipp is ready to be a 2nd choice.
Send Parrott, Foyth and Tanganga out on loan. I wouldn't sell Foyth until I had seen him get regular starts
Sell:
Hugo 18
Gazza 5
Toby 15
KWP 10
Davies 15
Dier 25
Sissoko 15
Dele 55
Lamela 15
Lucas 25
I'd just let Jan and Vorm leave
198 + 100 = 298
Buy:
Myron Boadu 20
Todd Cantwell 22
Calvin Stengs 20
Teun Koopmeiners 16
Kalvin Phillips 15
Dwight McNeil 20
Caglar Söyüncü 40
Ozan Kabak 32
Jean-Clair Todibo 10
James Justin 4
Dean Henderson 18
Illan Meslier 5
222
Since that leaves me with some spare money and Transfermarkt haven't got the 'Inflated-british-prices' I'll just add some extra talent for a rainy day
Jude Bellingham 12
Eberechi Eze 10
Omar richards 1
Michael Olise 0,9
Neco Williams ?
Nohan Kenneh ?
Coniah Boyce-Clarke ?
Luke Jonathan Thomas ?
245,9 (or ???)
I'll only set up in a 4-3-3
Kane
(Boadu)
Cantwell -------------------------------------------------- Son
(Bergwijn) ------------------------------------------------- (Stengs)
Koopmeiners ----- Phillips ------ Lo Celso
(Winks) ------ (Skipp) ------ (Ndombele)
McNeil ------- Söyüncü ------- Sanchez ------- Justin
(Sessegnon) ------ (Todibo) ------ (Kabak) ------ (Aurier)
Henderson
(Meslier)
(Boadu)
Cantwell -------------------------------------------------- Son
(Bergwijn) ------------------------------------------------- (Stengs)
Koopmeiners ----- Phillips ------ Lo Celso
(Winks) ------ (Skipp) ------ (Ndombele)
McNeil ------- Söyüncü ------- Sanchez ------- Justin
(Sessegnon) ------ (Todibo) ------ (Kabak) ------ (Aurier)
Henderson
(Meslier)
That does leave some work for the coaching staff to make that LB work, and make sure Skipp is ready to be a 2nd choice.
Send Parrott, Foyth and Tanganga out on loan. I wouldn't sell Foyth until I had seen him get regular starts
Yeah, I don't see Barca letting him go any time soon. They'll sell a broken Umtiti to so sucker (Levy/Mourinho)
I would only want the two CBs, Ozan Kabak and Jean-Claire Todibo (Barca owned), at Spurs. At 19 and 20 years of age they'll come good.
Another one who could come close is CM, Suat Serdar. I do like him but at the same time it feels like he's missing something. Maybe a bit of physique.
They've got three other decent midfielders in Amine Harit, Omar Mascarell and Weston McKennie.
Salif Sane (CB) is funny to watch, cos like Yerry Mina he's got some magnet in his forehead, which makes him a threat on attacking set-pieces.
Last one I'll mention is reliable LB, Bastian Oczipka. He can whack in a cross. 31 years of age he's probably seen his best days.
Here's the 2019-20 current squad and the home grown rules explained(? 
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)| EPL | ECL | ||
| NON-HOME GROWN (15) | NON-HOME GROWN (17) | ||
| 1 | LLORIS | LLORIS | 1 |
| 2 | GAZZANIGA | GAZZANIGA | 2 |
| 3 | VORM | VORM | 3 |
| 4 | AURIER | AURIER | 4 |
| 5 | ALDERWEIRELD | ALDERWEIRELD | 5 |
| 6 | VERTONGHEN | VERTONGHEN | 6 |
| 7 | SANCHEZ | SANCHEZ | 7 |
| 8 | DIER | DIER | 8 |
| 9 | SISSOKO | SISSOKO | 9 |
| 10 | NDOMBELE | NDOMBELE | 10 |
| 11 | LAMELA | LAMELA | 11 |
| 12 | LO CELSO | LO CELSO | 12 |
| 13 | BERGWIJN | BERGWIJN | 13 |
| 14 | MOURA | MOURA | 14 |
| 15 | SON | SON | 15 |
| GEDSON | 16 | ||
| DAVIES | 17 | ||
| HOME GROWN (HG) | HOMEGROWN (HG) | ||
| ASSOCIATION (2) | |||
| 1 | ALLI | ALLI | 1 |
| 2 | DAVIES | ||
| SESSEGNON | 2 | ||
| CLUB TRAINED (2) | |||
| 3 | WINKS | WINKS | 1 |
| 4 | KANE | KANE | 2 |
| SQUAD TOTAL: 19 | SQUAD TOTAL: 21 | ||
| EPL | ECL | ||
| SQUAD OF 25 | SQUAD OF 25 | ||
| MAX 17 NON-HG | MAX 17 NON-HG | ||
| IF 17 NON-HG | IF 17 NON-HG | ||
| MAX 8 HG | MAX 8 HG | ||
| (MAX 4 ASSOCIATION) | |||
| U 21 ON 1ST JAN IN YEAR SEASON STARTS | |||
| EPL | ECL | ||
| (UNDER 21) | LIST B (UNDER 21) | ||
| No restrictions | With Spurs 2 years | ||
| "B" List | |||
| WHITEMAN Alfie | |||
| FOYTH Juan | |||
| TANGANGA Japhet | |||
| Walcott, Malachi | |||
| Cirkin, Dennis | |||
| SKIPP Oliver | |||
| Bowden, Jamie | |||
| White, Harvey | |||
| Bennett, J’Neil | |||
| Parrott, Troy |
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Following on from the discussion with
Having watched Todibo's home debut live, and then 3/4 of his subsequent few games for Toulouse, I posted a little heads up in the Players Worth Keeping an Eye On thread in Sep 2018, saying he has some good qualities.
I think they subsequently stopped picking him because he'd refused to sign a contract with because he'd got wind of Barca sniffing, they were going to wait until summer 2019 to bring in in for free, but decided to pay 1m and bring him in January.
After making 2 appearances in La Liga back end of 18/19, he made 2 more the front end of 19/20 before going to Schalke on loan in January 2020. Here's the thing, apparently it's a loan with a 25+5m buy out clause.
I decided to watch a couple of games to see how he's looking after playing so little football (4 league games in 2019). Got to say, from the two games I've watched so far, there's a lot to like.
He's got all the physical/athletic attributes you want for a CB. Tall, strong, pretty quick, and mobile upper and lower body. He generally does well in physical duels and tussles.
Changes direction pretty well. He's aggressive and tenacious.
He seems to read the game pretty well, he looks around to check what's going on defensively and repositions. I'm not sure, I need to watch some more games, but maybe he can lose concentration on the odd occasion between phases of play, but he is only 20yo and I'm not even sure it's endemic, or just situational and due to inexperience.
Defensively what I like most is he's proactive not just reactive in his defending. He sees what's happening and uses his speed, aggression and dexterity to press up and win the ball, cut moves/breaks off early and he has the common sense to take the free kick if it means stopping a break, knowing he can get away with this in advanced areas of the pitch. He's got a brain.
But where this boy really fucking excels is with the ball. I can't remember seeing too many CB's - especially aged 20 having their first handful of games - be this technically adept and confident on the ball.
I've seen him come unstuck a couple of times, he got a bit bullied in one passage of play by Lukaku in the Inter v Barca game, but Lukaku can be a bit of monster and Todibo is only 20yo and has only played about 20 league games in France, Spain, Germany spread over two seasons.
I think for 25+5m he's an absolute fucking steal - 40m for Sanxhez, 80m McGuire, - there's a bit of the VVD about him and at 20yo has bags of development and improvement in him.
This first bunch of clips shows him up against Martinez/Inter who's a real fucking livewire, and despite him making life difficult, Todibo generally handles him, doesn't really lose any of the duels, using a combination of physicality and tenacity/dexterity to come on largely on top (even though one of them subsequently leads to a Likaku scoring, it wasn't down to Todibo who wins his duel).
Also bare in mind this is a 20yo playing the biggest game of his young career (and about his 15th career game).
This one he deals with Lukaku
More examples of Todibo's combination of anticipation, aggression and strength to win duels:
These clips show him reading the play and using his speed and tenacity to squeeze up and suffocate breaks before they happen. I really like a CB who can do this without fear of getting spun. Players like Dier and Alderweireld just can't do this, for fear of being spun and left for dead.
And these are some of my favourites, showing his composure and technical ability when in possession. We have players playing as CM's over the last three years that don't have this, let alone CB's. There are very few CB's around this comfortable on the ball, and it's not just that he's technically comfortable, he sprints away from pressing oppo's and then plays good vertical passes. Composure, pace and passing under pressure. Imagine Sanchez doing this (or any of our current bunch of CB's)
This was the only real negative moment I could find. He gets out muscled by Lukaku. Not great, but I've seen others bullied by Lukaku, and again, he is still 20yo and learning. At 20yo VVD was playing for Gronigan and then Celtic. This is a 20yo playing away at Inter.
Here's some bonus clips from him paying for Schalke away at Cologne. Showing many of the same types of traits, plus a long raking diagonal that goes straight to feet, which we didn't see against Inter:
Bottom line, I think this kid is well worth a punt at 30-40m. I'd be all over this if Schalke either choose not to or even of they do, offer them a chance to make a quick 15m. Even if the kid turns out not to be the next greatest thing, he's got enough about him to be a very good CB and some unique qualities. A rare combo of athletic/Physical and cerebral/technical. I can see why he found his way onto Barca's dada before he'd even kicked a ball, I'm just not sure why they are prepared to offload him already, although they will make a quick 24m? I need to watch some more games where he's under more pressure, and will update if I find more weaknesses.
Nice job
I think I watched the Inter game at the time, and I weren't really blown away. Doesn't matter, I still believe he'll become a star. The VVD comparison is a good one looking at their stature and genes. Van Dijk at Celtic was a good player, but he was still doing his best Foyth impression, stepping up in challenges misreading them. At the time I was surprised Southampton got the deal and no bigger team went in for him.
So with
RESPECT THE COCK
's question about the Kabak appeal, it's no so much about what the guys aren't doing, but more a question about what they are already capable of doing at such a young age. I'll back Todibo because of his agility (I guess that's racist - reversed). If he can work on his leadership, I can't see why he couldn't become every bit as good as Van Dijk.Now you've done such good work here, I'll just dump another name you can keep an eye out for and I'll go back and complete Netflix for a 2nd time.
Matchoi Djaló from Paços de Ferreira. 16 years old so he's only been handed the odd minutes a couple of times, and that was as a winger. He's doing some nice twisting and turning so might be another Modric/Frenkie de Jong in disguise. I don't think Paços de Ferreira could ask of too much for a player, so I wouldn't mind the gamble. But I guess Brexit means no player can join a British side until turning 18? Wow, that would even mean that Camavinga couldn't be signed until next December
who is this todd guy?
You would have to change the narrative as well. ATM every young English footballer looks at Jadon Sancho like he's some sort of saviour. Over the last year we've lost some of our big prospects: Luis Binks, Noni Madueke and Paris Maghoma (though lower league for the latter). Sell the idea that loan moves are still viable. Worked for Kane, Rose and Walker
I've been an advocate of us using the Chelsea model for many years. Forming alliances with a handful of European clubs and shipping players out wholesale. People mocked it, but it was a much better approach for actually developing young footballers both technically, tactically (as continental football and coaching is generally still endemically more conducive and tolerant to development of young players), in the footballing sense of getting proper first team experience and it builds character too, having to learn a new language, culture, step outside their comfort zone etc.
Chelsea used to held up as bad example of youth development - but they pay young players better than anyone, they get good coaching, and get them a much better quality of playing experience than most other academies - so that even if they don't make it with Chelsea, they get exposure, experience, add value to their sale price if deemed not good enough for Chelsea.
I always maintained it was easy to understand why kids would choose their academy, even if they could see an easy pathway.