I didn't say that - read it again. Not having wont with THAT quality of players is a failure
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So by your own admission, our board have presented the management with the best team we’ve had in forty years, yet we’ve still failed. What else could the board have done? Given us our very very bestest best team since the eighties?
Failures have been on the pitch mainly, and off the pitch to a much lesser extent. If Woolwich and ManU have won trophies with worse teams, surely this is a management, coaching and playing problem?
Yes of course management is accountable. But I also think we were one quality player away from that winning formula
Are you even remotely claiming we have had the best set off players in the EPL at any time in the last twenty years? if so in which years? .... if you think "THAT quality of players" must win then what about those clubs with better quality players - Woolwich, Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Utd all have had better for years ....
Even today we are maybe only third and that's a push ...
You want it both ways - the owners gave us "THAT quality of players" but because we didn't win anything that's on the owners? does that argument even make sense?
I agree with
ArcspacE
both under Redknapp and Poch we looked one maybe two players away from winning something big, a nearly complete team but not quite there.As for Woolwich’s title winners they had an outstanding team and Fergie United where brilliant except for his very last team that was starved of cash with Van Persie up top, that was a Fergie miracle for sure.
I sad they were better than some of the teams who won multiple trophies at the same time. Our league finishing position proves that further.
If you think our 2015-17 team wasn't good enough to win even the EL of FA Cup - you're beyond delusional. Wenger won it twice on his last legs with utter clowns in his team.
Invested in it like Liverpool did at the opportune moment and who knows what could have happened, the ships now sailed for us and it's all too little too late
Agreed - when Poch said we need to be brave Levy put his phone on Silent
When Klopp said they need to be brave - Board wrote him a blank cheque to sign the best CB and Keeper available
You can't polish a turd although sure as hell Poch tried his best at times - i.e. Trippier
They didn't write a blank cheque, they sold Coutinho for £120m to pay for those two signings.
Who? ..... you can't just throw that out there and not back it up ....
"better than some of the teams who won multiple trophies at the same time"
Wenger won it twice on his last legs with utter clowns in his team - whilst driving Woolwich out of the top four great plan ... and as much as we hate Woolwich the last trophy they won was three years ago and it was only that season when we finally caught up with them ...
I said already - Woolwich and Utd during that same time period. We were better than them by miles.
True but they could have pocketed the money for their shareholders or new stand, etc
Or given him half only because he hadn't won shit by then, etc.
Guess I'm just disappointed how it all went wrong with Poch - we had such a good team
Liverpool invested ZERO this year after Klippity said he had a great squad ... now who said exactly that in 2018? hindsight as ever is great, but just spending money doesn't guarantee success ask West Ham and Everton how that's working out ...
There is no argument from me we should have spent money that summer, but as Liverpool are proving this season spending nothing could have been the correct decision, in hindsight it just wasn't.
What same period? you're now just making up insane nonsense ... Woolwich finished above us feck knows how many years in a row up until 2016 no question they were better ... and since then they've won nothing at all ....
Man Utd spent 391m on transfers to win their last two trophies and had a squad valued at nearly double ours ... how on earth were we better?
We were regressing on the pitch long before that 2018 window mate we should have gone big in 16 and 17 windows IMO although the situation now would be a lot better had we invested big in 2018 instead of 19
Can you read - 2015 - 2017
In hindsight I agree, and of course we know now that we were carrying a lot of deadwood, but Poch was the manager and he decided to keep what he had. He could have sold Eriksen for 150m (like Klippity did with Coutinho) but he decided not to ...
Remember Liverpool net spent just 10m 16/17/18 .... we spent net 30m in fact in the last five years we've spent almost exactly the same net on players as they have Dippers 119.75m Spurs 120.47m
It was never just the money that mattered ir was always what you did with it .... look at those cunts down the road they spent 297m net only to go backwards, and the Pikeys spent 179m net and are going down (please) and those twats in Manchester spent 538m and 668m respectively how's that working out?
Poch did a more than decent job on a mid-table budget, he just couldn't make the really tough calls that would have taken him over the top.
If Man U and Woolwich won trophies with far “inferior” teams than Spurs as you say, then surely that’s more our managers fault than our chairman’s fault, right?
